Funny, the board laments now letting Hartman go. He is 3 years older than Strome. Strome is the same age as Borgstrom. Strome also has what most of the Hawks forwards do not, offensive vision and can put a pass on the stick of a teammate. I guess you would rather have Carpenter, Kampf (when he was here) or that ilk center for Kane, because they don’t get benched? I am not saying Strome is the second coming of Jean Belivesu, but the Hawks have no one on the team with his current skill set, and until they do, I would rather see them keep him than a 3 rd round draft choice.
- LAHawk

Don't ever infer anything about a player preference I might have -if I don't state it, it doesn't exist.

He might eventually prove me wrong, but IMO Strome will never be much more than mediocre in the NHL because he can't skate and he is soft, which means the only time his game is positive is when he has the puck in the OZ.

You are entitled to think otherwise about him, no issue with me. Just let me know for the record how long and for how much would you be willing to put him under a new contract for.

So I have you on the record

I was more hoping Murphy for acouple of expiring contracts (nick titchie being one) to make the money work, and also the Leafs #1 pick. They are that desperate.
- LAHawk

I would have to check but I think the Loafs only have 2 picks total in this year's draft and no #1.

So who ( besides me) on this board will admit that Strome was far and away the best Hawk player on the ice last night, and since the coaching change, one of the best players on the team?

Dots was right this team was not ready to play last night. This now is a trend under 2 coaches. Maybe it is time to change the players? Anyone concerned that the 21=year old birthday boy played like he celebrated before the game last night? Kubalik playing any meaningful minutes is a joke. They aren’t getting anything for him at the TDL, they should just DFA him at the end of the season.

This board is great about calling out how Carpenter, Khaira, etc. suck. Well they do, so do most other teams 4th line, 12th /. 13th forwards. When are we going to stop making excuses for the others?

Only trade chip Hawks have that is going to bring back anything is Fleury. With Kessel, Chycrun, Klingberg, Pavelski among others being floated, who wants what the Hawks are offering?
- LAHawk

Right there with ya LA

The entire team effort was so sad to watch the 1st 2 periods it's difficult to focus on any positives. Strome included.

On another forum, there was a mention of the coach not preparing the players. I called BS on that. The Hawks are simply not very good and unless they're getting exceptional goaltending, they are below average. And if the guys they are playing against are just better players, they're (there, their) screwed.

They currently sit at 15W/19L/6OL. They have only 8 regulation wins and out of those 8 only 2 were against teams that are over .500 (VEG/ANA). In the win against the Nucks, I believe at that time they were under .500.

Time to move who you can, get the best return you can (which will be 2nd guessed into infinity), and start trying to put together a team that works hard an entire game.
- Rota's Rooter

Dach to Rockford please.

I would have to check but I think the Loafs only have 2 picks total in this year's draft and no #1.
- RickJ

They have their #1, not #3 thru 7.

I would sign Strome to a qualifying offer, one year $3 million. Someone wants to beat that, Hawks get a second round pick.

He was the best player on the ice for hawks last night. There is obvious chemistry with him and Kane. And for love of God put dach on the wing already. Dcat strome Kane
Dach towes kubalik
Hagel Borgstrom Kurashev
Carpenter Lafferty enswhistle
Karia send Hardman down to the ahl

And what did the Wild do? They bit the bullet and bought out Suter and Parise.
- LAHawk

And they are going to be (frank)ed for the next three years because of it. $12-14M in dead cap each of the next three years.

And they are going to be (frank)ed for the next three years because of it. $12-14M in dead cap each of the next three years.
- Chunk

Every year we hear about teams bring franked because of the cap (Tampa, Vegas), but each year the teams find a way to figure it out.

Every year we hear about teams bring franked because of the cap (Tampa, Vegas), but each year the teams find a way to figure it out.
- LAHawk

They certainly do, but they currently have 13 players signed for next year and only $13M remaining in cap space. That's gonna have to be some Bernie Madoff accounting to fill out the roster.

They certainly do, but they currently have 13 players signed for next year and only $13M remaining in cap space. That's gonna have to be some Bernie Madoff accounting to fill out the roster.
- Chunk

One of Spurgeon, Brodin or Dumba will be traded, there is $6mil. Plus right there.

I have no interest in seeing him in a Hawk sweater anymore. I suspect his career will be the same, he’ll continually need a kick in the ass to get him interested again. But he has played well the last little while, hopefully well enough that he’ll bring back a decent draft pick at the TDL.

How about them Leaves. Isn’t that team defense in fine form?
- paulr

Yeah, Strome is inconsistent. At times he is playing like a top C and then other times just floating. We've seen him play like he did last night, but we need that effort on a much more consistent basis. It doesn't seem like he is part of the future of the team, so they can make a trade if there is something offered.

Stillman and Khaira to IR. Stillman is becoming one of my favorites, he could end up being a good one when it’s all said and done. He seems to make a good first pass and has other good attributes, but yeah like any young Dman he still makes some mistakes.

Stillman and Khaira to IR. Stillman is becoming one of my favorites, he could end up being a good one when it’s all said and done. He seems to make a good first pass and has other good attributes, but yeah like any young Dman he still makes some mistakes.
- Angotti

Stillman’s improvement has been one of the few good stories for the Hawks this year.

Stillman and Khaira to IR. Stillman is becoming one of my favorites, he could end up being a good one when it’s all said and done. He seems to make a good first pass and has other good attributes, but yeah like any young Dman he still makes some mistakes.
- Angotti

The trouble is a young player on a bad team will make plays that make him look bad when the mistake may have more to do with the lack of talent around him. I think this makes it a little more difficult to assess that player. I try to look for the basic fundamentals aside from skating and passing, like does he play on the correct side of the puck when he’s not in possession. Does he cheat on plays. Does he play the position properly. Does he get involved or try to play not to get hit. Even that can be difficult to fully assess a player because he may cover for the mistakes of others, getting out of position or making the incorrect play, compounding a mistake by making one himself. This is where scouting and coaching are vital in player assessment.

Wake me when the season ends .

Stillman’s improvement has been one of the few good stories for the Hawks this year.
- LAHawk

Depending on what happens at tdl and offseason the dcore could look the same but have to believe someone from that defensive will be traded besides dehann.

Depending on what happens at tdl and offseason the dcore could look the same but have to believe someone from that defensive will be traded besides dehann.
- Scott1977

They could trade Gus for the right bag of pucks. Kidding aside, are you thinking Murphy?

They could trade Gus for the right bag of pucks. Kidding aside, are you thinking Murphy?
- 333inthe3rd

What day is it? Eh, doesn't matter. Scott's open for biz and pretty much everyone's on the block...which may not be a bad thing with this team.

Yeah, Strome is inconsistent. At times he is playing like a top C and then other times just floating. We've seen him play like he did last night, but we need that effort on a much more consistent basis. It doesn't seem like he is part of the future of the team, so they can make a trade if there is something offered.
- breadbag

I agree, but why develop a player then trade him? He's only 24 now and seems to be receiving the message the staff is telling him. Seems to me many here don't want to wait for a player to develop, then when they begin to EDIT(because it took so long for them to develop which makes no sense to me) they want to trade them for a draft pick? And what if that 2nd round pick takes a while to develop do we trade them as well? Where does it end? Not directed at you just seems to be a similar mind set by many on this board

They could trade Gus for the right bag of pucks. Kidding aside, are you thinking Murphy?
- 333inthe3rd

Yes or McCabe if not then the same dcore comes back minus dehann. They need to get more mobile on the back end.

What day is it? Eh, doesn't matter. Scott's open for biz and pretty much everyone's on the block...which may not be a bad thing with this team.
- HawkintheD

Yes everyone should be on trading block no untouchables listen to any offers and go from there. Obviously some players have nmt clauses of different degrees but everything should be on the table. Imo Kane gets dealt at the draft towes next year at tdl if he doesn't retire.

Yes or McCabe if not then the same dcore comes back minus dehann. They need to get more mobile on the back end.
- Scott1977

Looking at metrics, I see that McCabe and Murphy have around 2/3 of their starts in the D zone. That doesn't seem normal. I looked at the 2015 team for comparison, and none of the D's were lopsided in that regard. Kruger was lopsided there, but that was about it.

Yes everyone should be on trading block no untouchables listen to any offers and go from there. Obviously some players have nmt clauses of different degrees but everything should be on the table. Imo Kane gets dealt at the draft towes next year at tdl if he doesn't retire.
- Scott1977

Sounds like you went to the Jerry Krause school of how to set your franchise back by decades

Yes everyone should be on trading block no untouchables listen to any offers and go from there. Obviously some players have nmt clauses of different degrees but everything should be on the table. Imo Kane gets dealt at the draft towes next year at tdl if he doesn't retire.
- Scott1977

Sorry Scott but Toews isn't getting dealt. I'll be surprised if he doesn't play out his contract here.

I know you like trades and in the right deal everyone's tradable. This thing's already been pretty much ripped down to the studs and after next season the only significant money on the books is Jones.

Sorry Scott but Toews isn't getting dealt. I'll be surprised if he doesn't play out his contract here.

I know you like trades and in the right deal everyone's tradable. This thing's already been pretty much ripped down to the studs and after next season the only significant money on the books is Jones.
- HawkintheD

What’s wrong with you Francis? The NHL isn’t about wins and losses or Stanley Cups. It’s about trades, the more the better! Get with the program.