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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:15 AM ET
Fletcher is going to give AV the next ten game block. 8 more to go
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:19 AM ET
Fletcher is going to give AV the next ten game block. 8 more to go
- Just5


Have they ever lost 16 in a row? Bill.......
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 6 @ 9:20 AM ET
If you look at the numbers from the game, it shows that the Flyers skated hard and played with effort. They just can't score for a variety of reasons. They don't play as a team with puck support. They play as individuals. Passing up clear shot opportunities and playing with poor structure. You can play as hard as you can under those circumstances and it's not going to matter. The also have a major confidence issue as individuals. Blame Giroux all you want for not being able to single handedly overcome all of that. This is the same argument that was made last season. Need to change the culture and all that nonsense.
- MJL
The fact that they are playing as individuals was brutally obvious last night. That's why I hate to say it, but this team appears as if they aren't being coached at all. Although I suppose when everyone is in a funk at the same time it can give that appearance as well. I wonder if the Avs will spot the Flyers a 5 spot tonight?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:22 AM ET
Look at Bryce Harper this year. MVP of the NL. They did not make the playoffs. Must be a lot of garbage time stats for him? Also, weird he leaves and the Nats win???? He must be a bad leader.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
Need to clean house (coaching). The lack of offensive production from key guys makes me think we have no confidence in our coaching/system. Its insanity to watch this team dump and chase and lose possession over and over again. i think the players all know this and it’s killing any team and self confidence. We can’t sit on our hands any longer.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
Need to clean house (coaching). The lack of offensive production from key guys makes me think we have no confidence in our coaching/system. Its insanity to watch this team dump and chase and lose possession over and over again. i think the players all know this and it’s killing any team and self confidence. We can’t sit on our hands any longer.
- arichardson22
The problem is how many forwards on this team have the speed/skill to maintain puck control into the other team's zone. I just don't see many if any that are capable of this and that is scary. Teams stand up at the blue line on them cause they aren't afraid of their speed and they force them to dump it in. Seems like a combo of coaching and lack of skill which gives me serious doubts about this team.....to say the least.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:29 AM ET
Have they ever lost 16 in a row? Bill.......
- mickel25


I think the record is 10, but I feel like it might get broken this year.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:38 AM ET
I think the record is 10, but I feel like it might get broken this year.
- Hextall271


I think they win one of the next two though. Law of averages and such.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:39 AM ET
The problem is how many forwards on this team have the speed/skill to maintain puck control into the other team's zone. I just don't see many if any that are capable of this and that is scary. Teams stand up at the blue line on them cause they aren't afraid of their speed and they force them to dump it in. Seems like a combo of coaching and lack of skill which gives me serious doubts about this team.....to say the least.
- Phillywhiteout


I agree and disagree; we lack skill (and finishing ability) but i think we have some players with speed. TK can fly when he’s on, Laughton gots some solid straight line speed, Farabee as well. As MJL has said at times, we aren’t slow when we stay skating/moving. I know some will disagree but we could really use Jake’s entrances into the o-zone. Both 5v5 and on the PP
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Dec 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
Why should Fletcher be allowed to make another coaching hire?

If Alain Vigneault is fired, it should be Fletcher right alongside him.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
I agree and disagree; we lack skill (and finishing ability) but i think we have some players with speed. TK can fly when he’s on, Laughton gots some solid straight line speed, Farabee as well. As MJL has said at times, we aren’t slow when we stay skating/moving. I know some will disagree but we could really use Jake’s entrances into the o-zone. Both 5v5 and on the PP
- arichardson22


Travis has some good wheels too. We just don't play fast. Is that effort? Occassionally we play with speed but not nearly as often as we need.

I miss jakes entrances into the zone, then his pass to the other team, and lazy backcheck
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 9:45 AM ET
Why should Fletcher be allowed to make another coaching hire?

If Alain Vigneault is fired, it should be Fletcher right alongside him.

- FlyerFan3260

This.

Speaking for myself and the I’ve never uttered these words before. Tear it down. GM, coaches, players. All of it. Identify which players are worth keeping. Foundation. Let the rest go.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
Travis has some good wheels too. We just don't play fast. Is that effort? Occassionally we play with speed but not nearly as often as we need.

I miss jakes entrances into the zone, then his pass to the other team, and lazy backcheck

- bradster


Who knows, but doing this poop over and over with no changes aint working.

Just sayin, Jake would be 2nd in points on this team. He has 18 assists!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:49 AM ET
Why should Fletcher be allowed to make another coaching hire?

If Alain Vigneault is fired, it should be Fletcher right alongside him.

- FlyerFan3260


Absolutely. Vigneault track record much better than Fletcher's.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Dec 6 @ 9:49 AM ET
This.

Speaking for myself and the I’ve never uttered these words before. Tear it down. GM, coaches, players. All of it. Identify which players are worth keeping. Foundation. Let the rest go.

- SuperSchennBros

It is a weird group. They just don't show up. What team has defensemen who don't prepare for rebounds or watch out for guys behind the net? This team is groundhog day way too much.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:54 AM ET
Vigneault has been fired. Can't wait to see who the new coach is.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Dec 6 @ 9:55 AM ET
Vigneault has been fired. Can't wait to see who the new coach is.
- PLindbergh31


TORTS please
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 9:56 AM ET
I didn't say anything about bringing in an old and recycled coach. What makes you think they won't or can't do that in the off season? Stating that this team doesn't have the talent to compete in this league is simply wrong. They have the talent to be a playoff team. I guess it depends on what your definition of compete is. This team has a player mix issue, some talent issues and a major coaching issue. Dave Hakstol got far more out of a far less talented team that Vigneault has out of the Flyers.
- MJL

I thought this team had the talent too, but the reality is punching me in the face every game I watch. Their PP is below dismal. They are averaging less than 2 goals per game for more than a month, in fact the last time they scored more than 3 goals in a game was October 27th! Like I said, fire AV and get the 2 week bump, but after that I don't see how it doesn't come back to this.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:57 AM ET
TORTS please
- DrMidnite


Better be an entire house cleaning. If one of the stooges are elevated and Fletcher is still the GM nothing changes.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 9:57 AM ET
From Frank Seravalli just now

Hearing #Flyers are making a coaching change. Alain Vigneault fired.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
Better be an entire house cleaning. If one of the stooges are elevated and Fletcher is still the GM nothing changes.
- PLindbergh31

You know Mike Yeo is taking the helm ...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
You know Mike Yeo is taking the helm ...
- jd250


So we get the failed Minnesota regime that sucked? Yeah, no thanks.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:00 AM ET
AV out and gone
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
So we get the failed Minnesota regime that sucked? Yeah, no thanks.
- PLindbergh31

I'm not saying I agree with it, only I would be surprised if they were bringing in an entire new coaching staff. However as I earlier predicted: "Multiple people said to keep an eye on Rick Tocchet as a replacement..",
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
TORTS please
- DrMidnite


Could have been Bruce if we pulled the plug sooner
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