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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Has this been documented anywhere? I've tried finding mention of it anywhere but all I can find is that Terry acted like any other owner when it came to drafting a franchise QB.
- zdp1189


The Bills organization flew out to see josh in March 2018, before the draft:

Terry and Kim Pegula
general manager Bradon Beane
head coach Sean McDermott
offensive coordinator Brian Daboll
quarterbacks coach David Culley
assistant general manager Joe Schoen
It really wasn't an easy flight, either. Brandon Beane tells the story, according to USA Today:

We were coming in over the mountains, and the plane started just going like this," Beane said, bobbing his arm up and down. "Literally, our heads are going of



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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:26 AM ET
Has Pegullaville tried to de-legitimize the win over the Patriots from last Saturday night? Examples: Mac Jones is a rookie, the Patriots defense was missing key player, if the Bills had played the Broncos it would've been much closer and not a blowout
- RichardRoma

top 9 D points allowed include
pats
broncos
saints
cowboys
colts


I can't find those teams on the schedule for this weekend
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jan 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
top 9 D points allowed include
pats
broncos
saints
cowboys
colts


I can't find those teams on the schedule for this weekend

- homiedclown

But has Pegullaville still tried to de-legitimize the win?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:28 AM ET
top 11 teams in yards allowed per game include

panthers
pats
browns
bears
saints
broncos
eagles
cardinals

so 8 of the top 11 defenses in yards allowed are home this weekend

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 18 @ 10:29 AM ET
The only thing I remember is hearing that T-Pegs wanted Mahomes
- Stripes77


You really think the most "hands on" owners in sports didnt push their young first time gm and head coach into picking who he wanted?

They flew out and met with Allen, then when the texting thing came out, they spoke to him directly.
They were comfortable drafting him, because they "knew" him.

Probably spread the texting thing just prior to the draft ☝️
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Awesome
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
You really think the most "hands on" owners in sports didnt push their young first time gm and head coach into picking who he wanted?

They flew out and met with Allen, then when the texting thing came out, they spoke to him directly.
They were comfortable drafting him, because they "knew" him.

Probably spread the texting thing just prior to the draft ☝️

- Boss34


The story I recall is that Pegula did want Mahomes, and Whaley said he would draft him if he wanted him to. However, Doug Whaley and his staff also knew they were getting fired on the following Monday, and that McDermott and co. were just using that staff because they had all the scouting in place. Remember, Brandon Beane wasn't hired until after the draft that year. McDermott wanted to be sure "his people" did the scouting on such an important position.

This is all a long way of saying that Pegula did indeed want Mahomes, but McDermott talked him out of it, and Pegula deferred. Whether that's because McDermott took the job on the premise that things would be done his way, or he just made a very compelling argument, nobody can know for sure, but Pegula did defer to McDermott because he trusted him. He has never shown that same level of trust in anyone on the hockey side, and although hindsight is always 20/20, he hasn't really had any reason to.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
NEWS: Sources tell @DailyFaceoff that #NHL will no longer test asymptomatic players and staff following the All-Star break, provided Covid-19 rates continue to decline around the league.

Testing will only then be for cross-border travel (as required) and if symptoms arise.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Drafting 2 LD #1 OA is going to force a move, at some point...unless they are really comfortable with someone making the switch to RD long term. I'm sure it's on their minds.
- Lunaion


Not necessarily
Pitt has played Malkin & Crosby on separate lines for years
Obviously that’s a different position, but there’s no reason they can’t each play 25min a night on 2 separate pairs
Some would argue that’s actually ideal
And at the end of games, they could always be paired up temporarily if needed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:34 AM ET
they gotta upgrade that defense next year...dahlin is turning into a stud and joker has proven competent riding shotgun...that's not to say that they haven't had their problems both individually and as a pair, but they're trending in the right direction...after that?

aye carumba...bottom-pairing, maybe a no. 4 in pyssboi, but that's about it...

- Michael Pachla


Just looked at a mock draft that had us taking Savoie at pick4 overall
I think most here would be happy with that, as he’s a dynamic offensive player, and a center

Obviously we still need a long term partner for Power though
IF we can’t sign or trade for someone….
And maybe this is just wishful thinking….
Could we package something like:
Olofsson & one of our other 1sts (or both of need be?),
to get into the top10 & grab Nemec?
He seems like he’d be a great long term partner for Power or Dahlin

Idk…. teams don’t usually trade outta the top10
But just a thought i had
Bc getting Savoie would make one of our top9 forwards expendable
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 11:35 AM ET
Not necessarily
Pitt has played Malkin & Crosby on separate lines for years
Obviously that’s a different position, but there’s no reason they can’t each play 25min a night on 2 separate pairs
Some would argue that’s actually ideal
And at the end of games, they could always be paired up temporarily if needed

- jdfitz77

Think he's talking more making a move for a RD than anything about Dahlin and Power
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 18 @ 11:39 AM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1483464197308563461?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Awesome

- Buff36

I totally forgot Gilmour played for the Sabres.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
The story I recall is that Pegula did want Mahomes, and Whaley said he would draft him if he wanted him to. However, Doug Whaley and his staff also knew they were getting fired on the following Monday, and that McDermott and co. were just using that staff because they had all the scouting in place. Remember, Brandon Beane wasn't hired until after the draft that year. McDermott wanted to be sure "his people" did the scouting on such an important position.

This is all a long way of saying that Pegula did indeed want Mahomes, but McDermott talked him out of it, and Pegula deferred. Whether that's because McDermott took the job on the premise that things would be done his way, or he just made a very compelling argument, nobody can know for sure, but Pegula did defer to McDermott because he trusted him. He has never shown that same level of trust in anyone on the hockey side, and although hindsight is always 20/20, he hasn't really had any reason to.

- buffalofan19


I think GMTM was given the authority to pretty much do whatever
He just screwed up so badly, that (imo) it caused the Pegulas to lose trust in future staff
And frankly, the future staff had its hands full just trying to dig ourselves out of the giant hole gmtm dug for us

It seems as though they’ve blacked off recently, at least to some degree, and are letting Adams run the show
But trading Jack & Sam basically meant starting a new rebuild all over again….
so we’ll see how patient they are if we are still losing like this next season
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
Think he's talking more making a move for a RD than anything about Dahlin and Power
- Buff36


Thanks, that's right.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
I totally forgot Gilmour played for the Sabres.
- Atomic Wedgie

We could use a player like him right now
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
Thanks, that's right.
- Lunaion

I would hope that is high on there list. RD is a problem throughout the organization.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
I would hope that is high on there list. RD is a problem throughout the organization.
- Buff36


Yeah, of course
I think everyone recognizes our 2 biggest holes for next season are top4 RD, and a Vet goalie (of quality) to pair with UPL

Rumors (on here at least) of an Olofsson trade could bring back a top4 RD

There are some quality RD available in the draft,
even with our later picks
And if we go that route, there’s a handful of potential UFAs we could go after as a stopgap- guys like:
Josh Manson, Anton Stralman, John Klingberg, Justin Braun, as well as others
We’d likely have to overpay anyone who’s decent to come here, but as long as it’s not long-term i wouldn’t see it being too big of an issue
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
Early line is Chiefs -2.5

Seems about right.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:08 PM ET

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
· 3m
#Giants are interviewing #Bills exec Joe Schoen a second time, as @NYPost_Schwartz reported. The interview is occurring this morning, source adds, so the team is moving on this process. Could speed up from here.


If the Bills can keep Morgan I would be okay losing Schoen, they can't lose both this off season.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:08 PM ET
Early line is Chiefs -2.5

Seems about right.

- Atomic Wedgie


Basically a pick em game but since it's in KC they get the 3 points
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
Early line is Chiefs -2.5

Seems about right.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah, it’s at KC
So that’s fair

I think it’ll be a good game
Could turn into a shootout, where the team with the ball last ends up winning it
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:17 PM ET
You really think the most "hands on" owners in sports didnt push their young first time gm and head coach into picking who he wanted?

They flew out and met with Allen, then when the texting thing came out, they spoke to him directly.
They were comfortable drafting him, because they "knew" him.

Probably spread the texting thing just prior to the draft ☝️

- Boss34

https://buffalonews.com/s...964-3dc60895cf04.amp.html

Beane was in on Josh before Pegs even met him sounds like from this article.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yeah, of course
I think everyone recognizes our 2 biggest holes for next season are top4 RD, and a Vet goalie (of quality) to pair with UPL

Rumors (on here at least) of an Olofsson trade could bring back a top4 RD

There are some quality RD available in the draft,
even with our later picks
And if we go that route, there’s a handful of potential UFAs we could go after as a stopgap- guys like:
Josh Manson, Anton Stralman, John Klingberg, Justin Braun, as well as others
We’d likely have to overpay anyone who’s decent to come here, but as long as it’s not long-term i wouldn’t see it being too big of an issue

- jdfitz77

And the big question is if the Org will even try to fill those holes if they're planning to tank again next year 🤢.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/how-the-bills-front-office-arrived-on-josh-allen-as-the-teams-franchise-qb/article_013c597a-2b90-54d2-b964-3dc60895cf04.amp.html

Beane was in on Josh before Pegs even met him sounds like from this article.

- zdp1189


Well sure
He was obviously evaluating Allen all year long, watching his college games
And likely the same the year before

Pegulas still could’ve given their “stamp of approval” though,
and been like, “Yeah, this is the guy we want”

How exactly it all happened is just speculation though
None of us know the details & exact timeline
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
Yeah, it’s at KC
So that’s fair

I think it’ll be a good game
Could turn into a shootout, where the team with the ball last ends up winning it

- jdfitz77

Yeah, over/under is 55.

Weather looks like it won't be a factor, so this should be a high-scoring affair.

Gotta get Mahomes to throw some INTs.
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