Right now Fletcher is almost just as equally guilty. He has chosen to resign these players. Fletcher hasn't moved the needle at all in any positive way.

What will happen is Fletcher will stay as President of Hockey ops. Hire an ole boy member club GM.
- hello it's me 2050

If they do that, then I’m done. And I’ve been a diehard fan for 50 years.

Right now Fletcher is almost just as equally guilty. He has chosen to resign these players. Fletcher hasn't moved the needle at all in any positive way.

What will happen is Fletcher will stay as President of Hockey ops. Hire an ole boy member club GM.
- hello it's me 2050

I'm not absolving Fletcher at all, but when things go this bad for an organization it takes many hands in the cookie doe to make it go bad and Hextall has certainly played a part in this debacle. I wasn't a fan of the Fletcher hiring from the get go cause his track record in Minny was less than stellar to say the least.

If they do that, then I’m done. And I’ve been a diehard fan for 50 years.
- BiggE

Fletcher is really a glorified assistant GM. He does a good job of drafting but as far as building an NHL team and his player moves. He's just not anything special. I agree with your rant wholeheartedly and it's difficult for me to think that way.

If they do that, then I’m done. And I’ve been a diehard fan for 50 years.
- BiggE

you know that possibility exist....

Fletcher is really a glorified assistant GM. He does a good job of drafting but as far as building an NHL team and his player moves. He's just not anything special. I agree with your rant wholeheartedly and it's difficult for me to think that way.
- MJL

What are you basing he does a good job drafting on? Can you break down his Wild drafts

How does anyone in the front office or behind the bench still have a job ?

How does anyone in the front office or behind the bench still have a job ?
- ClaudeFather

Probably because they are selling 90% of tickets to each home game

What is sad the past few games is I think the Flyers as a team have played better, they are creating more turnovers, playing faster, generating more scoring chances and giving up less scoring chances. I think Yeo has made noticeable changes and they have shown some positive signs. The problem is the Flyers can't finish their grade A scoring chances and they are still giving up too many easy chances against, thus they continue to lose. At this point, its probably for the best so the Flyers can jettison as many vets as they can and get some younger, faster and more skilled talent in here.

I was at the game last night (I like to torture myself).

Not sure how it looked on TV, but:

Konecny played with energy all game and looked like the Flyers best offensive threat.

Hayes, if it's possible, looks slower live than on TV. I think they need to shut him down.

Playing Frost with Bunnaman and MacEwan is flat out ridiculous. Playing him on the 4th line isn't going tell you if he can play in this league. Play him in the middle 6 and find out if you have a player or not. At this rate, they're going to go into next year not knowing if he can handle a scoring role or not.

Yandle should retire.

He's not playing against the same competition. Last night York had a 37.50 CF%, 28.72 xGF% and scoring chances were 4-6 Islanders. He has played very well for a young player and is showing that he should've been in the lineup much sooner but I would not label him the team's best defenseman.
- MJL

Since entering the lineup York is better than Prov and Sanheim. Just observing when watching in person. His poise is well beyond the other two d right now. That my opinion.

You can’t pay a guy 6.75 mill w term and be desperate to find the right partner for him. He needs to lead this defense. He needs to make his partner better. This season he has done neither.

Those two guys were terrible last night in a very winnable game.

Sanheim is what he is a borderline 4-5. Prob a 3 rd pairing guy on a good team. Prov prob a 2nd pairing guy. That’s ok.

However, if this is a full rebuild they need to be at the top of the list to go. Has either shown any ability to play well in a big spot? Neither are top pairing guys unless the planets align and we can find the right big brother for Prov

The problem is we have been scrambling trying to find d that can carry the load here the last couple of years cause or previous inadequacies.

I blame the previous and current regimes for that.

What is sad the past few games is I think the Flyers as a team have played better, they are creating more turnovers, playing faster, generating more scoring chances and giving up less scoring chances. I think Yeo has made noticeable changes and they have shown some positive signs. The problem is the Flyers can't finish their grade A scoring chances and they are still giving up too many easy chances against, thus they continue to lose. At this point, its probably for the best so the Flyers can jettison as many vets as they can and get some younger, faster and more skilled talent in here.
- jd250

Giroux, Risto, Jones and Braun should all be gone by the deadline.
I would do Jones sooner than later and see if Sandstrom can handle the backup duties.

What is sad the past few games is I think the Flyers as a team have played better, they are creating more turnovers, playing faster, generating more scoring chances and giving up less scoring chances. I think Yeo has made noticeable changes and they have shown some positive signs. The problem is the Flyers can't finish their grade A scoring chances and they are still giving up too many easy chances against, thus they continue to lose. At this point, its probably for the best so the Flyers can jettison as many vets as they can and get some younger, faster and more skilled talent in here.
- jd250

It's really just been more of the same. Outplayed for multiple periods and then have one good period. Against the Ranger outplayed for two periods and then controlled play in the 3rd but still gave up goals. Last night, had a rare good 2nd period and then a poor 3rd period.

What is sad the past few games is I think the Flyers as a team have played better, they are creating more turnovers, playing faster, generating more scoring chances and giving up less scoring chances. I think Yeo has made noticeable changes and they have shown some positive signs. The problem is the Flyers can't finish their grade A scoring chances and they are still giving up too many easy chances against, thus they continue to lose. At this point, its probably for the best so the Flyers can jettison as many vets as they can and get some younger, faster and more skilled talent in here.
- jd250

You need help.

Giroux, Risto, Jones and Braun should all be gone by the deadline.
I would do Jones sooner than later and see if Sandstrom can handle the backup duties.
- rayc16

Don’t disagree with any of that, but who is making the moves?

I’d also put some guys in their mid 20s on that list. K, Prov, Sanheim. There is value there, but again who is making those moves?

There is absolutely no way Fletcher is back, but what happens since then? Why was he not axed last month…

I was at the game last night (I like to torture myself).

Not sure how it looked on TV, but:

Konecny played with energy all game and looked like the Flyers best offensive threat.

Hayes, if it's possible, looks slower live than on TV. I think they need to shut him down.

Playing Frost with Bunnaman and MacEwan is flat out ridiculous. Playing him on the 4th line isn't going tell you if he can play in this league. Play him in the middle 6 and find out if you have a player or not. At this rate, they're going to go into next year not knowing if he can handle a scoring role or not.

Yandle should retire.
- rayc16

TK leads the team is scoring chances, over 80, but has only 5 goals so he is struggling to finish to say the least. However over the past several games, no one has shown me that he wants to be a Flyer more the TK, he is working his butt off out there!

I was at the game last night (I like to torture myself).

Not sure how it looked on TV, but:

Konecny played with energy all game and looked like the Flyers best offensive threat.

Hayes, if it's possible, looks slower live than on TV. I think they need to shut him down.

Playing Frost with Bunnaman and MacEwan is flat out ridiculous. Playing him on the 4th line isn't going tell you if he can play in this league. Play him in the middle 6 and find out if you have a player or not. At this rate, they're going to go into next year not knowing if he can handle a scoring role or not.

Yandle should retire.
- rayc16

I thought Frost was very noticeable in the first period, stopped watching after that. The fact he’s playing with those guys and not playing in the middle 6 is absurd. What are they even trying to do, they aren’t winning. He should be stapled to a position and let the kid get reps .

It's really just been more of the same. Outplayed for multiple periods and then have one good period. Against the Ranger outplayed for two periods and then controlled play in the 3rd but still gave up goals. Last night, had a rare good 2nd period and then a poor 3rd period.
- MJL

Hi think he’s kinda right about the last 3 games. They have been a little better. PP sucks. Desperately need a qb amongst other things.

You need help.
- hello it's me 2050

Do you actually watch the games? I think you need help if you think this team is playing exactly the same way, because clearly they are not.

Since entering the lineup York is better than Prov and Sanheim. Just observing when watching in person. His poise is well beyond the other two d right now. That my opinion.

You can’t pay a guy 6.75 mill w term and be desperate to find the right partner for him. He needs to lead this defense. He needs to make his partner better. This season he has done neither.

Those two guys were terrible last night in a very winnable game.

Sanheim is what he is a borderline 4-5. Prob a 3 rd pairing guy on a good team. Prov prob a 2nd pairing guy. That’s ok.

However, if this is a full rebuild they need to be at the top of the list to go. Has either shown any ability to play well in a big spot? Neither are top pairing guys unless the planets align and we can find the right big brother for Prov

The problem is we have been scrambling trying to find d that can carry the load here the last couple of years cause or previous inadequacies.

I blame the previous and current regimes for that.
- Joe Nardone

He's not better than Sanhiem or Provorov. If you played York in the same role that Provorov has been playing in, you'd find that out.

In last night's game, Sanheim CF% was 53.49 and scoring chances when he was on the ice were 16-11 in favor of the Flyers

Provorov CF% was 55.88% and scoring chances were 15-9 in favor of the Flyers

They had one bad exchange on an over play where Sanheim flubbed the puck that led to a goal against.

York's CF% was 37.50% and scoring chances were 4-6 in favor of the Isles

York has played well and should remain in the lineup. I especially like how he moves and skates the puck and avoids forecheckers.

I thought Frost was very noticeable in the first period, stopped watching after that. The fact he’s playing with those guys and not playing in the middle 6 is absurd. What are they even trying to do, they aren’t winning. He should be stapled to a position and let the kid get reps .
- ClaudeFather

I agree that Frost was a little better. He at least showed up. As far as who he played with.. he had plenty of opp to play with better players earlier on. He just did not take advantage. So it’s not as simple as him playing w better players cause they already did that.

I think they gotta move him up too, but maybe he can just force their hand. At least a little bit. York did…

Do you actually watch the games? I think you need help if you think this team is playing exactly the same way, because clearly they are not.
- jd250

I'm open to the idea that York has made system changes. Tell me what they are and we can discuss it.

They have scored 2 goals or less 24 times in 38 games.

I agree that Frost was a little better. He at least showed up. As far as who he played with.. he had plenty of opp to play with better players earlier on. He just did not take advantage. So it’s not as simple as him playing w better players cause they already did that.

I think they gotta move him up too, but maybe he can just force their hand. At least a little bit. York did…
- Joe Nardone

York didn't force their hands. Covid did.

Hi think he’s kinda right about the last 3 games. They have been a little better. PP sucks. Desperately need a qb amongst other things.
- Joe Nardone

The problem with the PP is they are not attacking the middle of the ice to generate scoring chances. Over the past few weeks you can see the Flyers trying to do this, but they are too slow! The players are still not rotating enough to cause the defenders to move and lanes to open up. Yesterday the Islanders PK was very well structured, so if you don't move them you are not going to get openings and that is what happened. The Flyers zone entries have improved over the past few weeks, but last night took a step back, again because the Islanders are very well structured on the PK. The one thing that kills a PP more than anything else is the faceoffs, G and Hayes lost too many PP faceoffs last night. Every time you lose a faceoff and the opposing team clears the puck, the team on the PP loses 25 seconds, that is almost 1/4 of the entire PP!

The problem with the PP is they are not attacking the middle of the ice to generate scoring chances. Over the past few weeks you can see the Flyers trying to do this, but they are too slow! The players are still not rotating enough to cause the defenders to move and lanes to open up. Yesterday the Islanders PK was very well structured, so if you don't move them you are not going to get openings and that is what happened. The Flyers zone entries have improved over the past few weeks, but last night took a step back, again because the Islanders are very well structured on the PK. The one thing that kills a PP more than anything else is the faceoffs, G and Hayes lost too many PP faceoffs last night. Every time you lose a faceoff and the opposing team clears the puck, the team on the PP loses 25 seconds, that is almost 1/4 of the entire PP!
- jd250

When you lose a faceoff, does the other team get the puck or does the team losing the faceoff get it?