Good post, Jack is slumping IMO, and as much as most will ignore, timing and types of goals allowed can affect a team dramatically. The 2nd goal by Reaves in the 2nd period was a stinker IMO, bad angle, Cambpell on his knees and top quarter of the net wide open. The Leafs wilted after that goal and were awful in the third. So you are right about playing for 60 minutes, some goals against hurt more than others though.
- winsix

I don’t think we’re seeing the real leafs at the moment. Playing twice a week isn’t even enough for them to stay in game shape.

Canadian teams are really getting screwed at the moment.

I didn't know that..

Either way TB has no problems spreading out mins for their 3 elite LDH.

Think ARZ eventually meets in the middle for one of these teams on the price.

They would probably ask for Sandin, 1st and Kerfoot. Knock that down a few pegs with taking out Sandin and adding someone lesser and I think there is a deal to be had.
- Santo_44

To your point though, Muzzin will likely not be a Leaf after this summer. And yes, I would very gladly accept Chychrun on this team!

Definitely would not be trading Sandin. Perhaps Lilybust might be worth a look?

My 10 year old son is awesome

Just got home… he has his notepad open on the table for me to see. He has the Leafs 2023 roster set with trades 😆

Wood Severson and Blackwood
for
Muzzin Liljegren and Robertson

Mrazek (Marasek) for 4th

Marner SDA for Svechnikov

Waive Ritchie and Holl
Sign Husso 1.5m x 3

Wood Matthews Svechnikov
Bunting Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Kase
Robertson Engvall Simmonds

Rielly Brodie
Sandin Severson
Dermott Niemela
Kokkonen

Blackwood
Husso

Better than most…..he messed up Robertson

I don’t think we’re seeing the real leafs at the moment. Playing twice a week isn’t even enough for them to stay in game shape.

Canadian teams are really getting screwed at the moment.
- shack67

This is an interesting point that may have some merit.

Keefe's "soft" comment was a bit of a shot off the bow for the players AND Dubas, methinks. Though I imagine the latter was unintentionally intentional.

They never competed what so ever after the first. Has anyone seen the 4th line out there in the last few games?

They've hit a stretch of games where they are not strong defensively. Managed to hang in most of them and grab points, but at least they are not lacking for goals. Simply have to tighten up.

And yes, Dermott should be the first to go. Talks a good game with the call-ups, but little else to show.

Trade for Chychrun

Rielly
Chychrun
Muzzin

Left side.

Win the cup and Muzzin will agree to waive his NMC for an early semi retirement in Arizona
- Santo_44

Really like Chychrun, also like Crouse but the cost is the issue. Arizona has 3 first in this draft, so draft picks are not goint to get it done. What do the Leafs really have to make a trade work? Nylander plus might do it, but do you give up one of your most consistent players over the past year to do it. Maybe - I don't know, Zezel would be pissed.

To your point though, Muzzin will likely not be a Leaf after this summer. And yes, I would very gladly accept Chychrun on this team!

Definitely would not be trading Sandin. Perhaps Lilybust might be worth a look?
- mjones242

Unless he returns to form I would agree.

Liljegren needs to stay, one of the few legit right handed guys.

I know guys would hate it....but Knies is probably of interest being a local guy.

Roberston is a player that can step in their lineup and give some fans some excitement.

ill message you the link, dont want any snakes in the grass hiding and bidding me up
- senstroll

I googled (I was actually looking to see if mens leagues were starting back up) and this Sun article was the first thing I saw which is where I got that info from.

I suppose you could argue they could have 500 people for the first 5 games which isn't zero but in a rink that holds 19000+ it's close to it. lol

https://torontosun.com/sp...-before-sba-is-full-again
- Cush29

This is franking nonsense.

They already have protocols in place whereby only double-vaxxed can get in.

Up it to boosted-only.

You're 91% less likely to go to ICU if you are at least double-vaxxed.

99% of all cases in Ontario are now Omicron.

It's time to let those who have been responsible get back to regular living, and anti-vaxxers can go frank themselves.

Really like Chychrun, also like Crouse but the cost is the issue. Arizona has 3 first in this draft, so draft picks are not goint to get it done. What do the Leafs really have to make a trade work? Nylander plus might do it, but do you give up one of your most consistent players over the past year to do it. Maybe - I don't know, Zezel would be pissed.
- winsix

Nylander is arguably worth more than Chychrun, but regardless ARZ is trading Chychrun to get prospects and picks...otherwise why wouldn't they just keep the 23 year old?

1st is one of the easy pieces to add-done

Then Knies, a ARZ boy who has had his value skyrocket this season would likely be of interest

Robertson is a top prospect who can play in ARZ this season.

Niemela-not a fan of moving him but he is in play.

Some nice young throw ins in Dermott and Engvall.

Kerfoot-they can keep him or trade him for more youth.

Don't think Risto is an upgrade over Holl at 2.75M(after retention)
- Santo_44

If people want to argue this, just know that I agree and no-one has pointed out Holl's many many many many short comings as an AHL defenseman playing in the NHL as much as I have.

Unless he returns to form I would agree.

Liljegren needs to stay, one of the few legit right handed guys.

I know guys would hate it....but Knies is probably of interest being a local guy.

Roberston is a player that can step in their lineup and give some fans some excitement.
- Santo_44

Even if he returns to form, if the Leafs acquired Chychrun it would necessitate a salary leaving the team to make room for Jack (or whomever else they bring in to netmind).

Unless there's another seismic move to make... Marner?

Trade for Chychrun

Rielly
Chychrun
Muzzin

Left side.

Win the cup and Muzzin will agree to waive his NMC for an early semi retirement in Arizona
- Santo_44

Even if he returns to form, if the Leafs acquired Chychrun it would necessitate a salary leaving the team to make room for Jack (or whomever else they bring in to netmind).

Unless there's another seismic move to make... Marner?
- mjones242

You'd think Muzzin would agree to be traded if he was behind 3 D man 100% and then having Sandin and Lil sneaking up on him as well.

But also at the end of the day he holds the cards.

You'd think Muzzin would agree to be traded if he was behind 3 D man 100% and then having Sandin and Lil sneaking up on him as well.

But also at the end of the day he holds the cards.
- Santo_44

True, I forgot the M-NTC doesn't kick in until 2023.

To your point though, Muzzin will likely not be a Leaf after this summer. And yes, I would very gladly accept Chychrun on this team!

Definitely would not be trading Sandin. Perhaps Lilybust might be worth a look?
- mjones242

I'd for sure be keeping Liljegren and trying to keep Sandin, too.

1st and top prospects should be what they'd accept. Since losing right now and the next season should be their plan. And then build up as a team in a couple seasons.

Even if he returns to form, if the Leafs acquired Chychrun it would necessitate a salary leaving the team to make room for Jack (or whomever else they bring in to netmind).

Unless there's another seismic move to make... Marner?
- mjones242

So check out the rental market and see where things sit in the summer

True, I forgot the M-NTC doesn't kick in until 2023.
- mjones242

But also if they trade for Chychrun, Muzzin gets a taste of what his ice time will be like next year...with Sandin looking for a top 4 spot as well...which would be down dramatically and for a 33 year old who probably wants one more contract in the NHL he would be wise to look elsewhere.

But also if they trade for Chychrun, Muzzin gets a taste of what his ice time will be like next year...with Sandin looking for a top 4 spot as well...which would be down dramatically and for a 33 year old who probably wants one more contract in the NHL he would be wise to look elsewhere.
- Santo_44

Apparently Florida wants Chicklets😔

Apparently Florida wants Chicklets😔
- mr.sir

I am sure plenty of teams do, depends on which prospects ARZ values.

But also if they trade for Chychrun, Muzzin gets a taste of what his ice time will be like next year...with Sandin looking for a top 4 spot as well...which would be down dramatically and for a 33 year old who probably wants one more contract in the NHL he would be wise to look elsewhere.
- Santo_44

Marner + Dermot for Chycrun + Crouse + AZ's second highest 1st this summer. + a 4th

I'd for sure be keeping Liljegren and trying to keep Sandin, too.

1st and top prospects should be what they'd accept. Since losing right now and the next season should be their plan. And then build up as a team in a couple seasons.
- GreatGigInTheSky

2023 1st, Knies, Amirov.

idk, tough to gage this because its probably a 7-8 player trade and not a 3 for 1 type.

Marner + Dermot for Chycrun + Crouse + AZ's second highest 1st this summer.

- HenryHockey

Zero chance Marner is traded this season, zero

My 10 year old son is awesome

Just got home… he has his notepad open on the table for me to see. He has the Leafs 2023 roster set with trades 😆

Wood Severson and Blackwood
for
Muzzin Liljegren and Robertson

Mrazek (Marasek) for 4th

Marner SDA for Svechnikov

Waive Ritchie and Holl
Sign Husso 1.5m x 3

Wood Matthews Svechnikov
Bunting Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Kase
Robertson Engvall Simmonds

Rielly Brodie
Sandin Severson
Dermott Niemela
Kokkonen

Blackwood
Husso

Better than most…..he messed up Robertson
- mr.sir

He messed more than just Robertson.


You both should just stop.

Marner + Dermot for Chycrun + Crouse + AZ's second highest 1st this summer. + a 4th

- HenryHockey

Please dïckpunch yourself on the way out