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Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Dec 5 @ 3:37 PM ET
It's not a leadership issue. It's an overall talent issue. Quality teams don't have to have their A game every game in order to compete. They can play a structurally sound game and make a few plays and win.
- MJL

Agree 100%. The explanation harkens to Occam's Razor. For the scientifically inclined it is the law of parsimony. For everyone else it means the simplest explanation is usually the best.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
whew at least there's no way the eagles lose this game now
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Dec 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'm baffles at the state of this team. Really had hopes going into the season all would be better or at least in the forward direction. Last time we were this bad at least the farm team was showing promise, but the Phantoms look lost as well, Injuries or not somethings got to give. I can't even think of a single move or trade that would salvage the season at this point, this team looks so lackluster beyond a few players.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
It's not a leadership issue. It's an overall talent issue. Quality teams don't have to have their A game every game in order to compete. They can play a structurally sound game and make a few plays and win.
- MJL


Slow starts is a talent issue? That doesnt explain why we can play hard in the 3rd but start slow. How do you explain slow starts, weve been doing them for years. if it was talent, we wouldnt be able to pick it up in the 3rd
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 4:29 PM ET
Who cares. It's hockey. You play to stay in the lineup. I would've let him know when talking contract that if he doesn't perform, he will sit.
- MJL


His teammates and most of the other players around the league care, tho. Record is 12-years in the making and everybody is pulling for him.

Think of when Babs purposely benched Modano so he couldn't reach 1500 career games -- created a lot of discord in the locker room. And when Babs benched Spezza in his TOR home debut -- pissed a lot of players and people around the league off.

Those things created huge firestorms and no all-time NHL records were on the line. For better or worse, AV is just gonna have to keep playing the guy to keep the peace.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Dec 5 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'm baffles at the state of this team. Really had hopes going into the season all would be better or at least in the forward direction. Last time we were this bad at least the farm team was showing promise, but the Phantoms look lost as well, Injuries or not somethings got to give. I can't even think of a single move or trade that would salvage the season at this point, this team looks so lackluster beyond a few players.
- GPerogie

Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Dec 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
I'm baffles at the state of this team. Really had hopes going into the season all would be better or at least in the forward direction. Last time we were this bad at least the farm team was showing promise, but the Phantoms look lost as well, Injuries or not somethings got to give. I can't even think of a single move or trade that would salvage the season at this point, this team looks so lackluster beyond a few players.
- GPerogie


Not baffling at all. Very predictable actually. Middling for the foreseeable future. Sign g and risto and the middling just extended 🤷‍♂️Don’t trade coots after stupidly signing extension? Longer middling 🤷‍♂️
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
quote=Phillywhiteout]I really really really doubt that they're going to fly back to Tampa from Ottawa when they play in Philly at 6PM tomorrow evening! Makes no sense at all, but thanks for stopping by!!

Yea, I would change Ottawa to Boston 😆
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
Looks like pat brown is back in the lineup tonight. We’re saved!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
please don't lose to the (frank)ing jets
- 2Real

They never have in the history of NFL 😆
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
His teammates and most of the other players around the league care, tho. Record is 12-years in the making and everybody is pulling for him.

Think of when Babs purposely benched Modano so he couldn't reach 1500 career games -- created a lot of discord in the locker room. And when Babs benched Spezza in his TOR home debut -- pissed a lot of players and people around the league off.

Those things created huge firestorms and no all-time NHL records were on the line. For better or worse, AV is just gonna have to keep playing the guy to keep the peace.

- Tomahawk


Sorry, don't buy it. The team comes first.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 4:52 PM ET
Barkann way better than Hartnell
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 5 @ 5:19 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 12/5/21 vs. TB
- bmeltzer


I think the Flyers are trying to fight the obesity epidemic by not scoring for a case of Tastykakes
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 5 @ 5:38 PM ET
Barkann way better than Hartnell
- THE EVIL WITHIN
Barkann is a phuckin clown(so glad he doesn't do Flyers pre and post game shows anymore), but yeah, Hartnell has lots of work to do. Bring back Therien!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 5:41 PM ET
Sorry, don't buy it. The team comes first.
- MJL



Agree, but If even close they won’t sit him. Team is fragile as it is, each player will react differently, lord knows yandle has earned a seat
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 5:50 PM ET
His teammates and most of the other players around the league care, tho. Record is 12-years in the making and everybody is pulling for him.

Think of when Babs purposely benched Modano so he couldn't reach 1500 career games -- created a lot of discord in the locker room. And when Babs benched Spezza in his TOR home debut -- pissed a lot of players and people around the league off.

Those things created huge firestorms and no all-time NHL records were on the line. For better or worse, AV is just gonna have to keep playing the guy to keep the peace.

- Tomahawk



21 games to go according to my math....lol

So in other words, 22 games until Cam York gets called up for good.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 5:52 PM ET
Barkann is a phuckin clown(so glad he doesn't do Flyers pre and post game shows anymore), but yeah, Hartnell has lots of work to do. Bring back Therien!
- Phillywhiteout


Agree 100%

Barkann is a game show host, a bomb thrower who is trying to be Angelo Cataldi lite. Problem is, Cataldi is an even bigger POS than Barkann.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 6:08 PM ET
RIP Weinberg
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 5 @ 6:11 PM ET
RIP Weinberg
- THE EVIL WITHIN

link?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 6:17 PM ET
link?
- 2Real

sportspass.io
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 5 @ 6:17 PM ET
The total time they've spent in the offensive zone this game might out total the time of the 7 prior games.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 6:19 PM ET
Typical moose plays like Vaselinsky 😆
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 6:27 PM ET
UGH
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 5 @ 6:27 PM ET
When it rains, it pours.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 6:29 PM ET
Can't make this poop up.
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