The media thinking they're a more important part of something than they actually are? I find that hard to believe
- Takemedrunkimhome

It's like that Red Fisher guy here. The last 25 years of his career were writing HuffPost style listicles once a week. "For the next 2.5 months I'll be revealing my top 10 Canadiens who played between the world wars."

His whole "greatness," like this Matheson fellow, was covering a team who won a lot.

I just think it's stupid for media members to enter the HHOF
- mr.peanut

Going to that place was 3 hours of my life I'll never get back..

It's like that Red Fisher guy here. The last 25 years of his career were writing HuffPost style listicles once a week. "For the next 2.5 months I'll be revealing my top 10 Canadiens who played between the world wars."

His whole "greatness," like this Matheson fellow, was covering a team who won a lot.
- mr.peanut

Good example. Sports journalism tends to be an oxymoron (sorry Karine) but you find it in all walks of journalism. Once people stopped paying for papers the quality dropped even further

Well they have a media wing. Like a broom closet only visited by other media members.

I don't think they should get any of that. How is asking questions and writing about it deserving of an eternal recognition of greatness.

"Gretzky had 4, Fuhr let in 7, but it was enough for the oilers to beat the North Stars 9-7."

Greatness
- mr.peanut

and if it's safe to say any of them won't be getting a Pulitzer any time soon, and they still really want to be recognized, they might as well have their own little "media hockey hall of fame", completely seperate from the actual HHOF.


although I'm not quite sure I get your Fuhr analogy...

Good example. Sports journalism tends to be an oxymoron (sorry Karine) but you find it in all walks of journalism. Once people stopped paying for papers the quality dropped even further
- Takemedrunkimhome

Yup, they find it to not make themselves at least part of the story.

Yup, they find it to not make themselves at least part of the story.
- mr.peanut

Once you become part of the story, specifically as a result of your own actions, your editor should intervene

Meatloaf lied

Meatloaf died
- THE BLACK HAND

Funeral By The Dashboard Light??

only Pezzetta, Poehling and Lekhonen played less than Drouin last night.
baby steps.

only Pezzetta, Poehling and Lekhonen played less than Drouin last night.
baby steps.
- fidopro

he's still 3rd for pts on the team, and has often looked better than a lot of guys this season, I'd give him a break.

I just think it's stupid for media members to enter the HHOF
- mr.peanut

Can't believe I agree with you on something.

Can't believe I agree with you on something.
- stinger67

he's still 3rd for pts on the team, and has often looked better than a lot of guys this season, I'd give him a break.
- Pat1993

2 points less than Suzuki having played 7 less games than Suzuki. That's depressing when I think about it

2 points less than Suzuki having played 7 less games than Suzuki. That's depressing when I think about it
- Takemedrunkimhome

yeah, that for me sums up the whole (frank)ing season... I'm hoping next year will be much better in terms of individual performances in general.

What a great timing for Ben Chiarot to start playing like poop.

What a great timing for Ben Chiarot to start playing like poop.
- stinger67

He did NOT look good at all in that OT period and kept getting schooled by Shea Theodore.

What a great timing for Ben Chiarot to start playing like poop.
- stinger67

He wants to stay.

yeah, that for me sums up the whole (frank)ing season... I'm hoping next year will be much better in terms of individual performances in general.
- Pat1993

If the Habs won the lottery the next two years and drafted Wright and Bedard, they'd still be at least a year or two from competing, that's how bad I think it is

If the Habs won the lottery the next two years and drafted Wright and Bedard, they'd still be at least a year or two from competing, that's how bad I think it is
- Takemedrunkimhome

I'm hoping we'll see noticeable albeit small baby steps in the right direction starting from next year, depending of course on what happens with at the trade deadline and during the offseason. I'm aware though my optimism might be misplaced in this case lol

If the Habs won the lottery the next two years and drafted Wright and Bedard, they'd still be at least a year or two from competing, that's how bad I think it is
- Takemedrunkimhome

yep, also the way I see it. until Primeau, Guhle, Mailloux, Harris, Suzuki Caufield... are all on the team and mature enough to reach a level of excellency... it will be difficult. so 3 years from now. IF they hit a homerun at the draft the next 2 years.

He wants to stay.
- AdamFrench

Cold winter, restaurants and bars closed, up to Monday we still had a 10 pm curfew.

I mean, who wouldn't?

I'm hoping we'll see noticeable albeit small baby steps in the right direction starting from next year, depending of course on what happens with at the trade deadline and during the offseason. I'm aware though my optimism might be misplaced in this case lol
- Pat1993

Well...this was the year they made off season moves to get better and just ended up sucking...this is the pre-sell off team.

This year: Lehkonen goes. Chiarot goes. If anybody wants Kulak or Wideman they go. Any other vet anybody wants likely goes.

By the draft all of these are on the table: Allen, Price, Drouin, Hoffman, Toffoli, Dvorak, Byron, Armia, Petry and Edmundson. Not everybody will go but they likely will try and move a lot of them and whoever is left at the trade deadline next year.

No idea what happens with Gallagher for a lot of reasons. Either way it's a long winded way of saying it really could be worse next year

Well...this was the year they made off season moves to get better and just ended up sucking...this is the pre-sell off team.

This year: Lehkonen goes. Chiarot goes. If anybody wants Kulak or Wideman they go. Any other vet anybody wants likely goes.

By the draft all of these are on the table: Allen, Price, Drouin, Hoffman, Toffoli, Dvorak, Byron, Armia, Petry and Edmundson. Not everybody will go but they likely will try and move a lot of them and whoever is left at the trade deadline next year.

No idea what happens with Gallagher for a lot of reasons. Either way it's a long winded way of saying it really could be worse next year
- Takemedrunkimhome

they'll somehow finish 33rd in a league of 32 teams.

they'll somehow finish 33rd in a league of 32 teams.
- Pat1993

Broken record but the right time to rebuild was the second they knew Weber was "broken". MB's summer of '21 set the Habs back a lot

Broken record but the right time to rebuild was the second they knew Weber was "broken". MB's summer of '21 set the Habs back a lot
- Takemedrunkimhome

I wonder what exactly was known in advance in Weber's case, to be honest looking at what he was able to do during the playoffs I thought he could still play again, even if it was in a much lesser role.

I wonder what exactly was known in advance in Weber's case, to be honest looking at what he was able to do during the playoffs I thought he could still play again, even if it was in a much lesser role.
- Pat1993

They knew once the final was done he was retiring, nobody has really trying to hide that. I have my assumptions about what they knew about Price, Danault and Kotkaniemi at that time too. Instead we trade futures for Dvorak, sign Savard with term, Hoffman with term and a few role players who were sub NHL level.

If they committed to a rebuild then they could have used the goodwill from their playoff run as cover. Instead they not only choose to try and be competitive but they trash the goodwill in half a second at the draft. MB had a great summer of '20 and a miserable summer of '21