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Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
Doesn't Quenneville need approval from Bettman to return to the NHL?
- PLindbergh31


With the KB incident in the rearview mirror, I wouldn't want that scumbag near the Flyers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
With the KB incident in the rearview mirror, I wouldn't want that scumbag near the Flyers.
- Robert's Plant


You want Tocchet who was running a gambling ring as the coach?
Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
You want Tocchet who was running a gambling ring as the coach?
- PLindbergh31


Not at all. Never said I wanted him. I don't have any idea who should be next to be canned.

And running a gambling rink is pittance in comparison to blindly turning a eye to sexual abuse.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
You want Tocchet who was running a gambling ring as the coach?
- PLindbergh31


He's a retread AND an ex-Flyer.... checks all the usual boxes
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:52 PM ET
He's a retread AND an ex-Flyer.... checks all the usual boxes
- Tomahawk


Checks playoff record. Confirmed.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 3:57 PM ET
With the KB incident in the rearview mirror, I wouldn't want that scumbag near the Flyers.
- Robert's Plant

This is why I like Fletcher's approach to not try to fill the coaching position this year, just keep Yeo there and see how it works. The reason is its in the off season that CF will be able to have a choice of several good coaching candidates to hire, that is if Yeo does not work out. One example is today there is talk that Cassidy might be out as Bruins coach if they don't turn it around this year; if true Cassidy would be a great candidate to coach the Flyers. So its better to play this year out and make the decision in the off season.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
But they were a game away from the conference final. Why would you strip it down after that? Fletcher went into last season expecting the roster to build off of 19-20 and obviously that didn't happen, but I don't think anyone would have expected this disaster the minute after they lost game 7 against the Islanders.
- KGBflyers10


They barely beat Montreal and were pretty much man handled by the Isles. It was exciting the two OT winners they had but my immediate reaction after they were eliminated was "this is probably as far as these guys will go ".
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
This is why I like Fletcher's approach to not try to fill the coaching position this year, just keep Yeo there and see how it works. The reason is its in the off season that CF will be able to have a choice of several good coaching candidates to hire, that is if Yeo does not work out. One example is today there is talk that Cassidy might be out as Bruins coach if they don't turn it around this year; if true Cassidy would be a great candidate to coach the Flyers. So its better to play this year out and make the decision in the off season.
- jd250


When wholesale changes are made, likely this summer you'd be nuts if you want Fletcher making these transactions.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
When wholesale changes are made, likely this summer you'd be nuts if you want Fletcher making these transactions.
- PLindbergh31

Comcast needs to back the truck up to whoever the best guy available is. This has to be the richest ownership group right? And there’s no salary cap on front office jobs? Right? I don’t understand why this circus never ends
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
I’ll be the first admit that I didn’t want Vigneault fired because if you put a bullet in him, you gotta put a bullet in everyone. Today they took care of half the problem. Fletcher not getting fired and keeping his old head coach from the wild days is the most Fletcher thing he could do….and this is gonna fail too. The fact we weren’t in on Eichel or Laine is also gonna hurt because we have absolutely nothing to look forward to, to this point in terms of franchise super stars go.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 4:05 PM ET
Comcast needs to back the truck up to whoever the best guy available is. This has to be the richest ownership group right? And there’s no salary cap on front office jobs? Right? I don’t understand why this circus never ends
- hereticpride


I don't think so. The owner of the Winnipeg Jets is worth 40 billion.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Dec 6 @ 4:06 PM ET
Give us a break with Rangers rebuild, please. The league gifted them #2 and then #1 picks in successive years because it wants a winning team in NYC. That rebuild is not representative of what is possible for teams in secondary markets like Philly.
- iamscore2day

This post is (frank)ing hilarious! A pens fan complaint about the league “gifting” ANY team draft picks! You got your cups so move along little doggie the pens won’t be relevant for at lest 10 years!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
I don't think so. The owner of the Winnipeg Jets is worth 40 billion.
- PLindbergh31

That’s it. Back to Winnipeg
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
Comcast needs to back the truck up to whoever the best guy available is. This has to be the richest ownership group right? And there’s no salary cap on front office jobs? Right? I don’t understand why this circus never ends
- hereticpride


Money isn't really the problem. Vision is.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 4:09 PM ET
When wholesale changes are made, likely this summer you'd be nuts if you want Fletcher making these transactions.
- PLindbergh31

I disagree. Look at the Wild right now, they are a pretty good team, and that is essentially Fletcher's team. I am very comfortable with Fletcher at the helm here. He hired AV, it didn't work out, that happens. No one is perfect in any job, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't. But I believe he is a good GM and will eventually get this going in the right direction.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
Money isn't really the problem. Vision is.
- Tomahawk

Well I’m talking about buying someone with a vision lol
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 4:11 PM ET
Embarrassing. Hextall may have been moving at a snail’s pace but at least he had a vision and a plan. The whole organization reeks of dysfunction with no clear vision or path forward.

The GM saying they need an identity is kind of absurd considering it’s supposed to start with him.

- funmaster18

What exactly was Hextall's vision and plan?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
Well I’m talking about buying someone with a vision lol
- hereticpride


What were the priorities last time around for Comcast Spectacor and Dave Scott? They wanted a yes man and a willing collaborator.

Not somebody with a demonstrated track record of winning, or somebody with an innovative vision, or somebody with a lot of potential.

This is not an ownership group that is Stanley Cup or bust. They just use the Flyers as a feather in their cap to attract e-sports teams and corporate support or whatever.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Dec 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
I’m sorry that’s really funny.
- Hextall271


The visual definition of karma!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
I hope they don't get close to Lehtera's old locker.
- PLindbergh31


Omg. Haha the comedy in here is helping me cope with the state of the team haha
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Dec 6 @ 4:28 PM ET
What were the priorities last time around for Comcast Spectacor and Dave Scott? They wanted a yes man and a willing collaborator.

Not somebody with a demonstrated track record of winning, or somebody with an innovative vision, or somebody with a lot of potential.

This is not an ownership group that is Stanley Cup or bust. They just use the Flyers as a feather in their cap to attract e-sports teams and corporate support or whatever.

- Tomahawk


Tomahawk, I think you've got the Comcast/Flyers pegged. Corporate only really cares about ad and ticket revenue. Be good enough to keep those numbers up and if they happen to win, all the better but best not to focus all efforts on winning lest the revenue numbers drop off for a couple of years.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 4:37 PM ET
Tomahawk, I think you've got the Comcast/Flyers pegged. Corporate only really cares about ad and ticket revenue. Be good enough to keep those numbers up and if they happen to win, all the better but best not to focus all efforts on winning lest the revenue numbers drop off for a couple of years.
- Letterkenney


This.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
Well, it happened. AV gone. I agree with the idea of keeping Yeo and waiting to see how the season turns out. If big changes need to be made, it won’t even start until closer to the trade deadline.
I have rooted for Fletcher and AV, even though I was not sold on AV being a good fit as the big guy. I remember being shocked with how little time it took Fletcher to make the head coach hire and how few candidates were even considered. If the right guy wasn’t available immediately, I would have rather him give Scott Gordon a longer look. Financially, it was a big commitment that hasn’t worked out now. It was good at first until the pandemic stoppage, but things have remained off the rails since. I will continue to root for Fletcher. He should take some time to reevaluate everything.

Let’s go Flyers! Beat the AVs.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
Tomahawk, I think you've got the Comcast/Flyers pegged. Corporate only really cares about ad and ticket revenue. Be good enough to keep those numbers up and if they happen to win, all the better but best not to focus all efforts on winning lest the revenue numbers drop off for a couple of years.
- Letterkenney


Flyers are basically in the rut that the Leafs/MLSE were before they finally got a clue.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 6 @ 5:05 PM ET
Flyers are basically in the rut that the Leafs/MLSE were before they finally got a clue.
- Tomahawk


We can only hope they follow the same path to success ie continually losing in the first round.
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