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dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM ET
Seriously. Think about what he said. That they can't evaluate this team until everyone is healthy. There are only two explanations that you can take from that. He either is lying his ass off to the fans. Or he is a clueless idiot. Which is it?
- MJL


I think the correct answer is...both?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM ET
One of the most ridiculous thing that fans do in a situation is scapegoat players. As if a few of the players are the issue. Last year we had to get rid Voracek and Gostisbehere. Change the bad culture. This is a team wide problem. It's not one player. The coach is who should be scapegoated.
- MJL


My vote would be to bring in Fonzy. At least it would be fun to watch Tort’s head explode
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Dec 5 @ 8:57 PM ET
Bobby Clarke wouldn't be able to do anything about this either. Be serious.
- MJL


I hear you but I believe Clarke would have different conversations in the locker room and practice sessions. You need to do is lead by example and not accept this country club atmosphere!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 8:57 PM ET
Can Dim Jim Jackson even skate?
- penguininnevada

Phil Jackson could back in the day
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Dec 5 @ 8:58 PM ET
Phil Jackson could back in the day
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Never should have removed Kate Smith... bring her back !!!!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM ET
I hear you but I believe Clarke would have different conversations in the locker room and practice sessions. You need to do is lead by example and not accept this country club atmosphere!
- Hosher12


Explain to me how you don't accept it. Apparently being 2nd overall in franchise history in assists. About to take over the franchise lead in PP points. Top 10 in goals. Top 5 in points isn't leading by example.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM ET
Softball questions to AV
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM ET
Never should have removed Kate Smith... bring her back !!!!!
- hfc355

had to be cancelled
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
One of the most ridiculous thing that fans do in a situation is scapegoat players. As if a few of the players are the issue. Last year we had to get rid Voracek and Gostisbehere. Change the bad culture. This is a team wide problem. It's not one player. The coach is who should be scapegoated.
- MJL


It's rotten from the top to bottom. No disagreement there. Sanheim was blaming Myers for why he sucked. Pathetic. Then didn't address the big elephant in the room, his strength. We don't need those types of guys here. Getting rid of Sanheim is just one of many moves that need to be done.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
No Kucherov, no Point, no problem

We got a great coach -- as Bill likes to tell us in defending him - Jack Adam's award winner, took two separate teams to the SCF's but can't seem to coach himself out of am eight-game LOSING streak - that is roughly 10% of the season

Cheers

Merry Christmas

Where's the Tylenol!
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
I had to turn it off. Are they going down with the ship? Making excuses?
- dubc55

Blah, Blah, Ellis....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:03 PM ET
It's rotten from the top to bottom. No disagreement there. Sanheim was blaming Myers for why he sucked. Pathetic. Then didn't address the big elephant in the room, his strength. We don't need those types of guys here. Getting rid of Sanheim is just one of many moves that need to be done.
- dubc55


I's like to see those comments. Again, singling out any one player is absurd.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:04 PM ET
My vote would be to bring in Fonzy. At least it would be fun to watch Tort’s head explode
- Dkos

Torts and the philly media is a match made in heaven.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Dec 5 @ 9:05 PM ET
Explain to me how you don't accept it. Apparently being 2nd overall in franchise history in assists. About to take over the franchise lead in PP points. Top 10 in goals. Top 5 in points isn't leading by example.
- MJL


He got a point tonight so is that a success or is winning the game a success? Getting a point in a 7-1 loss, you can have that player if that’s what your about.

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:05 PM ET
Blah, Blah, Ellis....
- rayc16


Thought AV seemed pretty relaxed in is post game presser. He took the blame for everything. I wonder if he’s just resigned to the fact that he’s a goner?
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:06 PM ET
One of the most ridiculous thing that fans do in a situation is scapegoat players. As if a few of the players are the issue. Last year we had to get rid Voracek and Gostisbehere. Change the bad culture. This is a team wide problem. It's not one player. The coach is who should be scapegoated.
- MJL

I don’t even know how they fix this. It’s a total mess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:06 PM ET
He got a point tonight so is that a success or is winning the game a success? Getting a point in a 7-1 loss, you can have that player if that’s what your about.
- Hosher12


This doesn't make any sense to me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:06 PM ET
I don’t even know how they fix this. It’s a total mess.
- Flyers1218


I know how to start.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:07 PM ET
If they fire AV just to bring in Tocchet, I’m totally checking out on this team.

They need to sell and sell hard, if they can (probably can’t), and suck drastically for several years and hope for extremely high picks. Maybe, just maybe they can get some star power then.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 9:07 PM ET
Thought AV seemed pretty relaxed in is post game presser. He took the blame for everything. I wonder if he’s just resigned to the fact that he’s a goner?
- Dkos

He probably figures he has this week. Rough time to change coaches. I'm out of market and don't get to the see the pressers.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:07 PM ET
I know how to start.
- MJL

It’s coming, but it better not be Tocchet replacing him.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM ET
I's like to see those comments. Again, singling out any one player is absurd.
- MJL


You do it all the time. What are you talking about? Or am I just misunderstanding what your saying?
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Dec 5 @ 9:08 PM ET
He got a point tonight so is that a success or is winning the game a success? Getting a point in a 7-1 loss, you can have that player if that’s what your about.
- Hosher12


Oh by the way I hope he doesn’t want to end his career this way and plays more like “ The shift Claude “ in the Penguins playoff game!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:10 PM ET
You do it all the time. What are you talking about? Or am I just misunderstanding what your saying?
- dubc55


No, I don't single out one player for team wide issues. I don't post get rid of Sanheim for some apparent comments he allegedly made. The context of the conversation is important. Are we discussing the team or is it a conversation focused on one player? Or on one single play or goal against?
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Dec 5 @ 9:10 PM ET
This doesn't make any sense to me.
- MJL


Me either I can’t believe he would be more concerned to set a point record and not winning.
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