Perhaps they should start with bringing in a whole new coaching staff first prior to tinkering with the line-up?
- TheUltimateJet

Sure, I guess so, don't ya think though that if this team was as good and deep as the hype it gets it'd be able to outscore its coaching issues sometimes?

Copp has also spent the majority of his career playing against other teams fourth lines, whereas Scheifele has spent the majority playing against other teams top centers.

Quality of Competition is a thing that many fail to acknowledge.
- TheUltimateJet

sorry ultimate, this is not true, copp has played primarily against the other teams best the last 3 year

Sure, I guess so, don't ya think though that if this team was as good and deep as the hype it gets it'd be able to outscore its coaching issues sometimes?
- JetFuel

It's hard to overcome some poor systems. Any good team is just going to cut off the lanes to the center/winger in and around the slot while the other two forward cycle down low. It leaves the only option of a pass back to the point, which we see the Jets do over and over. However, if the Jets don't then crowd the front fo the net and screen the goalie then the point shot is easily saved . Its why Lowry is stressing the importance of "going to the net". The forwards still don't seem to get this message and as a result, the puck gets recycled from the point back to one of our guys in the corner. It's a stupid system.

Do the cycle from the side baords and up to the top in an umbrella-like fashion like the Canes, Oilers, Lightning, and Avalanche do and you will score way more goals and create way more opportunites and quality shots.

A couple of notes for the Jets being destroyed by the Avs

1) Avs PP is #1 in the league and they use the puck drop method to the back guy who comes in with speed for easy zone entry . Jets did it only once. WTF ????

2) Also on the subject of zone entry. The AVs enter the zone with their top two lines by carrying the puck and then often dropping the puck to the trialing defenseman in the slot. Jets contines to enter the zone 90% of the time by shotting the puck in and then hoping to retrieve and then somehow create a play . It just doesn't work !

3) Burn the year of ELC. Perfetti is NHL ready

4) AVS are easily the best team I've seen so far this year. Similar game to the Canes. Both teams use the high cycle very effectively. Jets continue to ignore this trend.

5) Heinola should be getting the nod every time over Beaulieu ( who makes numerous mistakes every game)

Lastly , I suspect this game will be a major wake-up call for the Jets and its mgmt . I suspect some type of changes will result from it.
- jetsnation

The Avs also play the high pressure PK vs the Jets box with no pressure.

I was thinking that the Jets, who are supposed to be a faster team are just plain slow as molasses compared to the Avs or Canes for example. Those teams are just simply faster, faster to the 50/50 pucks, faster on the puck in the O zone, etc.

Jets are a slower team with some fast skaters like Ehlers.

It's hard to overcome some poor systems. Any good team is just going to cut off the lanes to the center/winger in and around the slot while the other two forward cycle down low. It leaves the only option of a pass back to the point, which we see the Jets do over and over. However, if the Jets don't then crowd the front fo the net and screen the goalie then the point shot is easily saved . Its why Lowry is stressing the importance of "going to the net". The forwards still don't seem to get this message and as a result, the puck gets recycled from the point back to one of our guys in the corner. It's a stupid system.

Do the cycle from the side baords and up to the top in an umbrella-like fashion like the Canes, Oilers, Lightning, and Avalanche do and you will score way more goals and create way more opportunites and quality shots.
- jetsnation

Oh I know the Jets systems are useless, have been saying it for years and never bought into Maurice hockey which is what they're still playing.

Still though they should be able to score more then they do even with the systems they use, constantly hear about high powered the Jets offense is yet they struggle to score, really doesn't help that it looks like Scheifele plays disinterested, the Jets top talent isn't as good as what the Avs and some other teams have, also the Jets bottom six is bad, needs to be flushed and replaced with better players.

The Avs also play the high pressure PK vs the Jets box with no pressure.

I was thinking that the Jets, who are supposed to be a faster team are just plain slow as molasses compared to the Avs or Canes for example. Those teams are just simply faster, faster to the 50/50 pucks, faster on the puck in the O zone, etc.

Jets are a slower team with some fast skaters like Ehlers.
- Old Flopper

I agree, the Jets are slow, other then Ehlers and Connor they really don't have anyone that'd be classified as fast.

They really don't play with pace either which is probably cause they're slow.

I agree, the Jets are slow, other then Ehlers and Connor they really don't have anyone that'd be classified as fast.

They really don't play with pace either which is probably cause they're slow.
- JetFuel

I see what you are seeing - the pace isn't there. I think it is not so much an issue of talent but some lingering complacency from the Maurice years. they are outworked on most nights - they can put together stretches in a game where they are on the puck, checking tight, winning puck battles etc but they are not a 60 minute team. Lately not even close to 60 mins.

Like him or hate him Wheeler is one of the hardest workers on the team and they miss him.

my hunch is that Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg and that in the name of asset management it makes more sense to shake things up by moving him out rather than Schifele. He wasn't happy about covid restrictions in Canada last year or this year and can't be pleased with the latest game postponments. There was some speculation last year about him being moved, i think we move him this year as soon as the right offer is there.

I see what you are seeing - the pace isn't there. I think it is not so much an issue of talent but some lingering complacency from the Maurice years. they are outworked on most nights - they can put together stretches in a game where they are on the puck, checking tight, winning puck battles etc but they are not a 60 minute team. Lately not even close to 60 mins.

Like him or hate him Wheeler is one of the hardest workers on the team and they miss him.

my hunch is that Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg and that in the name of asset management it makes more sense to shake things up by moving him out rather than Schifele. He wasn't happy about covid restrictions in Canada last year or this year and can't be pleased with the latest game postponments. There was some speculation last year about him being moved, i think we move him this year as soon as the right offer is there.
- 2.0

I agree. I think we could probably get a second round pick for him easily, possibly even a late first rounder.

I see what you are seeing - the pace isn't there. I think it is not so much an issue of talent but some lingering complacency from the Maurice years. they are outworked on most nights - they can put together stretches in a game where they are on the puck, checking tight, winning puck battles etc but they are not a 60 minute team. Lately not even close to 60 mins.

Like him or hate him Wheeler is one of the hardest workers on the team and they miss him.

my hunch is that Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg and that in the name of asset management it makes more sense to shake things up by moving him out rather than Schifele. He wasn't happy about covid restrictions in Canada last year or this year and can't be pleased with the latest game postponments. There was some speculation last year about him being moved, i think we move him this year as soon as the right offer is there.
- 2.0

I agree, they're still playing the same systems too but still think they could use some quicker skaters.

I don't question that Wheeler works hard but I don't think they're missing him at all, probably better off without him to be honest and I think they miss Stastny if anything, what an indictment on this group that they can't get it together without a couple 35 year olds, just more evidence that this group needs a bigger shakeup.

I really hope they move on from Copp at this TDL, decent all round player but it's time to change this forward group a bit and he's one of the guys that can go imo, the sky won't fall without him, there's plenty of guys knocking at the door for more icetime/responsibility and if they can turn a former 4th round pick into a 2nd round pick in whats supposed to be a good and deep draft then I see that as good asset management.

A problem that is shaping up here is that the Jets are starting to fall quite behind in games played as we get closer to the trade deadline. Hopefully, they make up the bulk of these games through the 2 weeks of the Olympics. However, if they start getting even more games postponed then they might not fully be caught up come the NHL trade deadline in March. That might then put into question whether to be buyers or sellers.

Also, those that seem to knock Paul Statsny should consider that he is +10, has a 54% Corsi CF% , and wins 55% of his faceoffs. Those are all at or near team-leading stats. You want him in your lineup. I think the improvement could come from upgrading guys like Toninato, Ves, Reichel, etc. Love to pry a Lawson Crouse out of the poop-show in Arizona ( 12 UFA's 7 RFA's) , but he is still an RFA

BTW....Surprisingly Svetch has very good overall stats and is still getting better.

I see what you are seeing - the pace isn't there. I think it is not so much an issue of talent but some lingering complacency from the Maurice years. they are outworked on most nights - they can put together stretches in a game where they are on the puck, checking tight, winning puck battles etc but they are not a 60 minute team. Lately not even close to 60 mins.

Like him or hate him Wheeler is one of the hardest workers on the team and they miss him.

my hunch is that Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg and that in the name of asset management it makes more sense to shake things up by moving him out rather than Schifele. He wasn't happy about covid restrictions in Canada last year or this year and can't be pleased with the latest game postponments. There was some speculation last year about him being moved, i think we move him this year as soon as the right offer is there.
- 2.0

Pace is the correct term and the teams pace is not consistent enough compared to Avs / Canes etc.

Btw, watched the Av/Leafs game last night. Quite entertaining and the Avs came back from 4 - 1 to win in OT. But, the pace of the game was very very quick.