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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 24 @ 8:01 PM ET
If I’m Chevy, I obviously replace the entire Jets staff.
And no, UJ, Babcock can absolutely never happen. Want to alienate both your young talent and veterans while also looking even worse as an organization after covering for Chevy?

As for the lineup, I sell Schmidt and Dillon at the deadline, purely because the kids have shown they can replace what those two offer at a fraction of the cost.
I offer Copp a stupid 1 year deal and hope he doubles down on himself here for a nifty pay day.

Finish the year with the following:
Connor-Dubois-Svechnikov
(duh)
Ehlers-Perfetti-Scheifele
(shot across the bow for Scheif, let Perfetti do his thing at C with the best wingers he can hope for)
Vesalainen-Copp-Wheeler
(Force Ves to shoot. He can defend already, Wheeler is still a passing god at times, and Copp drives the line. Could revive his shooting prowess)
Stastny-Lowry-Gus
(Grind, boys, grind. Stastny will help Gus finally fire up his underrated offensive talent at the NHL level)
Toninato-Harkins

Morrissey-Heinola
(Morrissey is firing on all cylinders. Let Heinola help him enact operation Avalanche AKA just don’t let yourself be in the D zone)
Samberg-Pionk
(Samberg has been fine. Let’s see where it goes)
Chisholm-DeMelo
(Safety blanket for the most raw D prospect. Has the skill to be an NHL player. Let him prove the rest of his game is there now, too)
Stanley

*edit* if you’re curious about my choice of scratches, it’s like this:
Harkins is fun, but doesn’t actually do anything to impact the game. Toninato is what he is, and that’s not a 12th or better forward for us. Stanley is too slow to get my full trust in the system the Jets should be playing, but gets to stay because I want him to keep improving as a Jet.
Everyone else is waived because not as good as those 3
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 24 @ 8:02 PM ET
One goal in 8 games isn't great, the best place for Perfetti right now is the AHL.
- JetFuel


Shooting percentage is a fun thing in a small sample.

What’s even more fun is him already looking like a top 6 forward in every way besides total points.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 24 @ 8:33 PM ET
Shooting percentage is a fun thing in a small sample.

What’s even more fun is him already looking like a top 6 forward in every way besides total points.

- Rexypoo


Meh, this team is going f@C%!NG nowhere with or without Perfetti, slide that ELC and have him cheap for three seasons after a big offseason retool(hopefully!)
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 24 @ 10:19 PM ET
Meh, this team is going f@C%!NG nowhere with or without Perfetti, slide that ELC and have him cheap for three seasons after a big offseason retool(hopefully!)
- JetFuel


Cheap for 3 seasons after this one means more expensive later. I’d rather have him at 7mil until he’s 30 than 9 mil until he’s 31 because he got an extra year to pile up points before re-signing.

Get him in and going now. Our window is closing unless they get the youth movement going now
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
Cheap for 3 seasons after this one means more expensive later. I’d rather have him at 7mil until he’s 30 than 9 mil until he’s 31 because he got an extra year to pile up points before re-signing.

Get him in and going now. Our window is closing unless they get the youth movement going now

- Rexypoo


This season is closed from a playoffs point of view, this team needs a big retool, I don't see the point in rushing Perfetti, he needs to be playing where he'll rack up points which won't be with the Jets, also there's a better chance he'll get some playoff experience with the Moose.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Jan 25 @ 12:57 AM ET
If I’m Chevy, I obviously replace the entire Jets staff.
And no, UJ, Babcock can absolutely never happen. Want to alienate both your young talent and veterans while also looking even worse as an organization after covering for Chevy?

As for the lineup, I sell Schmidt and Dillon at the deadline, purely because the kids have shown they can replace what those two offer at a fraction of the cost.
I offer Copp a stupid 1 year deal and hope he doubles down on himself here for a nifty pay day.

Finish the year with the following:
Connor-Dubois-Svechnikov
(duh)
Ehlers-Perfetti-Scheifele
(shot across the bow for Scheif, let Perfetti do his thing at C with the best wingers he can hope for)
Vesalainen-Copp-Wheeler
(Force Ves to shoot. He can defend already, Wheeler is still a passing god at times, and Copp drives the line. Could revive his shooting prowess)
Stastny-Lowry-Gus
(Grind, boys, grind. Stastny will help Gus finally fire up his underrated offensive talent at the NHL level)
Toninato-Harkins

Morrissey-Heinola
(Morrissey is firing on all cylinders. Let Heinola help him enact operation Avalanche AKA just don’t let yourself be in the D zone)
Samberg-Pionk
(Samberg has been fine. Let’s see where it goes)
Chisholm-DeMelo
(Safety blanket for the most raw D prospect. Has the skill to be an NHL player. Let him prove the rest of his game is there now, too)
Stanley

*edit* if you’re curious about my choice of scratches, it’s like this:
Harkins is fun, but doesn’t actually do anything to impact the game. Toninato is what he is, and that’s not a 12th or better forward for us. Stanley is too slow to get my full trust in the system the Jets should be playing, but gets to stay because I want him to keep improving as a Jet.
Everyone else is waived because not as good as those 3

- Rexypoo



If the Jets can't get Copp signed before the deadline then trade him. They should dump Stastny also, along with Adam Lowry for forwards.
Defense they can get rid of 2 one on each side, at this point maybe the only untouchable is Morrissey.

From the deadline on, this season should be seeing what the youth can do and the Jets can get a clear picture on where they are at for next season.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
One goal in 8 games isn't great, the best place for Perfetti right now is the AHL.
- JetFuel

not a chance. wheeler has 2 goals in 24 games, can we send him to the moose to? Perfetti has shown in those 8 games he is a top 6 jet forward and already is more defensively responsible than all of 55, 26, 81 as well as others!!!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
It is too soon to give up on playoffs and trade away the team. Statistically they have about a 30% chance of making it to the dance. Even a 3 game win streak would increase that chance significantly. With a hot goalie and a hot line anyone can go on a deep run.

That said we should be concerned that we have not closed out games and special teams performance are sub-par --- and these have been issues with this group for a long time.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
This season is closed from a playoffs point of view, this team needs a big retool, I don't see the point in rushing Perfetti, he needs to be playing where he'll rack up points which won't be with the Jets, also there's a better chance he'll get some playoff experience with the Moose.
- JetFuel


He is driving play and creating chances. He will pile up points soon
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
If the Jets can't get Copp signed before the deadline then trade him. They should dump Stastny also, along with Adam Lowry for forwards.
Defense they can get rid of 2 one on each side, at this point maybe the only untouchable is Morrissey.

From the deadline on, this season should be seeing what the youth can do and the Jets can get a clear picture on where they are at for next season.

- BWJumper


This is probably the most reasonable post I have seen in a while!

I have been advocating to get rid of Lowry for years. He’s the most overrated Jet and I can’t believe the team signed him long-term.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 25 @ 11:53 AM ET
not a chance. wheeler has 2 goals in 24 games, can we send him to the moose to? Perfetti has shown in those 8 games he is a top 6 jet forward and already is more defensively responsible than all of 55, 26, 81 as well as others!!!
- Ross77


I'm not a Wheeler fan but he has 17 assists while Perfetti has zero. Hey I'm excited for Perfetti's future I just don't see what the rush is and would rather have him cheap for the next three seasons which would be very advantageous from a cap perspective. I'm sure they'll waste year one of his ELC this season so you'll get what you want anyway.

Connors defense is much improved this year, Scheifele looks checked out and disinterested, Wheeler just sucks and can't keep up anymore.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
It is too soon to give up on playoffs and trade away the team. Statistically they have about a 30% chance of making it to the dance. Even a 3 game win streak would increase that chance significantly. With a hot goalie and a hot line anyone can go on a deep run.

That said we should be concerned that we have not closed out games and special teams performance are sub-par --- and these have been issues with this group for a long time.

- 2.0


Yes we certainly still have a chance to make the playoffs. But if we make the playoffs there's a good chance t we meet the Avalanche first round. How do you think that might turn out? So Chevy has a major decision - all in for one round - or do we tinker with team, looking ahead?

This team still needs a top-notch RH d-man if we are going to go far. Also it will soon be time to think about replacing Scheifele. Players to keep in mind here: RH d: Noah Dobson, Braden Schneider; C - Anton Lundell, Troy Terry, Alex Newhook. They nay not be top-notch right now but have the glorious word - potential. Terry has already arrived.

Teams best suited for Jets to trade with - the Rangers (oodles of cap room) and the Panthers. Both teams are "all in" this season.

Andrew Copp is a fine player but with UFA looming, he needs to be dealt at the deadline, unless he has re-upped, regardless of which route the Jets take. If we are in jeopardy of missing playoffs, can see Schmidt and DeMelo also being moved. If we are deal in the water at the deadline, teams will asking for Dillon.

Jets untouchables: F- Connor, Ehlers, PLD, Perfetti, Lucius and Wheeler (NTC); D - Morrissey - we have a glut of LH d-men, not sure which way they go here. Can't keep them all! G - Hellebuyck.

Cole Perfetti? I'm torn here. Do we keep him or send him down to save a year on his ELC? I could go either way. He is definitely an NHL player now IMO! Still I will sit on the fence here. Could he be sent down to groom him at centre?
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
If the Jets can't get Copp signed before the deadline then trade him. They should dump Stastny also, along with Adam Lowry for forwards.
Defense they can get rid of 2 one on each side, at this point maybe the only untouchable is Morrissey.

From the deadline on, this season should be seeing what the youth can do and the Jets can get a clear picture on where they are at for next season.

- BWJumper


I'd say Pionk should be the only untouchable on the Jets defense, he's far and away the Jets best dman.

Yes please for the love of gawd do they need to move on from the coach's kid, he sucks and has for years!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 25 @ 12:27 PM ET
I agree! It’s time to bring in a coach that needs reclamation. I am on the Mike Babcock train.

Also this talk about moving Scheifele is nuts. You guys have lost your minds.

- TheUltimateJet



I agree - it's time to change the coaching staff, barring a late season miracle.

Names of potential candidates on my list: Joel Quennville, Luke Richardson, Alain Vigneault, Mike Babcock, and might Barry Trottz be available? If Trotz available, obviously he jumps to head of class. Maybe he has been tuned out on The Island?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
If the Jets can't get Copp signed before the deadline then trade him. They should dump Stastny also, along with Adam Lowry for forwards.
Defense they can get rid of 2 one on each side, at this point maybe the only untouchable is Morrissey.

From the deadline on, this season should be seeing what the youth can do and the Jets can get a clear picture on where they are at for next season.

- BWJumper


If we sell Copp and Stastny too, my lineup changes to Gus as 3C with Harkins as the 4LW and Reichel as the 4RW
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
I agree - it's time to change the coaching staff, barring a late season miracle.

Names of potential candidates on my list: Joel Quennville, Luke Richardson, Alain Vigneault, Mike Babcock, and might Barry Trottz be available? If Trotz available, obviously he jumps to head of class. Maybe he has been tuned out on The Island?

- grahamzky


Q and Babcock are solid no’s out of the gate. Sh*t people.
Vigneault has lost whatever he had in Vancouver.

Trotz, however, I chase no matter the cost
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Q and Babcock are solid no’s out of the gate. Sh*t people.
Vigneault has lost whatever he had in Vancouver.

Trotz, however, I chase no matter the cost

- Rexypoo


I agree,

but i like the idea of Rikard Gronborg, also Samberg's coach in Minny won 3 national championships, might be worth a look to.
I liked the Dallas coach that had to resign and enter AA, I wonder how he is doing? but i cant remember right now what trouble he got into so dont hold me to that.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
Shooting percentage is a fun thing in a small sample.

What’s even more fun is him already looking like a top 6 forward in every way besides total points.

- Rexypoo



Rex I agree with you. Perfetti seems like a great fit and Connor and him found some quick chemistry. That being said, keeping him up would be a huge mistake. Jet's aren't playing like a team that wants to win the Stanley Cup, and Perfetti is about to lose one precious year of his ELC. I'd sooner let him represent team Canada at the Olympics and enjoy the next 3 years of a guy on an ELC that could be a big contributor in a top 6 role. That is what is best for the Jets.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 25 @ 2:33 PM ET
It is too soon to give up on playoffs and trade away the team. Statistically they have about a 30% chance of making it to the dance. Even a 3 game win streak would increase that chance significantly. With a hot goalie and a hot line anyone can go on a deep run.

That said we should be concerned that we have not closed out games and special teams performance are sub-par --- and these have been issues with this group for a long time.

- 2.0


Games to be made up:
Jets should beat: Kraken, Sens, Blackhawks
Jets will have a tough battle against: Wild, Edmonton, Wild again, Flames, Stars, Preds

Nothing is guaranteed, but some hard games to be made up, and likely many back-to-back match's too boot. They need to do themselves some favours and start winning now. Samberg needs far more shelter, as the big guy lacks physicality and the ability to tie guys up in front of the net. That is something Pionk, Dillon, Stanley, and Jomo are great at so lets keep rolling them for the time being. Samberg and DeMelo were both unreliable at protecting the puck and making clean exits the past 2 games.


bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 25 @ 4:40 PM ET
*chuckles in Colorado Avalanche*
- Rexypoo




For the record...Colorado's GAA is virtually the same as ours.
We don't have a defenceman (regardless of size) that compares to Makar.
The eye test tells me that our D gets manhandled in front of Helly.
The eye test tells me that we also do not have any d-man that can skate and handle the puck like Makar.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
For the record...Colorado's GAA is virtually the same as ours.
We don't have a defenceman (regardless of size) that compares to Makar.
The eye test tells me that our D gets manhandled in front of Helly.
The eye test tells me that we also do not have any d-man that can skate and handle the puck like Makar.

- bennythehat


Well, Ville can help all of those things.
He skates very well, handles and distributes the puck insanely well, and he’s a bit of a mean bastard if you’ve watched Moose games
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 5:14 PM ET
Well, Ville can help some of those things.
well... he skates but slowly and makes up for it with good transitions and positioning, handles and distributes the puck insanely well, and he’s a bit of a mean bastard if you’ve watched Moose games

- Rexypoo


fixed

edit: to be fair Pionk also has poor straight line speed and is a fair comparison for what we can hope for in Ville in the next couple of years.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 25 @ 11:45 PM ET
Cole got a couple points and looks good out there but I still think they should send him down and slide that ELC cause this team is going nowhere this season, that's five losses in a row now people, FIVE!!

The Jets have played three less games then Chicago and are 4 points up on the Hawks in the standings but we're getting pretty close to 7th place in the division, oh well, at least they'll get a good draft pick I guess, hopefully Chevy doesn't plan on trading it in a panic move to try to save the season.

This team needs an overhaul, I knew the Jets issues were way more then just Maurice (though I never bought into what he was selling)and needing to fix its defense.



grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 8:05 AM ET
Cole got a couple points and looks good out there but I still think they should send him down and slide that ELC cause this team is going nowhere this season, that's five losses in a row now people, FIVE!!

The Jets have played three less games then Chicago and are 4 points up on the Hawks in the standings but we're getting pretty close to 7th place in the division, oh well, at least they'll get a good draft pick I guess, hopefully Chevy doesn't plan on trading it in a panic move to try to save the season.

This team needs an overhaul, I knew the Jets issues were way more then just Maurice (though I never bought into what he was selling)and needing to fix its defense.

- JetFuel


I would:

1. Keep Perfetti on the Jets going forward
2. Send Heinola back to the Moose for more experience
3. Trade Scheifele for Lundell now if possible (others included for
salary cap issues)
4. Trade Copp for best package I could find
5. Change our entire coaching staff at season's end
6. Pray for better seasons ahead! lol
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
This another game that could have went the Jets way. Quite a few shots that just trickled by the post, Bob got lucky on a number of plays.

Helle has always and will likely always look like a fish out of water once he departs the crease. How many goals have resulted from him trying to play the puck this year? I can't count them all. But, the loss is not all his fault, still a good goalie and Bob got pretty lucky last night with many pucks just squirting by the post.

Speaking of handling the puck, I would have liked to see the Birdman in at least one game during the season. Goalies need competition and we know Helle is the best the Jets have but still would like to see an up and coming goalie get at least one game.

I would imagine the coaching staff would have tight leash on Birdman if he did get a game, but I would like to see him rip the the puck off the glass clearing the puck. He is a bit of a renegade but goalies need a bit of character to shine.
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