Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Tampa’s 1 C - 3rd rounder
Islanders 1C - 16th overall
Vegas 1C - acquired via trade
Carolina’s 1C- 2nd rounder
Florida’s 1C - 2nd overall
Boston- 2nd rounder
St. Louis - acquired via trade, 2nd rounder
Colorado - 1st overall
Edmonton - 1st overall
Toronto - 1st overall
Calgary - acquired via trade, 5th overall
Dallas - acquired via trade
Teams who have won, who have gotten close, or considered contenders this year. I’m sure I’m missing a team or two
Looks like a pretty mixed bad of ways of getting those players - sbroads24
So which team are we suckering into trading us a 22 year old Seguin, 24 year old Eichel, or an ROR in his prime ?
Also which team is trading them to us right this moment to stop the impending fall to a bottom 5 pick ?
Do you have faith in this management team to find a 1C outside of the first round like Aho or Point ?
Barzal was a consensus top 5 prospect prior to getting hurt and falling to the Isles.
Barzal, Point, Aho also came out of a once in a decade type of draft class in 2015 (last one that good was 2003) |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Bro, the Pens went to the Final when Crosby was 20 and won when he was 21. The Hawks won when Kane was 22.
Stamkos was a non-factor.
Ovechkin was 32.
And in any event, Tampa and Washington had many great regular seasons, which don't matter according to you.
Eichel is 25 and gone, and the Sabres have been abject failures since 2013.
This, like your football takes couldn't be more wrong. - Wetbandit1
The Sabres tanked properly, they failed at everything else.
Go tell an Avalanche, Leafs, Oilers, or Panthers fan right now they would be better off without any of their top 10 picks on their rosters.
Just because the Sabres failed, doesn’t mean tanking hasn’t been responsible for multiple cups this decade.
The Penguins purposefully tanked for Mario and Ovechkin (managed to get Malkin)
How many franchises have had more success than Pittsburgh the last 30 some odd years ? |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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So which team are we suckering into trading us a 22 year old Seguin, 24 year old Eichel, or an ROR in his prime ?
Also which team is trading them to us right this moment to stop the impending fall to a bottom 5 pick ?
Do you have faith in this management team to find a 1C outside of the first round like Aho or Point ?
Barzal was a consensus top 5 prospect prior to getting hurt and falling to the Isles.
Barzal, Point, Aho also came out of a once in a decade type of draft class in 2015 (last one that good was 2003) - Pegullaville
They’re picking bottom 5 regardless. It’s fine.
I’m tired of hearing how fantastic it is. It’s not. And it’s not just gonna suddenly change because they draft one player. Wanna know how I know this? Because I’ve been a Sabre fan the last decade of constant losing.
They’re losers. They act like losers, make trades like losers, sign 40 year old goalies who we all know will get hurt like losers, and blow 3-0 leads like losers.
They are cool with losing games. It’s disgusting now after the last decade |
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The Sabres have 2 #1 pick D men, one who’s about to win the Hobey Baker (you can admit you were wrong on his ceiling anytime you want to, no judgment)
They have Quinn, JJ, Rosen, Kisakov Poltapov, Cozens, Mitts, Thompson, Krebs, as 22 and under Forwards
Tuch, VO Asplund, along with others and 3 first rounders this year
There’s nothing you can say that will convince me that continuing to purposely get demolished every game is somehow helpful
They have prospects and assets. It’s time to try and win games - sbroads24
You do get how strange it would be to deal all of their vets for picks/prospects (or simply let them walk), then turn around a couple months later and reverse course, right? You don't change plans when it's all going as planned.
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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You do get how strange it would be to deal all of their vets for picks/prospects (or simply let them walk), then turn around a couple months later and reverse course, right? You don't change plans when it's all going as planned. - Lunaion
That’s not what I’m saying at all.
I would make a volume trade for someone like Pettersson, but that’s it
There’s a gap between trading everyone to win now and going into a season with Tokarski, Dell and Anderson |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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You do get how strange it would be to deal all of their vets for picks/prospects (or simply let them walk), then turn around a couple months later and reverse course, right? You don't change plans when it's all going as planned. - Lunaion
My point is I’m absolutely tired of the management group operating like the losers they are.
And it translates to being losers on the ice |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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My point is I’m absolutely tired of the management group operating like the losers they are.
And it translates to being losers on the ice - sbroads24
What do you think of Stevie Y’s management of the Red Wings the last few years ?
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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What do you think of Stevie Y’s management of the Red Wings the last few years ? - Pegullaville
What’s the highest draft pick he’s had? |
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My point is I’m absolutely tired of the management group operating like the losers they are.
And it translates to being losers on the ice - sbroads24
They hired KA and went all in to win last year, without considering the future. It was bold and brilliant.
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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That’s not what I’m saying at all.
I would make a volume trade for someone like Pettersson, but that’s it
There’s a gap between trading everyone to win now and going into a season with Tokarski, Dell and Anderson - sbroads24
Why can’t the Sabres pick top 5 this year, and still have Vancouver on phone dial trying to pry someone out of there ?
What moves were the Sabres making this offseason to leap Florida, Toronto, and Boston this season ?
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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What’s the highest draft pick he’s had? - sbroads24
They finished dead last, and walked out with Lucas Raymond 4th overall due to crappy lotto luck.
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Baylor almost gave the Big XII Championship away.
I want to see absolute chaos with the CFP. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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You do get how strange it would be to deal all of their vets for picks/prospects (or simply let them walk), then turn around a couple months later and reverse course, right? You don't change plans when it's all going as planned. - Lunaion
Literally pin this post at the top of every Hockeybuzz page because this summarizes the last 10 years.
People can blame tanking, but last time I checked we started “trying to win” in 2016. Unless trading for ROR was a tank move.
Management and ownership are the reason why we are here. Not drafting Eichel and Reinhart whom are going to be playing on the top lines of two cup contenders this season |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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They hired KA and went all in to win last year, without considering the future. It was bold and brilliant. - Lunaion
Only in Buffalo is trying to win games frowned upon by some people.
It’s honestly unreal how it’s so far out of reality that this team should try and compete for 82 games |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Literally pin this post at the top of every Hockeybuzz page because this summarizes the last 10 years.
People can blame tanking, but last time I checked we started “trying to win” in 2016. Unless trading for ROR was a tank move.
Management and ownership are the reason why we are here. Not drafting Eichel and Reinhart whom are going to be playing on the top lines of two cup contenders this season - Pegullaville
Tanking in 2014/15 was the right move.
Doing it again 8 years later after absolutely 0 success isn’t IMO
I’m gonna die someday. I’d like to root for some good hockey.
If the timeline is “oh well we absolutely need Shane Wright, and we wanna compete when he’s 22-23 years old in 2026-27” this team can go (frank) themselves to be perfectly honest
For god sakes dude we just picked #1 overall. |
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Only in Buffalo is trying to win games frowned upon by some people.
It’s honestly unreal how it’s so far out of reality that this team should try and compete for 82 games - sbroads24
KA's first year was grossly incompetent, almost like he wasn't qualified for the job. What do you do after that? I'd fire him, but they aren't. Rather see them properly reset and develop some talent than sell us another overnight fix.
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Tanking in 2014/15 was the right move.
Doing it again 8 years later after absolutely 0 success isn’t IMO
I’m gonna die someday. I’d like to root for some good hockey.
If the timeline is “oh well we absolutely need Shane Wright, and we wanna compete when he’s 22-23 years old in 2026-27” this team can go (frank) themselves to be perfectly honest
For god sakes dude we just picked #1 overall. - sbroads24
Penguins fans of early 2000’s aren’t complaining today.
Oilers fans of the 2010’s aren’t complaining right now.
Leaf fans are enjoying watching their team, believe me I’m right in the thick of it.
What’s stopping the Sabres from competing next season ? Everything the Sabres are doing from a prospect perspective is 100% the right move, I don’t see what free agents they could have signed to make us respectable this year, stay the course and reassess in the offseason |
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Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 03.17.2021
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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KA's first year was grossly incompetent, almost like he wasn't qualified for the job. What do you do after that? I'd fire him, but they aren't. Rather see them properly reset and develop some talent than sell us another overnight fix. - Lunaion
I think you can properly do this AND act like now is important
I mean seriously it’s not hard over 50% of the league makes the playoffs and we’re not even asking for that |
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I think you can properly do this AND act like now is important
I mean seriously it’s not hard over 50% of the league makes the playoffs and we’re not even asking for that - sbroads24
After you mess up pretty much every meaningful veteran contract, I'm not so sure you can. They dug an impressive hole.
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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What’s up fvckers? - dadeadhead
Dell’s GAA |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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After you mess up pretty much every meaningful veteran contract, I'm not so sure you can. They dug an impressive hole. - Lunaion
Again, I’m not asking for them to go all in every year or dig into the prospects to make a run to 10th place
But they certainly aren’t acting like wins matter and it’s a joke to me |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Penguins fans of early 2000’s aren’t complaining today.
Oilers fans of the 2010’s aren’t complaining right now.
Leaf fans are enjoying watching their team, believe me I’m right in the thick of it.
What’s stopping the Sabres from competing next season ? Everything the Sabres are doing from a prospect perspective is 100% the right move, I don’t see what free agents they could have signed to make us respectable this year, stay the course and reassess in the offseason - Pegullaville
A) They should be according to you.
B) They also should not enjoy watching the Leafs because they can't win A round, let alone the 4 that are needed. Again, according to you. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Baylor almost gave the Big XII Championship away.
I want to see absolute chaos with the CFP. - buffalofan19
Notre Dame and Cincinnati could both get in as long as Georgia takes care of Alabama
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