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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
Stop, you'll give Fido an heart attack
- Xizord

I can't wait for the press conference annoncing the new gm where I am sure they will be asked about who does what on that tag team.

you guys think gm around the league do nothing? it's all the big bosses doing everything. Shanahan, Burke... they decide it all ! Dubas and Hextall play solitaire all day.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
I can't wait for the press conference annoncing the new gm where I am sure they will be asked about who does what on that tag team.

you guys think gm around the league do nothing? it's all the big bosses doing everything. Shanahan, Burke... they decide it all ! Dubas and Hextall play solitaire all day.

- fidopro

According to Bobby Clarke, Hextall ignores everybody else in the building and may as well have all the roles and titles himself because that's how he runs his shop. Not like those comments by Clarke were self serving and designed to paint him and Fletcher in a more positive light...no chance of that
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 17 @ 2:25 PM ET

- Takemedrunkimhome



not sure I get what you mean with the gif in this context lol
fidopro
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Jan 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
According to Bobby Clarke, Hextall ignores everybody else in the building and may as well have all the roles and titles himself because that's how he runs his shop. Not like those comments by Clarke were self serving and designed to paint him and Fletcher in a more positive light...no chance of that
- Takemedrunkimhome

oh I'm not saying Hextall is a good gm, I'm saying gms run the team, not Pres of hockey ops.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
not sure I get what you mean with the gif in this context lol
- Pat1993

Because communicating with the media shouldn't be the thing people care about when hiring a GM. Is Lou Lams a good communicator with the media? Nope...but he does win a LOT. I'd take a (frank)ing mute who refuses to sign if they can build a winning team
Mashadar
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Jan 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
oh I'm not saying Hextall is a good gm, I'm saying gms run the team, not Pres of hockey ops.
- fidopro


I'm sure the new GM will be able to select more than the brand of coffee in the office, but likely will be more focused on the day to day things.

Gorton is running this show.

Can't be more clear.
Mashadar
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Jan 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Because communicating with the media shouldn't be the thing people care about when hiring a GM. Is Lou Lams a good communicator with the media? Nope...but he does win a LOT. I'd take a (frank)ing mute who refuses to sign if they can build a winning team
- Takemedrunkimhome


... enter Gorton.


pete26
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
here we go..
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 17 @ 2:34 PM ET
wooo!
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
oh I'm not saying Hextall is a good gm, I'm saying gms run the team, not Pres of hockey ops.
- fidopro

Lots of organizations have different make ups and power structures but for those on the Gorton will do everything and run the show camp my question is simply why would anybody really want that job then? If you're just a puppet everybody will know so why take your career down that path?

My guess is Gorton runs it like the NYR where he works with a green GM and they delegate responsibilities. If Hughes for an example I imagine those contract negotiation experiences will be helpful. I imagine he'd have thoughts on player development from his experiences. And while Hughes is getting up to speed on drafting and trades for example, Gorton can take the lead until Hughes is on the same page.
Pat1993
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Jan 17 @ 2:37 PM ET
Because communicating with the media shouldn't be the thing people care about when hiring a GM. Is Lou Lams a good communicator with the media? Nope...but he does win a LOT. I'd take a (frank)ing mute who refuses to sign if they can build a winning team
- Takemedrunkimhome



never said it should be a hiring criteria, I was talking about him managing expectations and be well understood enough by the fanbase so that they don't have a terrible opinion of him from the get go.
Pat1993
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Jan 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
I'm sure the new GM will be able to select more than the brand of coffee in the office, but likely will be more focused on the day to day things.

Gorton is running this show.

Can't be more clear.

- Mashadar



oh, the puppet thing again? yeah I don't find it's that clear lol
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
never said it should be a hiring criteria, I was talking about him managing expectations and be well understood enough by the fanbase so that they don't have a terrible opinion of him from the get go.
- Pat1993

Meh...build a winner and fans will have the right opinion. Cater to the non winning stuff and you may have a popular GM and a loser all at the same time. Winning fixes EVERYTHING
Pat1993
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Jan 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
wooo!
- kicksave856



DoubleDown
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Jan 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
oh I'm not saying Hextall is a good gm, I'm saying gms run the team, not Pres of hockey ops.
- fidopro


my assumption is that it will be Gorton's blueprint, and the GM's job to execute it. i'm sure the GM will have autonomy. waiver pick ups, trading guys like Ben Chiarot, etc. but on bigger, more strategic moves it will be collaboration.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jan 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
Meh...build a winner and fans will have the right opinion. Cater to the non winning stuff and you may have a popular GM and a loser all at the same time. Winning fixes EVERYTHING
- Takemedrunkimhome



yeah I was talking from his own perspective, but it's all good.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 17 @ 2:43 PM ET
wooo!
- kicksave856

hihihi
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 17 @ 2:43 PM ET
hihihi
- mr.peanut

oh thank god
Snots33_77
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Jan 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
Price starting knee rehab now after meeting with doctors.

Habs and knee injuries, what could go wrong???
Pat1993
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Jan 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
oh thank god
- kicksave856


AGalchenyuk27
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Jan 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
oh thank god
- kicksave856

kicksave856
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Jan 17 @ 2:47 PM ET

- AGalchenyuk27

aw. it's like a coffee sloth.
mr.peanut
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Jan 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
aw. it's like a coffee sloth.
- kicksave856

currently having one
Mashadar
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Jan 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
oh, the puppet thing again? yeah I don't find it's that clear lol
- Pat1993


I never said that.

I said Gorton will run the show, does not mean the GM will sit there and make coffee all day. But those expecting the GM to run the show are clearly delusional - when big decisions need to be made, it will be Gorton that has the final say.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 17 @ 2:49 PM ET
currently having one
- mr.peanut

i am also! omg!
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