https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/1470439468024975361

i know some people that won't show up at games any more
- 2Real

That’s good since they’re probably not vaccinated and wouldn’t be allowed in anyway. I’d hate for them to make the trip to the stadium for nothing.

Makes no sense at all. Vaccinated or not people should concerned about this type of stuff.

My wife and daughter tested positive for covid-19. We're unvaccinated. On day 8 of quarantine right now. Caught it from a fully vaccinated family member on the Saturday. The next day on Sunday we visited my side of the family. They all got tested and were negative. Not one tested positive. Us crazy unvaccinated weren't the super spreaders being advertised.

One fully vaccinated was hospitalized from passing out repeatedly and chest/heart pains. So far 26 people have contracted covid through this fully vaccinated individual that we know of. Of the 26, 5 people were unvaccinated, they're barely showing any symptoms at all.

They shut down my daughters class, her aftercare and the other activities she was involved in. They all have to get tested and quarantine now.

Now we've all had covid. We're not vaccinated. My wife has lost smell and taste, had chills for 1/2 day, that's it. My 5yr old daughter had a runny nose for 2 days. I had a cough and dizziness for 2 days.

Just my experience. I'm living it right now.
- dubc55

Hope all are doing well but please, don't give people like PT21 a pulpit to spread their rhetoric.

Makes no sense at all. Vaccinated or not people should concerned about this type of stuff.

My wife and daughter tested positive for covid-19. We're unvaccinated. On day 8 of quarantine right now. Caught it from a fully vaccinated family member on the Saturday. The next day on Sunday we visited my side of the family. They all got tested and were negative. Not one tested positive. Us crazy unvaccinated weren't the super spreaders being advertised.

One fully vaccinated was hospitalized from passing out repeatedly and chest/heart pains. So far 26 people have contracted covid through this fully vaccinated individual that we know of. Of the 26, 5 people were unvaccinated, they're barely showing any symptoms at all.

They shut down my daughters class, her aftercare and the other activities she was involved in. They all have to get tested and quarantine now.

Now we've all had covid. We're not vaccinated. My wife has lost smell and taste, had chills for 1/2 day, that's it. My 5yr old daughter had a runny nose for 2 days. I had a cough and dizziness for 2 days.

Just my experience. I'm living it right now.
- dubc55

https://www.forbes.com/si...id-spike/?sh=67f62cd076c9

I guess you wouldn’t want anyone from Middlebury college attending the games also, with their 99% vaccine compliance.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2021/12/10/middlebury-college-is-going-remote-because-of-covid-spike/?sh=67f62cd076c9

I guess you wouldn’t want anyone from Middlebury college attending the games also, with their 99% vaccine compliance.
- Robert's Plant

👍

Hope all are doing well but please, don't give people like PT21 a pulpit to spread their rhetoric.
- MJL

Whoops. You're right. Terrible mistake on my behalf. Just wanted to share my experience is all.

Whoops. You're right. Terrible mistake on my behalf. Just wanted to share my experience is all.
- dubc55

Whoops. You're right. Terrible mistake on my behalf. Just wanted to share my experience is all.
- dubc55

Ah too late, my good man. In my last pre-turning in peek, this sadly caught my eye.

Tell me something, which has nothing to do with politics or your sad infection: you here have long advocated for the Flyers picking high in the draft. This is in spite of players like Robitaille and St. Louis and Lidstrom and so many others carving out HOF careers while being drafted very late or not at all.

You do so presumably because while you understand you get nuggets of gold late, your chances of that happening are lower than if you pick high (or, in other words, getting star players is possible picking high or late, the latter is just a lot less likely than the former).

Why then do you have so much trouble applying exactly the same logic to the situation you describe? The vaccine lowers your odds of catching the disease, transmitting it, and falling seriously sick from it. These lower odds are NOT THE SAME as saying the odds are zero! No one has ever said they are! Just like you can draft a Pastrnak in bottom first, though unlikely, you can also get covid from a vaccinated person.

In other words, between two possibilities of infection, the more likely one and the less likely (but far from impossible one), you happened to be the victim if the latter possibility. Sad, but hardly unheard of.

Now, kindly tell me why you are able to make this distinction and accept it in hockey, and yet fail to make tbe exact same distinction in real life? I am intellectually curious.

Where does the mental logjam occur?

Ah too late, my good man. In my last pre-turning in peek, this sadly caught my eye.

Tell me something, which has nothing to do with politics or your sad infection: you here have long advocated for the Flyers picking high in the draft. This is in spite of players like Robitaille and St. Louis and Lidstrom and so many others carving out HOF careers while being drafted very late or not at all.

You do so presumably because while you understand you get nuggets of gold late, your chances of that happening are lower than if you pick high (or, in other words, getting star players is possible picking high or late, the latter is just a lot less likely than the former).

Why then do you have so much trouble applying exactly the same logic to the situation you describe? The vaccine lowers your odds of catching the disease, transmitting it, and falling seriously sick from it. These lower odds are NOT THE SAME as saying the odds are zero! No one has ever said they are! Just like you can draft a Pastrnak in bottom first, though unlikely, you can also get covid from a vaccinated person.

In other words, between two possibilities of infection, the more likely one and the less likely (but far from impossible one), you happened to be the victim if the latter possibility. Sad, but hardly unheard of.

Now, kindly tell me why you are able to make this distinction and accept it in hockey, and yet fail to make tbe exact same distinction in real life? I am intellectually curious.

Where does the mental logjam occur?
- PT21

Where does the mental logjam occur with you since you completely missed his point?

Now back to your regularly scheduled hockey programming! Sorry I'm not the smartest kid in class! Anyway, the Flyers need to win 2 out of the next 3, and then split the games with the Caps and Pens. That would mean that they need to win at least 3 of the next 5!! Thanks! Did Ellis fall off the face of the earth? I mean, I'm not even hearing updates about this dude anymore. Damaged goods? Inquiring minds want to know.

Where does the mental logjam occur with you since you completely missed his point?
- MJL

Which, according to you, is?

Now back to your regularly scheduled hockey programming! Sorry I'm not the smartest kid in class! Anyway, the Flyers need to win 2 out of the next 3, and then split the games with the Caps and Pens. That would mean that they need to win at least 3 of the next 5!! Thanks! Did Ellis fall off the face of the earth? I mean, I'm not even hearing updates about this dude anymore. Damaged goods? Inquiring minds want to know.
- Phillywhiteout

Dude, they "need" to win 0 out of 5.

Now back to your regularly scheduled hockey programming! Sorry I'm not the smartest kid in class! Anyway, the Flyers need to win 2 out of the next 3, and then split the games with the Caps and Pens. That would mean that they need to win at least 3 of the next 5!! Thanks! Did Ellis fall off the face of the earth? I mean, I'm not even hearing updates about this dude anymore. Damaged goods? Inquiring minds want to know.
- Phillywhiteout

Unfortunately, I could easily see them coming out tonight and laying an egg. I hope they come through and go on a winning streak but with this group, who knows.

I agree with this 100%

As far as GMs or coaches I feel like this team needs fresh eyes and a young coach who understands the NHL of today. The AVs and Ruffs haven't been able to adapt to the new way the teams are built and it shows, imo.
I would have loved to have Zito managing this franchise. He has made some sound draft choices and built teams for success everywhere he has been.
-Bob Habib

I think the team needs fresh players more than anything else. If Fletcher decides a major reset is in order and becomes an aggressive seller at the deadline, then in the off season I would like a coach like Lane Lambert from the Islanders, who understands Trotz's system and has been credited with sparking the offense in Washington from players like Kuznetsov.

Started with a flawed roster, made some moves and it’s still a flawed roster at the end of the day. The ghost and jake arguments are getting old, ghost sucked here and he wasn’t even playing under the coaches. Jake is a great transition player but the roster wasn’t getting it done with or without him and Atkinson has scored some goals. The Ellis situation sucks but he traded huge red flags for him. I’ve actually thought Risto has played well.
- ClaudeFather

I think there was general belief from ownership and Homer that this roster was ready to go and Hextall was reluctant to go to the next level, thus they fired Hextall and hired Fletcher. I think Fletcher has done exactly what he was asked to do, push this roster forward while not stripping the system bare. What has been proven decisively now is this roster was never ready to be pushed to the next level and the system was not as fruitful as was thought. Because Fletcher and his team has a strong drafting and developing record, I think they are still the best group to move this franchise forward.

I think the team needs fresh players more than anything else. If Fletcher decides a major reset is in order and becomes an aggressive seller at the deadline, then in the off season I would like a coach like Lane Lambert from the Islanders, who understands Trotz's system and has been credited with sparking the offense in Washington from players like Kuznetsov.
- jd250

That team was doing very well in regular season, had a lot of talent. It was chronically underachieving in playoffs. Closer to Tampa situation before they broke through. Like Sharks before they never did..

For us, thats not the case though, is it?

Unfortunately, I could easily see them coming out tonight and laying an egg. I hope they come through and go on a winning streak but with this group, who knows.
- Hextall271

Surely not getting my hopes up cause this team is capable of losing to anyone. Just hoping that they can make it interesting and go on a run cause I'm not the type that throws in the towel in December in a season that doesn't end until the end of April. Way too much runway to throw in the towel although I don't blame people for doing it.

Which, according to you, is?
- PT21

I think you should use your self proclaimed superior intellect as an academic and a scholar and figure it out. It's really simple. Otherwise, I'm not going down that rabbit hole with you. I'm going to stick to hockey.

I think the team needs fresh players more than anything else. If Fletcher decides a major reset is in order and becomes an aggressive seller at the deadline, then in the off season I would like a coach like Lane Lambert from the Islanders, who understands Trotz's system and has been credited with sparking the offense in Washington from players like Kuznetsov.
- jd250

They added 5 fresh players last off season. What is the best way to add fresh players?

I think there was general belief from ownership and Homer that this roster was ready to go and Hextall was reluctant to go to the next level, thus they fired Hextall and hired Fletcher. I think Fletcher has done exactly what he was asked to do, push this roster forward while not stripping the system bare. What has been proven decisively now is this roster was never ready to be pushed to the next level and the system was not as fruitful as was thought. Because Fletcher and his team has a strong drafting and developing record, I think they are still the best group to move this franchise forward.
- jd250

So you're alluding to the case that management made a huge mistake and that Hextall was correct in remaining patient? Fletcher had 9 years in Minnesota to build something and move that franchise forward. What did he build there?

I think there was general belief from ownership and Homer that this roster was ready to go and Hextall was reluctant to go to the next level, thus they fired Hextall and hired Fletcher. I think Fletcher has done exactly what he was asked to do, push this roster forward while not stripping the system bare. What has been proven decisively now is this roster was never ready to be pushed to the next level and the system was not as fruitful as was thought. Because Fletcher and his team has a strong drafting and developing record, I think they are still the best group to move this franchise forward.
- jd250

I think they realized Hextalls plan was going to take 15 years, and after 8 first round picks, had no studs in the system, and were not much further along prospect wise than when he started. That along with the toxic work atmosphere and treat past flyers like garbage. He had to go.

I think you should use your self proclaimed superior intellect as an academic and a scholar and figure it out. It's really simple. Otherwise, I'm not going down that rabbit hole with you.
- MJL

You don't have to go down the rabbit hole. You claimed to have seen a rabbit. All I am asking is you point it out. You can leave then.

But I will offer you $100 straight up that you neither did, nor will, nor can.

You don't have to go down the rabbit hole. You claimed to have seen a rabbit. All I am asking is you point it out. You can leave then.

But I will offer you $100 straight up that you neither did, nor will, nor can.
- PT21

On one condition. After I tell you what I think his point was, you don't reply on it? This board needs to be saved from your rhetoric. Not to mention that covid discussions should be kept off of here.

That along with the toxic work atmosphere and treat past flyers like garbage. He had to go.
- bradster

Translation: certain luminaries that used to enjoy undue influence and privileges were roadblocked to reduce the amount of noise and interference that the actual hockey ops people had to deal with on the daily here.

AKA, real culture change.


Good to know the country club is alive and well under CF.

Translation: certain luminaries that used to enjoy undue influence and privileges were roadblocked to reduce the amount of noise and interference that the actual hockey ops people had to deal with on the daily here.

AKA, real culture change.


Good to know the country club is alive and well under CF.
- Tomahawk

translating something that doesn't need translating lol.

Translation: certain luminaries that used to enjoy undue influence and privileges were roadblocked to reduce the amount of noise and interference that the actual hockey ops people had to deal with on the daily here.

AKA, actual culture change.


Good to know the country club is alive and well under CF.
- Tomahawk

Exactly. It's amazing that the many who thinks the team needed a culture change, rails against the guy who was actually trying to institute real change. Hockey wise, this organization needs to change the way they do things top to bottom. Hextall was trying to do that. It takes time. It's the old saying of those who can't remember history are condemned to repeat it. Here we are.