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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
But don't you want to feel confident that your GM is getting the right advice? Looking at these 4 senior advisors, I'm not confident of this at all!
- jd250


Anyone who doesn't think that the senior advisors don't have influence are kidding themselves. They all need to go and the hockey department needs to be completely revamped and they need to change how they do everything. It's blatantly clear.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
He doesn't have to go into the office day to day to cause a lot of damage. The wrong piece of advice at the wrong time is enough to throw the ship off course.
- Tomahawk


again, i think you are blowing it out of proportion. But whatevz
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jan 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
He doesn't have to go into the office day to day to cause a lot of damage. The wrong piece of advice at the wrong time is enough to throw the ship off course.
- Tomahawk

Seems obvious enough. The fact that he was not sanctioned for his little PR stunt last week says it all.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:22 PM ET
These advisors don't just influence the sitting GM tho. They're in Dave Scott's ear, they're in the President of Hockey Ops' ear (before when the roles were separated), they're in the ear of the other department heads and scouts, the coaches, etc.

We know 100% that Clarke had a hand in Fletcher being hired, and probably Hexy being fired. Just that alone illustrates how big of a shadow these old timers are allowed to cast over the franchise, even in retirement.

- Tomahawk



Exactly. Some aren't paying attention.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
I know right? I would have called up Foerster, Wisdom, Ratcliffe, Sandin, or Allison.
- MBFlyerfan


Nah. Makes more sense to have Allison continue to get re-injured in the minors.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
Seems obvious enough. The fact that he was not sanctioned for his little PR stunt last week says it all.
- iamscore2day


Most likely calculated among numerous employees of the hockey department.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
That's another bullet that needs to be dodged.

Bring in young, fresh blood. We need novel solutions to solve all of these persistent problems. Not the same stupid ass way of thinking and doing things.

- Tomahawk


Not a hard concept. Yet will not happen.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
Exactly. Some aren't paying attention.
- MJL


If clarke had a hand in Ronnie getting fired, then clarke should get a raise. It was the right move, just 2 years too late....maybe 3
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Most likely calculated among numerous employees of the hockey department.
- MJL

Still with the false BS narrative, He gave an interview about his career. Then answered a simple question. Yeah that huge minute he talked about the former GM was def calculated.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
Still with the false BS narrative, He gave an interview about his career. Then answered a simple question. Yeah that huge minute he talked about the former GM was def calculated.
- hello it's me 2050


I know right. It didnt fit their story, so they are spinning it anyway they want. PRob didnt even listen to it. I loved the part about Paul Henderson calling him.....that was the best. And some good keenan insight.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
I don’t think there is a team in the league that would be willing to trade their entire roster/prospects for ours. We very much might be the absolute worst situation league wide. Imagine they extend Risto...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
I don’t think there is a team in the league that would be willing to trade their entire roster/prospects for ours. We very much might be the absolute worst situation league wide. Imagine they extend Risto...
- ClaudeFather


I think Colorado would. They have that stiff NAK skating a regular shift for them.


jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
You tell me how much he takes their advice and i'll tell you how soon they need to get rid of them. I think homer may be occassionally, Clarke....next to never. Its just to give him a pay, and some free flights back to philly. Thats about it.
- bradster

But that is my point. What was Clarke's number one complaint of Hextall, that he shut his door and made decisions in a vacuum, right? So Fletcher is supposed to be different, he is supposed to be working with his staff right? If I were a GM I would seek advice from my staff before I pulled the trigger on anything major. So that's my point, who is Fletcher talking to? I hope its not Homer, Clarke and Barber?
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Jan 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
I am actually glad I wont be able to watch this unwatchable, non competitive mess that has become the Philadelphia Flyers.

As has been said, this franchise needs a complete tear down from top to bottom. Nothing should be left out or ignored.

The entire organizational philosophy is outdated. Enough of drafting "Flyers type" players. It is obvious that those kinds of players can not compete in today's NHL.

Its made all the worse by the way this team continues to develop the players they DO have.

Everything must go. Build around the goalie. Change the scouts, the coaches, the training staff, the ownership. A Flyerfire sale.

I've watched this team religiously through all sorts of bad stretches, but this one has worn me out.

- MBFlyerfan
My friend thanks for saying exactly what I've been thinking today. Hard to believe but this is the first time I'm glad to not watch them...pretty sad.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 18 @ 3:39 PM ET
Nah. Makes more sense to have Allison continue to get re-injured in the minors.
- PLindbergh31

speaking on injuries, I saw York take a big hit behind his own net in the 3rd yesterday. He got right up, but if he keeps taking hits like this he will be injured soon enough.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
I think Colorado would. They have that stiff NAK skating a regular shift for them.
- PLindbergh31

Well at least we changed the culture this off season . When G is sent off there will be nothing left but Hayes and his butt buddies
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
speaking on injuries, I saw York take a big hit behind his own net in the 3rd yesterday. He got right up, but if he keeps taking hits like this he will be injured soon enough.
- jd250

Great analysis
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
But that is my point. What was Clarke's number one complaint of Hextall, that he shut his door and made decisions in a vacuum, right? So Fletcher is supposed to be different, he is supposed to be working with his staff right? If I were a GM I would seek advice from my staff before I pulled the trigger on anything major. So that's my point, who is Fletcher talking to? I hope its not Homer, Clarke and Barber?
- jd250


Clarke's complaint is that he was shut out along with the rest of the alumni and country club members. Any notion that Hextall did not work with his direct staff and scouts is unfounded and ridiculous.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
Flyers trade Claude Giroux (50% retained-$4.1375m) to Arizona for future considerations

Arizona trades Claude Giroux (50% retained-$2.06m) to Colorado for 2024 3rd Round Pick

Colorado trades RHD Justin Barron, C Alex Newhook, and a 2023 1st round pick (top 5 protected) to the Flyers
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
Flyers trade Claude Giroux (50% retained) and Linus Sandin to the Senators for LHD Jake Sanderson, LW Ridly Greig and a 2023 1st round pick (top 1 protected)

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
Clarke's complaint is that he was shut out along with the rest of the alumni and country club members. Any notion that Hextall did not work with his direct staff and scouts is unfounded and ridiculous.
- MJL

Which proves your dad had full control. He failed. Enough already.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:47 PM ET
I don’t think there is a team in the league that would be willing to trade their entire roster/prospects for ours. We very much might be the absolute worst situation league wide. Imagine they extend Risto...
- ClaudeFather


I'm sure there are no shortage of individual bad players on bad contracts that teams would love to shed to add guys like Ivan, TK, Sanheim, Hart, Coots, etc. Just charge em draft picks/prospects/younger players to do it and go from there.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 18 @ 3:49 PM ET
ESPN+ / Hulu Live exclusive again tonight?

ponderous...franking ponderous

- Scoob



ugh!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 18 @ 3:49 PM ET
I'm sure there are no shortage of individual bad players on bad contracts that teams would love to shed to add guys like Ivan, TK, Sanheim, Hart, Coots, etc. Just charge em draft picks/prospects/younger players to do it and go from there.
- Tomahawk

Yes, but I meant like a straight up organization swap lol
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 18 @ 3:51 PM ET
G for Studnicka it is. Get it done Chuck
- bradster


Is this Stefan Ruzika in disguise?
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