Blake Wheeler blaming the youth of the team for the 100th time is so ridiculous.

Blake, thank you being a great Jet for a long time and being captain of this team, but it is now abundantly clear you are not capable of seeing the flaws and collapse of your own game. Either decide to accept a new role on this team ( third line, no more PP ) and be a Captain who supports and builds up the youth not tears them down or lift your no move trade and allow us to facilitate a move.
- Ross77

The full health, Lowry-ideal lineup would have exactly 2 players under peak age. And they’re both 23. Which is a year away.

if there is a GM out there that has called about Stanley, sell sell sell
- Ross77

Stanley is great and cheap! I do think with better coaching, he can become the anchor of our defensive corps.

Thats 6 losses in a row, this goalie for the Canucks, he's what their 4th string goalie?!.. And many though the Jets were this high powered offensive team that could get scoring from all four lines.. 🤣
- JetFuel

Does everyone notice that so many of the opposing goalies, including last nights AHL goalie, have their "career game performance" against the Jets?

This is a re-occurring theme that has been replaying itself over and over again this year. If I had time, I would break down this years individual losses to show the opposing goalie's "lights out, career game save % performance" that beat the Jets. As did last nights AHL goalie.

Who is up next? Flyers, time for their goalie, who ever it may be, to have another career game!!

Who ever is preaching the Jets just need minor tweaks or adjustments have lost their mind.

The minute the Jets announced Lowry as the coach for remainder of the year, the season and playoffs were lost.

Nothing has changed with this team.

The over-the-top suspension to schief and the major fallout (attacks on his family) afterwards has affected schief. He is not even close to the potential he can be as a player. I hope I’m wrong but that suspension will probably be a turning point in his career.

It has been a miserable year for the team and we can all write it off.

Trotz would be a good fit with this team after he is done in Long Island this season.

Chevy will need to move some pieces within a month. Hopefully they are the right ones and the return is considerable.

On to 2022-23.

Who ever is preaching the Jets just need minor tweaks or adjustments have lost their mind.
- Old Flopper

They need mostly minor tweaks and adjustments, some humility to reassess some strategies that aren’t working and renewed commitment to some hard unglamorous work around the nets.

My wife and kids tell me often that I have lost my mind, 😂

Coaching staff has to go (wholesale).

Coaching staff has to go (wholesale).
- bennythehat

I see in the stats that our cement head coach didn't even pull Hellybucyk and give some ice time to our backup and maybe also give our #1 a well-needed rest. Yes, get rid of the complete coaching staff !

How motivating is it for our backup to watch Helly play 15 games in a row including back-back games , sit there looking at the coach and still not get thrown in for 15-20 minutes. Just brutal !

I see in the stats that our cement head coach didn't even pull Hellybucyk and give some ice time to our backup and maybe also give our #1 a well-needed rest. Yes, get rid of the complete coaching staff !

How motivating is it for our backup to watch Helly play 15 games in a row including back-back games , sit there looking at the coach and still not get thrown in for 15-20 minutes. Just brutal !
- jetsnation

Exactly. Berdin backed up for 7 games during the covid stint. Why not a game or a at least a period or, at least Comrie in for a break for the #1 G.

Although the team is sucking big time, I like watching the new prospects like Kovecevic, Samberg, Heinola etc and now Chislom again getting another call, play their first NHL games.

Stanley is great and cheap! I do think with better coaching, he can become the anchor of our defensive corps.
- TheUltimateJet

Yes I know there are those out there who want to have no part of Stanley going forward. If the Jets trade Stanley I think they will be sorry, sorry, sorry!

As everyone knows he is big, tough physical and a guy who can protect the midgets on the Jets b-line. Every team need this. Qualities you can't teach. Has a very good shot and is only going to get better and projects as a 4-5 d-man IMO.

Certainly at times he has made mistakes. With the Jets defensive system and lack of back-checking by the forwards, Victor Hedman might look weak on the Jets b-line. Hopefully new coaching staff will change that next season.

Yes I know there are those out there who want to have no part of Stanley going forward. If the Jets trade Stanley I think they will be sorry, sorry, sorry!

As everyone knows he is big, tough physical and a guy who can protect the midgets on the Jets b-line. Every team need this. Qualities you can't teach. Has a very good shot and is only going to get better and projects as a 4-5 d-man IMO.

Certainly at times he has made mistakes. With the Jets defensive system and lack of back-checking by the forwards, Victor Hedman might look weak on the Jets b-line. Hopefully, new coaching staff will change that next season.
- grahamzky

Zdeno Chara had a slow start as well and really didn't hit stride until his fourth-fifth year in the NHL. I think Stanley is well ahead of where Chara was at a similar age. There is more upside to come. Also, remember that bigger strides make one appear to be moving slower than the shorter guys who have to move their feet faster to travel the same distance.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=28487

Coaching staff has to go (wholesale).
- bennythehat

I think Maurice was twice as good a coach as Lowry but nonetheless, it was time for him to go and bring in someone fresh. Unfortunately, Lowry is definitely not that guy and I agree the whole coaching staff needs to be changed.

Zdeno Chara had a slow start as well and really didn't hit stride until his fourth-fifth year in the NHL. I think Stanley is well ahead of where Chara was at a similar age. There is more upside to come. Also, remember that bigger strides make one appear to be moving slower than the shorter guys who have to move their feet faster to travel the same distance.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=28487
- jetsnation

The problem with this argument is Chara is the one and only example of this thus far. There are a thousand examples of guys that size that never developed to that level.

The problem with this argument is Chara is the one and only example of this thus far. There are a thousand examples of guys that size that never developed to that level.
- Ross77

I wouldn't say the only one. I think Tyler Myers has been an excellent defenseman, Hedman, Oleksiak, Hamilton, Burns , Pronger are/ were all 6' 6"" or more and those are just off the top of my head. Big Bird - Larry Robinson ?

Yes I know there are those out there who want to have no part of Stanley going forward. If the Jets trade Stanley I think they will be sorry, sorry, sorry!

As everyone knows he is big, tough physical and a guy who can protect the midgets on the Jets b-line. Every team need this. Qualities you can't teach. Has a very good shot and is only going to get better and projects as a 4-5 d-man IMO.

Certainly at times he has made mistakes. With the Jets defensive system and lack of back-checking by the forwards, Victor Hedman might look weak on the Jets b-line. Hopefully new coaching staff will change that next season.
- grahamzky

Stanley just isn’t fast enough. He doesn’t move well enough, he doesn’t think we’ll enough.
He’s also not a particularly hard player to play against. He constantly loses to smaller players with leverage because he hasn’t filled out for his height.

The bottom line is he’s approaching peak age, and while survivable at the nhl level, he just hasn’t fixed his flaws so much as made them less impactful

I wouldn't say the only one. I think Tyler Myers has been an excellent defenseman, Hedman, Oleksiak, Hamilton, Burns , Pronger are/ were all 6' 6"" or more and those are just off the top of my head. Big Bird - Larry Robinson ?
- jetsnation

I thought the argument was massive guys taking their time to develop? Maybe I misunderstood. That list you gave, most of those guys were very good to excellent early on.

Fun game to watch with 5 rookies playing, 3 of the D with 17 combines NHL game experience.

I am starting Comrie the next game, I dont care what anyone says.

Fun game to watch with 5 rookies playing, 3 of the D with 17 combines NHL game experience.

I am starting Comrie the next game, I dont care what anyone says.
- Old Flopper

Agreed.

Fun game to watch with 5 rookies playing, 3 of the D with 17 combines NHL game experience.

I am starting Comrie the next game, I dont care what anyone says.
- Old Flopper

Good post!

Fun game to watch with 5 rookies playing, 3 of the D with 17 combines NHL game experience.

I am starting Comrie the next game, I dont care what anyone says.
- Old Flopper

Boy Heinola gave glimpses of what he can be. I'm now a believer! Big believer!

Looking back, think Ville might have been understandably nervous the first game this season, but he got better in the second game, and he really showed his stuff yesterday.

Or maybe he wasn't nervous and it was just the coaching staff taking off the reigns. But whatever, he was very impressive to me with his quickness and plays.

Man, the make-up of next year's b-line is going to be very interesting but Heinola certainly has secured a spot IMO. Maybe old news to some. I'm hoping he can be pencilled in on the right side.

Boy Heinola gave glimpses of what he can be. I'm now a believer! Big believer!

Looking back, think Ville might have been understandably nervous the first game this season, but he got better in the second game, and he really showed his stuff yesterday.

Or maybe he wasn't nervous and it was just the coaching staff taking off the reigns. But whatever, he was very impressive to me with his quickness and plays.

Man, the make-up of next year's b-line is going to be very interesting but Heinola certainly has secured a spot IMO. Maybe old news to some. I'm hoping he can be pencilled in on the right side.
- grahamzky

Yes!!

Under no circumstances can Heinola come out of the line up, like I said about Perfetti a while ago. They both need to play as much as possible this year in the NHL!!!! This will have them both that much more ready next year for higher level consistency. Sending him down Hurts his development, hurts it. It sends him the wrong message, messes with his confidence and does absolutely nothing positive. If anything, you send the guys down at the end of the nhl season for the AHL playoffs if and only if Jets are out.

I don’t care what the Jets have to do, but you don’t take Heinola out!!!

As soon as the 2 Blues collided and Stastny scored, it was as if the bad karma had finally left the Jets. We even got a non-call at a crucial time in the late part of the 3rd.

I don’t know about how the rest of you feel.

I would rather tank to get Shane Wright, than try and squeak into the playoffs at this point.

I don’t know about how the rest of you feel.

I would rather tank to get Shane Wright, than try and squeak into the playoffs at this point.
- TheUltimateJet

Don't think they would get Shane Wright anyways. There are too many teams below us that are not going to let us fall by (Habs?).

Believe we would get like the 10-13th pick right now. But there are still no doubt a lot of good players in this area.

I still "hope" the Jets win, but don't think the sky is falling when they don't.

No tanking !