Savoie will change it
- sbroads24

Wright and Savoie, like Eichel can only do so much on their own.

However if you have a management team that can build around a high end talent, it can mean you are a consistent cup contender year after year.

"aren't we good enough as individuals and a team to win if you used the ton of cap space you had this off season to get some legit players?"
- Michael Pachla

"Honestly, while I see tremendous potential in each of you, I still see works in progress...would you agree, or do you believe you are at the top of your game right now?
I think we all agree further development is key over the next 2 -3 years for each of you..THAT is where YOUR focus needs to be. You".

So was Eichel, Reinhart, and Dahlin.

Obviously the correct move for Calgary after being bad last year was to trade all of Tkachuk, JG, Mangiapane etc and purposely lose for the next three years because they didn’t have an elite center?

Amirite?
- sbroads24

Maybe.
Did all three go to their GM and tell them they are done and want out?

"Honestly, while I see tremendous potential in each of you, I still see works in progress...would you agree, or do you believe you are at the top of your game right now?
I think we all agree further development is key over the next 2 -3 years for each of you..THAT is where YOUR focus needs to be. You".
- IonSabres

Am I dreaming ? Or did Eichel and Reinhart still have very good NHL seasons despite playing on bad hockey teams ?

This time, build a capable roster within 6 years so Wright/Savoie, Power, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Krebs don’t Frank off.

It’s not rocket science

Yea but if it takes 8 years to win a SB with Allen then was it worth it ?
- Pegullaville

If it takes (frank)ing 20 years it will be worth it man please stop talking.

The comments on this are ridiculous. Yes Tage stops and turns, but that's when Trochek decides he is going to board him and does.

I like Trochek but this was about as dirty of a play as you can make. He's the second guy in, comes flying and smashes him after he turns.


https://www.youtube.com/w...wPT8D3Y&ab_channel=Jens95

- homiedclown

I'd hit them both.

Man, after watching this team live Saturday there are some glaring problems. There is something wrong with Dahlin, he seems to look defeated out there, he's got some issues mentally going on with his game. There is a general lack of awareness and hockey IQ on the team. Tage, Mitts and Skinner were the only ones to look to be driving play. Subban is as bad as advertised.

I'd hit them both.
- Powerslave

I would obliterate Kim especially

Gem of an album, some of you older guys might like this:

https://www.youtube.com/w...Ngkhk&ab_channel=emBLICko

If it takes (frank)ing 20 years it will be worth it man please stop talking.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Apparently if it takes McDavid 9 seasons to win the tank wasn’t worth it according to Sbroads.

I’m sure Oilers fans would be happy with a cup regardless of how long it takes as well.

Thanks for backing me up

Am I dreaming ? Or did Eichel and Reinhart still have very good NHL seasons despite playing on bad hockey teams ?

This time, build a capable roster within 6 years so Wright/Savoie, Power, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Krebs don’t Frank off.

It’s not rocket science
- Pegullaville

Yes, and when assembling that capable roster with talented players, make sure to build the right culture around them, one that absolutely hates losing. (That’s problem numero uno with tanking; the unspoken, unacknowledged acceptance of losing. It leaves unintended stains)
Idk from afar, but it seems Adams might be trying to kind of follow what Zito is doing, it seems they say some similar things. Adams is just starting with less than Zito did. Don’t discount the “culture” of which Adams speaks.

https://www.local10.com/s...st-season-as-panthers-gm/
Two of the very first moves made by Zito after he was hired last September were the additions of Patric Hornqvist and Radko Gudas, a pair of seasoned veterans who had been around the block and knew what it took to succeed at the highest level.

Zito was asked how those particular players helped change the culture on the team this season. “I think it was self-evident. We saw the contribution, maybe in the first ten games, the way they compete on the ice, the emotion they brought, the way they play the game and the way they handle themselves. If you watch them on the bench, their interactions with the guys. I’m fortunate enough to see them behind the scenes. There was an incident in practice that I had referenced earlier in the season about Hornqvist pulling the guys back on the ice when they were leaving to do some reps on the power play. There is a lot also behind the scenes. Their empathy for their teammates, their communication with their teammates, the way they prepare themselves and arrive early, leave late, all those little things that go into it. Their impact was immediate and significant.”

Apparently if it takes McDavid 9 seasons to win the tank wasn’t worth it according to Sbroads.

I’m sure Oilers fans would be happy with a cup regardless of how long it takes as well.

Thanks for backing me up
- Pegullaville

Yeah that’s not what I said. Jfc

Yes, and when assembling that capable roster with talented players, make sure to build the right culture around them, one that absolutely hates losing. (That’s problem numero uno with tanking; the unspoken, unacknowledged acceptance of losing. It leaves unintended stains)
Idk from afar, but it seems Adams might be trying to kind of follow what Zito is doing, it seems they say some similar things. Adams is just starting with less than Zito did. Don’t discount the “culture” of which Adams speaks.

https://www.local10.com/s...st-season-as-panthers-gm/
Two of the very first moves made by Zito after he was hired last September were the additions of Patric Hornqvist and Radko Gudas, a pair of seasoned veterans who had been around the block and knew what it took to succeed at the highest level.

Zito was asked how those particular players helped change the culture on the team this season. “I think it was self-evident. We saw the contribution, maybe in the first ten games, the way they compete on the ice, the emotion they brought, the way they play the game and the way they handle themselves. If you watch them on the bench, their interactions with the guys. I’m fortunate enough to see them behind the scenes. There was an incident in practice that I had referenced earlier in the season about Hornqvist pulling the guys back on the ice when they were leaving to do some reps on the power play. There is a lot also behind the scenes. Their empathy for their teammates, their communication with their teammates, the way they prepare themselves and arrive early, leave late, all those little things that go into it. Their impact was immediate and significant.”
- Ratsreign

Kyle Okposo is our Hornqvist.

The Hornqvist’s of the world don’t matter unless you have the Crosby’s, Malkin’s, Barkov’s, and Huberdeau’s.

I applaud Zito for surrounding his elite players with talent.

If Murray and Botts would have done a better job then we’d still have Eichel and Reinhart.

C’est La vie

Yeah that’s not what I said. Jfc
- sbroads24

“McDavid winning a cup in his 7th season sure will show us!

Let’s go Buffalo in 2029!!!”

Sorry I bolded Barkov

Barkov in his 9tb season since his draft

Let’s go Buffalo 2031!!!”

“McDavid winning a cup in his 7th season sure will show us!

Let’s go Buffalo in 2029!!!”

Sorry I bolded Barkov

Barkov in his 9tb season since his draft

Let’s go Buffalo 2031!!!”
- Pegullaville

Tanking for the best player in 25-30 years and then taking 7 years to build a contender is not an example of how great tanking is.

Holy poop

There’s middle ground between trading everyone and icing ECHL goaltending and choosing not to improve
- sbroads24

There IS for sure.
Yet some on here wanted Matt Murray.
Some on here just want an occasional win to feel good, and are will g to trade to do it
Some are delusional enough to believe that roster is good enough for a playoff run.

Holy crap. I'm all for making good moves to improve the team LONG TERM . Does it have to be now...no, no it does not IMO...TDL, ok.

They are much more fun to watch than the last 2 seasons, even though the 1y placeholders on this team can't contribute enough to actually win.

Just get the young kids going in the right direction...for the most part it is happening more often than not. Dahlin is a hit of a worry as I recognize his gifts on the Zone Exists, Transition, and creating High Danger chances...but he does need to at least be competent on D and stop with the miscues on the Ozone blue line.

Apparently if it takes McDavid 9 seasons to win the tank wasn’t worth it according to Sbroads.

I’m sure Oilers fans would be happy with a cup regardless of how long it takes as well.

Thanks for backing me up
- Pegullaville

I'm not. Your arguments are weak and your logic is shot. You are horrible at trying to argue your points and you contradict yourself constantly.

It's actually horrible to interact with you most of the time, because you turn literally everything into a pissing contest.

I'd hit them both.
- Powerslave

I don't advocate for physical abuse, but hitting Kim upside the head like Rob Ray did to that guy who got into the bench area would feel pretty, pretty good!

I'm not. Your arguments are weak and your logic is shot. You are horrible at trying to argue your points and you contradict yourself constantly.

It's actually horrible to interact with you most of the time, because you turn literally everything into a pissing contest.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Also Oilers fans were throwing jerseys on the ice last year .

They’ve fired coaches, GM’s. Traded players etc.

Meanwhile several contenders have re-tooled there rosters and remained contenders

The whole “asK oIler FAns” thing is so dumb. They’ve been miserable for years

There IS for sure.
Yet some on here wanted Matt Murray.
Some on here just want an occasional win to feel good, and are will g to trade to do it
Some are delusional enough to believe that roster is good enough for a playoff run.

Holy crap. I'm all for making good moves to improve the team LONG TERM . Does it have to be now...no, no it does not IMO...TDL, ok.

They are much more fun to watch than the last 2 seasons, even though the 1y placeholders on this team can't contribute enough to actually win.

Just get the young kids going in the right direction...for the most part it is happening more often than not. Dahlin is a hit of a worry as I recognize his gifts on the Zone Exists, Transition, and creating High Danger chances...but he does need to at least be competent on D and stop with the miscues on the Ozone blue line.
- IonSabres

If you can get a competent starting goalie with term, you do that tomorrow. They're going to need a guy for at least 2 years anyway, so whether or not this roster is a playoff roster means nothing. If your goalie becomes available, you get him asap. Because, as we've seen, goaltenders aren't lining up to come here. This past "Summer of the Goalie" proved that.

Kyle Okposo is our Hornqvist.

The Hornqvist’s of the world don’t matter unless you have the Crosby’s, Malkin’s, Barkov’s, and Huberdeau’s.

I applaud Zito for surrounding his elite players with talent.

If Murray and Botts would have done a better job then we’d still have Eichel and Reinhart.

C’est La vie
- Pegullaville

I just pasted a whole paragraph of Bill Zito talking about how much the Hornqvists of the world actually do matter, right after my opening remark centered around the key phrase “while Adams is building this TALENTED roster”. I never tried to say culture will win without talent, I’m saying talent will struggle without the right culture. Our discussion wasn’t if previous Sabres GMs had screwed up, that’s irrelevant to my initial point to you. I’m referring to the team they build from here on.

Also Oilers fans were throwing jerseys on the ice last year .

They’ve fired coaches, GM’s. Traded players etc.

Meanwhile several contenders have re-tooled there rosters and remained contenders

The whole “asK oIler FAns” thing is so dumb. They’ve been miserable for years
- sbroads24

Other fans and other have nothing to do with the Sabres have the worst owners in North American sports.

I've been saying it for over 5 years. I'm the one who put the toxic culture of PSE and Harbor Center on blast almost a year before the ship started to spring leaks and sink - Over a year before the press started leaking the information.

I called it like it was - Eichel was a talented player with no heart to play in Buffalo, and a larger problem than he was a solution and he would drag this team to the bottom of the NHL echelons.

But all of that starts at the top. The guy in charge has a leash on him and the woman holding it is desperate for success and is so blind to her own incompetency and actual qualifications for the job she hired herself to do that she is literally killing this franchise.

Before the Pegulas, the Sabres had made the playoffs 3 out of every 4 years. As Pach has said, since the Pegulas purchased the team, we have LOST 2 out of every 3 games.

We went from a top-5 team in all-time win % before the Pegula-era. Now we're hardly in the top-15. And sinking fast.

Say hello to your Quebec or Hamilton or Houston Sabres, Buffalo fans. Because it's more likely we utter those words than it is we win a Stanley Cup with the jamoke owners we have.

I just pasted a whole paragraph of Bill Zito talking about how much the Hornqvists of the world actually do matter, right after my opening remark centered around the key phrase “while Adams is building this TALENTED roster”. I never tried to say culture will win without talent, I’m saying talent will struggle without the right culture. Our discussion wasn’t if previous Sabres GMs had screwed up, that’s irrelevant to my initial point to you. I’m referring to the team they build from here on.
- Ratsreign

Dude, Pegulaville is a pathological liar. He just blurts stuff without thinking and refuses to back down no matter how many people prove him wrong.

It happens once a week for going on 3 years now.

The guy actually needs help.

By tanking this season, I’m trying to add another blue chip prospect to this organization……..

Cozens is having a great year.

Mitts is 23, he’s going to sink or swim regardless of the team.

Dahlin has been a mixed bag.

How many trophies did ROR win one year removed from all the losing in Buffalo again ????????
- Pegullaville

Don't tell me. You're hypothetically talking to Dahlin, Mitts and Cozens. They want to know why you don't have faith in them to win and why you didn't use all that cap space last off season to bring in legit players to help them win now instead of waiting until next season.