another day another boss
another another loss
if it was not of Allen
lower in the standings they would have fallen
- fidopro

also, this reminds me of a youtube classic lol

so Kent Hughes as the next GM hey?
agent of Letang and Bergeron who are both pending UFAs. humm

so Kent Hughes as the next GM hey?
agent of Letang and Bergeron who are both pending UFAs. humm
- fidopro

are you implying the habs might have an opportunity to sign one of those guys? wouldn't it be a bit of a contradiction though with a potential rebuild...?

imagine Bergeron in MTL, Pete would go absolutely nuts...

also, Hughes confirmed he didn't have any talks with the habs, but of course that doesn't mean it won't happen very soon.

are you implying the habs might have an opportunity to sign one of those guys? wouldn't it be a bit of a contradiction though with a potential rebuild...?

imagine Bergeron in MTL, Pete would go absolutely nuts...

also, Hughes confirmed he didn't have any talks with the habs, but of course that doesn't mean it won't happen very soon.
- Pat1993

many seem to be ready to sell their house Habs will do a full rebuild.
I'm not so sure of that.

like I said previously, they have many long term contracts on the books that won't be easy to trade. they could very well come to the conclusion that the short summer and injuries don't give a clear view of what this team can do. they could try again next year, with a few key pieces added (yes like Bergeron and Letang), and then if it still doesn't work proceed with the rebuild.

all these players with long term contracts would be a bit easier to trade since they would have 1 year less on them. and the cap should go up in 2 years, so if you eat one, that also helps.

so trade pending UFAs at the tdl, and wait for July to make a decision on the rebuild. they can't trade big contracts before summer time anyway.
if they decide no rebuild for now, see if you can fix it and give it another go. but fix it! don't try again with the exact same team. we know what pieces are missing.

it will be interesting to see which way they go.

and yes, Pete would probably call him Bergevin.

many seem to be ready to sell their house Habs will do a full rebuild.
I'm not so sure of that.

like I said previously, they have many long term contracts on the books that won't be easy to trade. they could very well come to the conclusion that the short summer and injuries don't give a clear view of what this team can do. they could try again next year, with a few key pieces added (yes like Bergeron and Letang), and then if it still doesn't work proceed with the rebuild.

all these players with long term contracts would be a bit easier to trade since they would have 1 year less on them. and the cap should go up in 2 years, so if you eat one, that also helps.

so trade pending UFAs at the tdl, and wait for the summer to make a decision on the rebuild or not. if not, see if you can fix it and give it another go. but fix it! don't try again with the exact same team. we know what pieces are missing.
- fidopro

Is there a fantasy world where Bergeron and Letang sign and the Habs become a mediocre wildcard contender? Sure, skip the gif, but why?

My opinion, a sober analysis of the roster, regardless of long term contracrs, will lead to a decision to rebuild. This roster is so far from being competitive that any honest observation would think a full rebuild is the only choice.

Is there a fantasy world where Bergeron and Letang sign and the Habs become a mediocre wildcard contender? Sure, skip the gif, but why?

My opinion, a sober analysis of the roster, regardless of long term contracrs, will lead to a decision to rebuild. This roster is so far from being competitive that any honest observation would think a full rebuild is the only choice.
- Takemedrunkimhome

meh, a good center and a good dman can go a long way. would put everyone in the right chair. not easy to find, but not impossible either. and it doesn't have to be Bergeron and Letang

many seem to be ready to sell their house Habs will do a full rebuild.
I'm not so sure of that.

like I said previously, they have many long term contracts on the books that won't be easy to trade. they could very well come to the conclusion that the short summer and injuries don't give a clear view of what this team can do. they could try again next year, with a few key pieces added (yes like Bergeron and Letang), and then if it still doesn't work proceed with the rebuild.

all these players with long term contracts would be a bit easier to trade since they would have 1 year less on them. and the cap should go up in 2 years, so if you eat one, that also helps.

so trade pending UFAs at the tdl, and wait for July to make a decision on the rebuild. they can't trade big contracts before summer time anyway.
if they decide no rebuild for now, see if you can fix it and give it another go. but fix it! don't try again with the exact same team. we know what pieces are missing.

it will be interesting to see which way they go.

and yes, Pete would probably call him Bergevin.
- fidopro

I'd be very surprised if they didn't opt for a rebuild, or perhaps a "retool"... changes need to happen, and I don't see how they could look at this team right now and conclude that it just needs a bit of tweaking to make the playoffs and maybe do some damage.

Is there a fantasy world where Bergeron and Letang sign and the Habs become a mediocre wildcard contender? Sure, skip the gif, but why?

My opinion, a sober analysis of the roster, regardless of long term contracrs, will lead to a decision to rebuild. This roster is so far from being competitive that any honest observation would think a full rebuild is the only choice.
- Takemedrunkimhome

I agree 100%, although at the same time I can't help but think that objectively evaluating this roster could be a bit tricky right now, considering the sheer number of injuries, and also the fact that a majority of players are seriously underperforming this season...

I'd be very surprised if they didn't opt for a rebuild, or perhaps a "retool"... changes need to happen, and I don't see how they could look at this team right now and conclude that it just needs a bit of tweaking to make the playoffs and maybe do some damage.
- Pat1993

what if they change the coach? what if Price returns? Weber?
too many moving targets to make a decision now imo, they'll be patient.

what if they change the coach? what if Price returns? Weber?
too many moving targets to make a decision now imo, they' be patient.
- fidopro

no no

what if they change the coach? what if Price returns? Weber?
too many moving targets to make a decision now imo, they' be patient.
- fidopro

Weber...? hmm... lol.

of course Price coming back would be significant, especially if he consistently provides solid goaltending, but his return doesn't really fix the cluster(frank) on the defensive side of things, nor the general lack of offensive production.

but yeah, I agree patience is key, there's no need to rush into things and take hasty decisions that they could potentially regret.

no no
- Takemedrunkimhome

no no, but if he retires, and Price asks for a trade... that change things a lot.
same if they hire a new coach. should be fun.

no no, but if he retires, and Price asks for a trade... that change things a lot.
same if they hire a new coach. should be fun.
- fidopro

it was confirmed that DD would be there to finish the season, but yeah I'm curious to see what they'll do with the coaching staff, I guess a lot of that will be determined with the new GM.

it's kind of perplexing to evaluate Ducharme's work so far, I know many in here just want him gone but with all of the circumstances surrounding the team I wouldn't automatically label him as a bad coach either.

it was confirmed that DD would be there to finish the season, but yeah I'm curious to see what they'll do with the coaching staff, I guess a lot of that will be determined with the new GM.

it's kind of perplexing to evaluate Ducharme's work so far, I know many in here just want him gone but with all of the circumstances surrounding the team I wouldn't automatically label him as a bad coach either.
- Pat1993

the way this team has played, even with all the injuries, leads me to believe he won't be back.

the way this team has played, even with all the injuries, leads me to believe he won't be back.
- fidopro

yeah, gotta admit that currently he seems to be having a very hard time maximizing the players' potential, both individually and collectively. from the stanley cup final to this... it's so messed up lol

yeah, gotta admit that currently he seems to be having a very hard time maximizing the players' potential, both individually and collectively. from the stanley cup final to this... it's so messed up lol
- Pat1993

also, Drouin will be a pending UFA a year from now

also, Drouin will be a pending UFA a year from now
- fidopro

he had a very decent start to the season, and for a while his play was basically one of the very few positive things going on with this team, but he's been quieter lately, just like the rest of his teammates.

he had a very decent start to the season, and for a while his play was basically one of the very few positive things going on with this team, but he's been quieter lately, just like the rest of his teammates.
- Pat1993

I've seen more than enough. not to many keepers on that roster.

I've seen more than enough. not to many keepers on that roster.
- fidopro

I might be a bit cautious of getting rid of a guy like Toffoli right away, since under normal circumstances his contract represents a very good value to the team, but yeah there's a lot of expendable guys.

I might be a bit cautious of getting rid of a guy like Toffoli right away, since under normal circumstances his contract represents a very good value to the team, but yeah there's a lot of expendable guys.
- Pat1993

the better the contract, the better the return

the better contract, the better the return
- fidopro

true, good point.

y'est pas fou, le cave!

Caufield needs a goal
- habs88888

He's handling the puck better, making better decisions, showing more patience and putting a few points on the board, the goals are coming

the better the contract, the better the return
- fidopro

Yup!


Toffoli could be one of their most valuable trade chips because of that contract and past playoff success

Yup!


Toffoli could be one of their most valuable trade chips because of that contract and past playoff success
- OB

It won’t be easy to do, but a total rebuild is needed. Other then Suzuki Romanov and caufield, every player should be considered to be traded. Some contracts aren’t tradable so you are likely stuck with them for the long haul. It’s been proven time and time again, best way to build a contender is through to picks at the draft.

It won’t be easy to do, but a total rebuild is needed. Other then Suzuki Romanov and caufield, every player should be considered to be traded. Some contracts aren’t tradable so you are likely stuck with them for the long haul. It’s been proven time and time again, best way to build a contender is through to picks at the draft.
- cburgess

They can move any contract, term on some will make it so they'll have to take lesser return, retain salary and/or take salary dumps back with shorter term but I expect Gorton to go full rebuild