What are you basing he does a good job drafting on? Can you break down his Wild drafts - hello it's me 2050
Regarding drafting in general, a few of the "misses" might be showing signs of life after all. Bobby Brink and Jay O'Brien seem to be posting decent numbers this season. Attard is having a solid year.
2020 draft could end up being an home run, with nice potential flashed by Foerster, Wisdom, Desnoyers, Andrea, and McClennon. That's the entire draft btw.
Now we know that solid college/junior careers do not ensure NHL success, see Ratcliffe or even Frost, but perhaps the Flyers recent drafts have some merit. Still early in the process to judge imho.
He's not better than Sanhiem or Provorov. If you played York in the same role that Provorov has been playing in, you'd find that out.
In last night's game, Sanheim CF% was 53.49 and scoring chances when he was on the ice were 16-11 in favor of the Flyers
Provorov CF% was 55.88% and scoring chances were 15-9 in favor of the Flyers
They had one bad exchange on an over play where Sanheim flubbed the puck that led to a goal against.
York's CF% was 37.50% and scoring chances were 4-6 in favor of the Isles
York has played well and should remain in the lineup. I especially like how he moves and skates the puck and avoids forecheckers. - MJL
He already played in that role here. He already did that.
Provs confidence is beyond shaken right now. He is a mess. Sanheim is what he is. Incredibly fast and incredibly inconsistent with 0 sense of urgency in his own end. That will not change.
Who cares who drafted who. It seems like most discussions here go back to what GM drafted what player. Then people dig their heels in.
Remember the reasons why Ellis is here in the first place.
1. Prov is not a number 1 d and never will be.
2. The number 1 d who should be here is in Colorado right now.
I blame Hexy and Fletcher for this mess and they need someone else to help them navigate out of it.
I'm open to the idea that York has made system changes. Tell me what they are and we can discuss it. - MJL
I think you mean Yeo. From what I see watching the games, the Flyers are possessing the puck more once they get into their system. They are generating turnovers in the neutral zone and counter attacking better than they have been. I think the Flyers zone breakouts have been a little better also, York using his feet has really helped here. I think the gaps are better also. The problem now is it seems to take the Flyers several minutes to find their game and get into a rhythm, hence the slow starts recently. I thought last night the Flyers were moving their feet right from the get go, but they could not capitalize on two early PPs and a myriad of grade A chances in the 2nd, and that is why they lost.
He already played in that role here. He already did that.
Provs confidence is beyond shaken right now. He is a mess. Sanheim is what he is. Incredibly fast and incredibly inconsistent with 0 sense of urgency in his own end. That will not change.
Who cares who drafted who. It seems like most discussions here go back to what GM drafted what player. Then people dig their heels in.
Remember the reasons why Ellis is here in the first place.
1. Prov is not a number 1 d and never will be.
2. The number 1 d who should be here is in Colorado right now.
I blame Hexy and Fletcher for this mess and they need someone else to help them navigate out of it.
This should be fun… - Joe Nardone
In my opinion your assessment of both Provorov and Sanheim is not correct. Provorov has been a #1 his entire career. He's not a top level #1 who can carry a pairing. He needs a strong partner especially with the team game that the Flyers play and how they consistently lose the possession and shot share battle and spend a lot of time in their own end. The Flyers also wanted a RH shot player for the first pair to partner with Provorov.
In my opinion your assessment of both Provorov and Sanheim is not correct. Provorov has been a #1 his entire career. He's not a top level #1 who can carry a pairing. He needs a strong partner especially with the team game that the Flyers play and how they consistently lose the possession and shot share battle and spend a lot of time in their own end. The Flyers also wanted a RH shot player for the first pair to partner with Provorov. - MJL
Just so I understand this you are a number one dman if you can’t carry your top pairing?
I suppose we have 3 more years and 6,75 million reasons why we better find the right guy for him to play with.
I think you mean Yeo. From what I see watching the games, the Flyers are possessing the puck more once they get into their system. They are generating turnovers in the neutral zone and counter attacking better than they have been. I think the Flyers zone breakouts have been a little better also, York using his feet has really helped here. I think the gaps are better also. The problem now is it seems to take the Flyers several minutes to find their game and get into a rhythm, hence the slow starts recently. I thought last night the Flyers were moving their feet right from the get go, but they could not capitalize on two early PPs and a myriad of grade A chances in the 2nd, and that is why they lost. - jd250
That all relates to how the Flyers are playing within their system. Rather than changes the coach has made. None of what you posted there addresses system changes. I think Yeo has made some small tweaks but otherwise the Flyers are playing the same systems overall. Seriously though, they're in an 8 game losing streak. The same issues remain.
Agreed. He arrived cause of covid and kept playing 20 plus minutes cause he made the most of it.
Frost, however has shown little with the opp that covid dropped on his doorstep. - Joe Nardone
This is really correct. Frost and York got a chance due to Covid and other injuries, York has made the most of his chance, Frost has not. Blaming the players he plays with for this is ludicrous! Zack MacEwen plays on the 4th line and look at the impact he makes to the game. Why can MacEwen make an impact on the 4th line but Frost cannot? If Frost was playing well, he would be playing in the top 6, but he is not because right now he is not playing well enough and doing what the coaches want. Its really that simple. York has earned the right to play 20+ minutes a game, Frost has not!
In the game last night, the Flyers lost too many PP faceoffs and lost possession, the puck got cleared and the Flyers lose about 1/4 of their PP time. - jd250
I agree that Frost was a little better. He at least showed up. As far as who he played with.. he had plenty of opp to play with better players earlier on. He just did not take advantage. So it’s not as simple as him playing w better players cause they already did that.
I think they gotta move him up too, but maybe he can just force their hand. At least a little bit. York did… - Joe Nardone
The season is lost though, there’s no reason to not play him on a scoring line. The organization should be thinking ahead.
Agreed. He arrived cause of covid and kept playing 20 plus minutes cause he made the most of it.
Frost, however has shown little with the opp that covid dropped on his doorstep. - Joe Nardone
Frost is not being put in the right situation. What an opportunity it is to play on the 4th line with McEwen and Bunnaman. Or Brown before he got hurt.
This is really correct. Frost and York got a chance due to Covid and other injuries, York has made the most of his chance, Frost has not. Blaming the players he plays with for this is ludicrous! Zack MacEwen plays on the 4th line and look at the impact he makes to the game. Why can MacEwen make an impact on the 4th line but Frost cannot? If Frost was playing well, he would be playing in the top 6, but he is not because right now he is not playing well enough and doing what the coaches want. Its really that simple. York has earned the right to play 20+ minutes a game, Frost has not! - jd250
Are you really this clueless? First of Zac makes zero impact on the 4th line.
1. Just so I am clear. You do not think they should have Frost in a top 9 role for 20 games to evaluate what they may or may not have with him.
2. You believe Frost on the 4th line with 2 slugs will give a fair evaluation of his skill set.
That all relates to how the Flyers are playing within their system. Rather than changes the coach has made. None of what you posted there addresses system changes. I think Yeo has made some small tweaks but otherwise the Flyers are playing the same systems overall. Seriously though, they're in an 8 game losing streak. The same issues remain. - MJL
Yes, clearly they are losing games here. All I am pointing out is I do see changes and I do see some positives, its so far just not been enough. Again, if you can't convert your chances you're not going to win many games.
An awesome display of putrid hockey.
I blame:
The Organization
The GMs past present and future
All Zamboni drivers
All coaches except the dude that sharpens skates.
The dude that handles parking booth 7
And the Hotdog guy.
Per script someone or team breaks out of some funk against us.
Next stop winless in_______I bet we make it to 13...
BTW Isle will pass us in standings even without even them digging into 7 games in hand...
The season is lost though, there’s no reason to not play him on a scoring line. The organization should be thinking ahead. - ClaudeFather
Maybe the organization is thinking ahead. Maybe they want Frost to demonstrate that he can play the right way before they reward him with top 6 minutes? That is how you develop young players, by teaching them how to play the right way and then rewarding them once they play the right way consistently. Letting them play top 6 minutes when they have not earned it is not how you develop young players.
Yes, clearly they are losing games here. All I am pointing out is I do see changes and I do see some positives, its so far just not been enough. Again, if you can't convert your chances you're not going to win many games. - jd250
You think that you see improved play. I would disagree. Regardless of that, it's different from obvious structure or system changes.
