Marchand is not a slam dunk but he has a case. Forgetting career totals for a moment and just looking at his peak output:

- Two-time first team all-star LW
- Two-time second team all-star LW
- Top 10 in points per game for five straight seasons (six if he holds on this year)
- Hart votes in each of the last five years (two fifth-place finishes)
- Solid-to-elite defensive reputation (although his impact is admittedly difficult to disentangle from Bergeron's).

Really, there aren't that many players with that kind of resume who aren't in the Hall, and there are plenty of HOFers who never peaked that high.

In the Hall you have plenty of guys who were never necessarily high-end elite (or were only very briefly) and never got a whole of individual award attention but played forever and racked up a billion points (Recchi, Andreychuk, Gartner, etc.). You also have your classic short career (or short prime surrounded by lots of lesser seasons due to injury or age-related decline), low career totals but really high peak impact players (Lindros, Forsberg, Kariya, etc.).

Marchand I think is in danger of falling through the gap right in the middle -- not quite elite enough at his peak to hang with a Kariya or Lindros, not quite enough top-line level seasons to get to those impossible-to-ignore career totals. Call it the Theo Fleury / Alex Mogilny zone.
- Sven22

Agreed.
He's showing potential for HHOF... but I don't think he's there yet.

A few more years like his past 5 and he's a legit candidate.

Marchand is probably the best penalty killing winger in the past 20 years outside of Hossa. If he keeps it up and ends up with 45 SHG's or something nutty, he'll probably have a case...especially after that joke of putting Carbonneau in.

Marchand is probably the best penalty killing winger in the past 20 years outside of Hossa. If he keeps it up and ends up with 45 SHG's or something nutty, he'll probably have a case...especially after that joke of putting Carbonneau in.
- AdamFrench

Marchand is probably the best penalty killing winger in the past 20 years outside of Hossa. If he keeps it up and ends up with 45 SHG's or something nutty, he'll probably have a case...especially after that joke of putting Carbonneau in.
- AdamFrench

Truth

Lindros is in the HHOF. Point difference is like 100. At 33 theres no reason to expect him not to pass him. Given the fact he is in the hall of fame it only makes sense Marchand would be
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

For me it’s not all about points. If Lindros and Marchand are available there is no question who I take……Lindros Every time! Not even close!

Marchand is probably the best penalty killing winger in the past 20 years outside of Hossa. If he keeps it up and ends up with 45 SHG's or something nutty, he'll probably have a case...especially after that joke of putting Carbonneau in.
- AdamFrench

I think Fedorov was the best in the last 30 years. He could win draws, pounce on pucks, go for a skate. One skill that most would never even think about is that if he got to a loose puck, it would end up 200 feet down the ice. Every time. He would never flub a clearing attempt or have a d-man hold the puck in at the blue line. If it was on his stick for a second, then the pressure was over.

Marchand is probably the best penalty killing winger in the past 20 years outside of Hossa. If he keeps it up and ends up with 45 SHG's or something nutty, he'll probably have a case...especially after that joke of putting Carbonneau in.
- AdamFrench

Dude is a straight up gutless predator. I don’t care how good he is. He plays to hurt people and history shows it.

Nothing but a POS.

No doubt Marchand is love to have on your team vs. play against. But at the end of his career what will put him in HOF?
As you see i still push John Tonelli:
GP 1,028
G 325
A 511
PTS 836
-/+ 221
PM 911
4 Stanley Cups
This guy was total Team player, along with Tournament awards, NHL all star, etc.
Where does the line get drawn? What is it that really puts these guys in the HOF?

If you can’t be a Gretzky then you wanted to be a Tonelli.
Go ahead and make the comments but until you watched Tonelli game in and game out save your comments.
- Tee56

I agree with you. Where does a great team player like Tonelli fit in the HOF Talk, Toughness great team player any role coach Arbour wanted him to play.

I think Marchand is crazy talented. I'd put him in the upper echelon of the entire league in regards to true 2 way players. I think it is a bit premature for this discussion because if god forbid his career ended tomorrow, he might not have the numbers needed for a Hall call. I think he is well on his way to the Hall and if he stays healthy and keeps doing what he is doing, he is a shoe in. Just my $0.02

Yes.

Marchand is a HOF if he continues this till he's 37.. Definitely..

[quote=Tee56]No doubt Marchand is love to have on your team vs. play against. But at the end of his career what will put him in HOF?
As you see i still push John Tonelli:
GP 1,028
G 325
A 511
PTS 836
-/+ 221
PM 911
4 Stanley Cups

Tonelli was very very good but not HOF good. Bossy, Gillies, Potvin and Trottier all played with John. Other than Gillies, the other 3 are miles ahead of John.

Jonathan Toews
GP 979
G 349
A 482
PTS 831
3 Stanley Cups
Conn Smyth Trophy
Frank Selke Trophy
Mark Messier Leadershp Award
Olympic Gold
Top Olympic Forward

Toews looks better. Will he get in?

Kane to the oilers is not close despite some reports. Nhl sent a letter to all teams saying pending the investigation into Kane he could face additional penalties and face a hearing with the commissioner. He was suspended 21 games for violating Covid protocol once already so he would be a repeat offender and likely face a hefty suspension. He could also be facing criminal prosecution for violating the quarantine act in both countries if he falsified his entry applications.

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RE: EVANDER KANE

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- TurdFergeson

Thanks for sharing this

[quote=Tee56]No doubt Marchand is love to have on your team vs. play against. But at the end of his career what will put him in HOF?
As you see i still push John Tonelli:
GP 1,028
G 325
A 511
PTS 836
-/+ 221
PM 911
4 Stanley Cups

Tonelli was very very good but not HOF good. Bossy, Gillies, Potvin and Trottier all played with John. Other than Gillies, the other 3 are miles ahead of John.

Jonathan Toews
GP 979
G 349
A 482
PTS 831
3 Stanley Cups
Conn Smyth Trophy
Frank Selke Trophy
Mark Messier Leadershp Award
Olympic Gold
Top Olympic Forward

Toews looks better. Will he get in?
- Minnyhock

Marchand gets in. He is one of the best wingers of his time. What wingers in Marchands era are better defensively? Are there any?

How many wingers are better offensively?
OV, Panarin, Kane.. who else is better?

Easy Hall of Famer and def better than John Tonelli. No offense to him. He was a perfect fit on that team and a very good player in his own right.

Marchand gets in. He is one of the best wingers of his time. What wingers in Marchands era are better defensively? Are there any?

How many wingers are better offensively?
OV, Panarin, Kane.. who else is better?

Easy Hall of Famer and def better than John Tonelli. No offense to him. He was a perfect fit on that team and a very good player in his own right.
- Joe Nardone

If Marchand plays a couple more seasons at a high level (which he has a decent chance to do) then it's probably not a question any more. He's in.

If not, he's this generation's John LeClair. Five-year window with top offensive stats, solid two-way winger, but arguably not quite bright enough for not quite long enough.

Marchand gets in. He is one of the best wingers of his time. What wingers in Marchands era are better defensively? Are there any?

How many wingers are better offensively?
OV, Panarin, Kane.. who else is better?

Easy Hall of Famer and def better than John Tonelli. No offense to him. He was a perfect fit on that team and a very good player in his own right.
- Joe Nardone

He needs to win an individual award if he wants in. He does not have one thus far, so, no, not a HOFer.

And he's not even the best winger on his own team. Pastrnak is better. Pastrnak has a better goals per game and points per game.

Plus Marchand plays with Bergeron, so of course his defense is going to look good.

LMAO this god damn blog

Brad Marchand is in first vote, like who's better these past 50 years. Hold my beer. I'll wait.

Dude is a straight up gutless predator. I don’t care how good he is. He plays to hurt people and history shows it.

Nothing but a POS.
- hehateme

Brad Marchand is in first vote, like who's better these past 50 years. Hold my beer. I'll wait.
- henny1953

Last 15. Ovi.

He needs to win an individual award if he wants in. He does not have one thus far, so, no, not a HOFer.

And he's not even the best winger on his own team. Pastrnak is better. Pastrnak has a better goals per game and points per game.

Plus Marchand plays with Bergeron, so of course his defense is going to look good.
- Wetbandit1

Your mileage may vary, but I would consider the two first-team all-star selections (named top LW in the NHL by the PHWA) and two second-team all-star selections to be valid individual awards. They just don't come with a big trophy.

Even if you're disinclined to count those, tons of HOFers don't have any playing-related trophies. Recchi, Oates, Modano, Shanahan (has a Clancy), Andreychuk, Sundin (has a Messier, gag), Savard, Gartner, Hossa, Goulet, Ciccarelli, Ullman, etc. A few others only have one or more Lady Byngs (Kurri, Kariya, Delvecchio) or just a Calder.

Marchand is obviously not in, like, the Sakic tier of HOFers and never will be, but if he gets north of 1,000 points by the end his resume would not be that out of place among the lower tier of just-barely-in guys.

That said, I agree that he's got his work cut out for him. Currently he's only 26th on the active career points list and will be 34 by the end of the season. For a guy with such pedestrian career totals you need to have peaked super high to have a good shot at getting in (Lindros, Forsberg, Kariya), and I don't think Marchand makes that cutoff. At this point I think John LeClair is probably the closest comparable from the last 30 or so years; he's not in yet and probably won't ever be.

He gets to make the hall of fame only if they make a plaster mold of his nose and get him to autograph it.

Also a life size cardboard cutout of him biting whats-his-face.

Maybe a robot version of him hacking some helpless dude while he isn't looking.


......


You know what, (frank) it, just put a video that alternates his goals and douchebagarey on loop and throw it next to Gretzky.

Brad Marchand is in first vote, like who's better these past 50 years. Hold my beer. I'll wait.
- henny1953

Alexander Mogilny

Marchand gets in. He is one of the best wingers of his time. What wingers in Marchands era are better defensively? Are there any?

How many wingers are better offensively?
OV, Panarin, Kane.. who else is better?

Easy Hall of Famer and def better than John Tonelli. No offense to him. He was a perfect fit on that team and a very good player in his own right.
- Joe Nardone

its not done by position, they take a maximum of 3 players per year. He has to be among the best 3 players eligible. Which just isnt likely. There are at least 20 active players that are way ahead of him, another 10 to 15 that are retired and eligible, but not yet in. Hes way down the line.

Crosby
Kane
Thornton
Ovechkin
Malkin
Keith
kopitar
getzlaf
Backstrom
TAvares
Giroux
Stamkos
Chara
Spezza
Letang
Suter
Hedman
Doughty
CArey Price
Mackinnon
Kucherov

all active and have a better case. Other guys that will have a better case in years to come, McD, Matthews. Several others will build better cases.

recently retired with a better case:
Lundqvist
Jagr
Mogilny
Sedins
ryan Miller
Pekka RInne


Even Daniel Alfredsson probably has a better case, and who really thinks he belongs outside ottawa?

Too many names ahead of him. and there are more.