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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
I'm with you wedgie
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 3:02 PM ET
2023 1st, Knies, Amirov.

idk, tough to gage this because its probably a 7-8 player trade and not a 3 for 1 type.

- Santo_44

Plus whoever has to be moved to fit him in under the cap. Don’t forget Jack, Rielly, Kase, Sandin Lilljegren $ needs to be found
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
2023 1st, Knies, Amirov.

idk, tough to gage this because its probably a 7-8 player trade and not a 3 for 1 type.

- Santo_44


Yeah, it's a hard thing for sure to try and work out. Because on top of what they'll want, the Leafs gotta shed CAP.

So if Arizona takes one of Ritchie or Holl to make it work, the Leafs still need to find another team to take the other of the two. (I name those two because their CAP = Chychrun's)
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Risto and Braun both at 50% retention are there for the taking....
- hello it's me 2050

Can they guarantee retaining 50% of Risto's minuses?
BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Jan 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Chychrun and crouse

For

Sandin, Robertson, Ritchie, kerfoot and a 1st

Need a new top 4 dman badly. Sandin is to small and to slow for real nhl competition and Robertson is gonna be injured all the time so cut bait while he still might have some value. Ritchie is a cap dump along with poor kerfoot who I would rather keep but dubas gave merazik a no trade.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Please dïckpunch yourself on the way out
- .HOHO.

some nut bar put expanding foam in his manhood


https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

could work here as well
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Chychrun and crouse

For

Sandin, Robertson, Ritchie, kerfoot and a 1st

Need a new top 4 dman badly. Sandin is to small and to slow for real nhl competition and Robertson is gonna be injured all the time so cut bait while he still might have some value. Ritchie is a cap dump along with poor kerfoot who I would rather keep but dubas gave merazik a no trade.

- BrainSap


Why not add AM or MM to the deal to make for a really good fantasy?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
Chychrun and crouse

For

Sandin, Robertson, Ritchie, kerfoot and a 1st

Need a new top 4 dman badly. Sandin is to small and to slow for real nhl competition and Robertson is gonna be injured all the time so cut bait while he still might have some value. Ritchie is a cap dump along with poor kerfoot who I would rather keep but dubas gave merazik a no trade.

- BrainSap


why would they want Sandin and Robertson if they are the best parts of the deal and 1 is small and slow for the NHL and the other is injured all the time?

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Yeah, it's a hard thing for sure to try and work out. Because on top of what they'll want, the Leafs gotta shed CAP.

So if Arizona takes one of Ritchie or Holl to make it work, the Leafs still need to find another team to take the other of the two. (I name those two because their CAP = Chychrun's)

- GreatGigInTheSky


ARZ likely chooses 2 out of Robertson, Niemela, Knies or Amirov.

2022 or 2023 1st

And then pieces from both sides that don’t carry high value.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
why would they want Sandin and Robertson if they are the best parts of the deal and 1 is small and slow for the NHL and the other is injured all the time?


- senstroll


Robertson is a top prospect, period.

You can make anyone sound bad. “Chychrun has 8 points this year and hasn’t been close to the top pairing he was last year, why would anyone pay a premium for him?”

Chychrun is an elite young D.

Robertson is a top prospect.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 20 @ 3:22 PM ET
ARZ likely chooses 2 out of Robertson, Niemela, Knies or Amirov.

2022 or 2023 1st

And then pieces from both sides that don’t carry high value.

- Santo_44


for no real good reason I would want to keep Knies
BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Jan 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
why would they want Sandin and Robertson if they are the best parts of the deal and 1 is small and slow for the NHL and the other is injured all the time?


- senstroll


Well let’s just hope the yotes don’t agree with my player evaluation
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
for fun, I looked up a couple other teams fans...proposals

DeBrusk, Vaakanainen and Studnicka for Chychrun and Crouse?

Spencer Knight, Anton Lundell, 1st RD pick


how do these compare
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
for fun, I looked up a couple other teams fans...proposals

DeBrusk, Vaakanainen and Studnicka for Chychrun and Crouse?

Spencer Knight, Anton Lundell, 1st RD pick


how do these compare

- senstroll


Was it actually fun?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
for fun, I looked up a couple other teams fans...proposals

DeBrusk, Vaakanainen and Studnicka for Chychrun and Crouse?

Spencer Knight, Anton Lundell, 1st RD pick


how do these compare

- senstroll

Florida would never trade Lundell...or Knight....
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Well let’s just hope the yotes don’t agree with my player evaluation
- BrainSap


No need to worry. Kyle won't be a part of it either.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
Yeah, it's a hard thing for sure to try and work out. Because on top of what they'll want, the Leafs gotta shed CAP.

So if Arizona takes one of Ritchie or Holl to make it work, the Leafs still need to find another team to take the other of the two. (I name those two because their CAP = Chychrun's)

- GreatGigInTheSky

The deal has to be $ in for $ out. If they take both Holl and Ritchie or take Holl and retain 50%, fine but the cost will go up.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Was it actually fun?
- TheMussel


i dunno
i guess
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Florida would never trade Lundell...or Knight....
- AdamFrench


whoa so many untouchables
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
So why not look at Dobson instead of Chychrun? Besides, Lou owes us a favor or two. ,
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
for fun, I looked up a couple other teams fans...proposals

DeBrusk, Vaakanainen and Studnicka for Chychrun and Crouse?

Spencer Knight, Anton Lundell, 1st RD pick


how do these compare

- senstroll


Yeah, option B is vastly superior.

That Bruins offer might be the worst I've seen't for Chychrun.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 20 @ 3:40 PM ET
So check out the rental market and see where things sit in the summer
- Canada Cup

If Chychrun can be had for a price worth paying in-season (I'm not quite convinced), I think you make the move.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
If Chychrun can be had for a price worth paying in-season (I'm not quite convinced), I think you make the move.
- mjones242


AZ holds the cards. They don’t need to trade him. Also they will point out, correctly his # going forward is a steal @ 4.6

So figure - 1st probably want top 15 / current quality player / top prospect.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
whoa so many untouchables
- senstroll

Lundell is already on pace to be a 50 point rookie and Knight is the highest thought of goalie prospect since Jack Campbell (LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL)

So why the move when you can keep the assets and trade the Vatrano's/Verheage's if you lose?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
The leafs soft?
So shocking.

Just got boosted!
Mo- phzer -mo
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