Jack Eichel was a 2nd overall pick

Vegas never tanked to get him

No ones saying you can’t benefit from tanking or drafting high

Pretending it’s the only way is flat out stupid
- sbroads24

What are the odds of trading for an elite Center man in the next 12 months ?

What are the odds of finding one in the draft if they keep losing this year ?

Option B is more likely than Option A.

Outliers do exist in statistics though.

What are the odds of trading for an elite Center man in the next 12 months ?

What are the odds of finding one in the draft if they keep losing this year ?

Option B is more likely than Option A.

Outliers do exist in statistics though.
- Pegullaville

They aren’t outliers

Washington did not tank for Backstrom - he’s their center

Boston did not tank for Bergeron - he’s their center

St. Louis did not tank for ROR- he’s their center

Calgary did not tank for Lindholm - he’s their center

These teams are all contenders THIS SEASON.

Please don’t tell me none of them have a shot at the cup

If you want to say that you believe this is the *best* way. Ok, I disagree right now based on what’s happened with this team the past 10 years

If you want to say it’s the *only* way - you’re flat out wrong

What are the odds of trading for an elite Center man in the next 12 months ?

What are the odds of finding one in the draft if they keep losing this year ?

Option B is more likely than Option A.

Outliers do exist in statistics though.
- Pegullaville

if dahlin (1st overall,) mitts (8th) and cozens (7th) walked into your fictitious gm's office today and asked why you would let their great start crumble and why you're intent upon finishing in last place (or near the bottom of the league), what would be your response?

They aren’t outliers

Washington did not tank for Backstrom - he’s their center

Boston did not tank for Bergeron - he’s their center

St. Louis did not tank for ROR- he’s their center

Calgary did not tank for Lindholm - he’s their center

These teams are all contenders THIS SEASON.

Please don’t tell me none of them have a shot at the cup

If you want to say that you believe this is the *best* way. Ok, I disagree right now based on what’s happened with this team the past 10 years

If you want to say it’s the *only* way - you’re flat out wrong
- sbroads24

Backstrom went 4th overall……

The 2019 Blues and the Bruins are outliers to the rule.

Where did the Flames draft Matthew Tkachuk again ? How about your best friend Monahan ? Top 6 no ? How do you draft top 6 ? By losing lots of games

if dahlin (1st overall,) mitts (8th) and cozens (7th) walked into your fictitious gm's office today and asked why you would let their great start crumble and why you're intent upon finishing in last place (or near the bottom of the league), what would be your response?
- Michael Pachla

Give me 2 years to turn this ship around, I need you to trust me.

Hey Dylan, you know how good Matthew Savoie is since you played against him in the WHL. Would it be cool to play with him again ?

Hey Jack, remember those games against Kingston in the OHL. Would it be cool having Shane Wright set you up in the slot for 30 goals a year ? How awesome would your second contract look ?

This offseason I have a ton of ammunition I can use to add some players to get us in the right direction. I have a ton of cap space to make plays in the free agency market.

Give me 2 years to turn this ship around, I need you to trust me.

Hey Dylan, you know how good Matthew Savoie is since you played against him in the WHL. Would it be cool to play with him again ?

Hey Jack, remember those games against Kingston in the OHL. Would it be cool having Shane Wright set you up in the slot for 30 goals a year ? How awesome would your second contract look ?

This offseason I have a ton of ammunition I can use to add some players to get us in the right direction. I have a ton of cap space to make plays in the free agency market.
- Pegullaville

"aren't we good enough as individuals and a team to win if you used the ton of cap space you had this off season to get some legit players?"

They aren’t outliers

Washington did not tank for Backstrom - he’s their center

Boston did not tank for Bergeron - he’s their center

St. Louis did not tank for ROR- he’s their center

Calgary did not tank for Lindholm - he’s their center

These teams are all contenders THIS SEASON.

- sbroads24

this

"aren't we good enough as individuals and a team to win if you used the ton of cap space you had this off season to get some legit players?"
- Michael Pachla

I don’t think Dylan, Rasmus, Casey, or Tage thought we were going to be good this year.

If it’s obvious to me we were tanking this year, you don’t think they had any semblance of an idea ?

Considering you know, they are the ones on the ice actually playing ?

this
- homiedclown

Except Backstrom, Tkachuk, and Monahan were all obtained with top 6 overall draft selections.

Backstrom went 4th overall……

The 2019 Blues and the Bruins are outliers to the rule.

Where did the Flames draft Matthew Tkachuk again ? How about your best friend Monahan ? Top 6 no ? How do you draft top 6 ? By losing lots of games
- Pegullaville

Matthew Tkachuk is a center? News to me

Except Backstrom, Tkachuk, and Monahan were all obtained with top 6 overall draft selections.
- Pegullaville

Oh Monahan is good now?

Matthew Tkachuk is a center? News to me
- sbroads24

also he is completely ignoring the difference between tanking for a player and building a team 10 plus years later


I mean if the sabres win the cup, finally 20 years from now and power is on that roster and we do not pick in the top 3 for the next 20 years

it's the team building that wins them the cup not a draft pick 20 years earlier

Oh Monahan is good now?
- sbroads24

Except Backstrom, Tkachuk, and Monahan were all obtained with top 6 overall draft selections.
- Pegullaville

So was Eichel, Reinhart, and Dahlin.

Obviously the correct move for Calgary after being bad last year was to trade all of Tkachuk, JG, Mangiapane etc and purposely lose for the next three years because they didn’t have an elite center?

Amirite?

Matthew Tkachuk is a center? News to me
- sbroads24

Sean Monahan is.

It sure is nice having a winger who averages 65 points a season though on your top line thanks to losing a bunch of games.

Even better when you have a GM who can put a team around those two top 6 picks.

Amazing how that works

also he is completely ignoring the difference between tanking for a player and building a team 10 plus years later


I mean if the sabres win the cup, finally 20 years from now and power is on that roster and we do not pick in the top 3 for the next 20 years

it's the team building that wins them the cup not a draft pick 20 years earlier
- homiedclown

He’s been confusing tanking and just being bad for a year or two this year entire 5 pages

"aren't we good enough as individuals and a team to win if you used the ton of cap space you had this off season to get some legit players?"
- Michael Pachla

No, last year made that crystal clear.

So was Eichel, Reinhart, and Dahlin.

Obviously the correct move for Calgary after being bad last year was to trade all of Tkachuk, JG, Mangiapane etc and purposely lose for the next three years because they didn’t have an elite center?

Amirite?
- sbroads24

Eichel and Reinhart are still here if we have management that put a team around them at any time in the last 6 years.

But yes, continue to blame tanking instead of inept management.

If Detroit doesn’t make the playoffs within the next 5 years, is it Moritz Seider and Lucas Raymond’s fault ? Or is it Yzerman’s for not giving them help ?

Sean Monahan is.

It sure is nice having a winger who averages 65 points a season though on your top line thanks to losing a bunch of games.

Even better when you have a GM who can put a team around those two top 6 picks.

Amazing how that works
- Pegullaville

Amazing how many 180’s you do within a page

Monahan is suddenly good now just based on where he was drafted

Wingers now matter only if youve tanked for them

Eichel and Reinhart are still here if we have management that put a team around them at any time in the last 6 years.

But yes, continue to blame tanking instead of inept management.

If Detroit doesn’t make the playoffs within the next 5 years, is it Moritz Seider and Lucas Raymond’s fault ? Or is it Yzerman’s for not giving them help ?
- Pegullaville

I’m 1000% blaming management and not blaming Eichel

I want Eichel here now dude

also he is completely ignoring the difference between tanking for a player and building a team 10 plus years later


I mean if the sabres win the cup, finally 20 years from now and power is on that roster and we do not pick in the top 3 for the next 20 years

it's the team building that wins them the cup not a draft pick 20 years earlier
- homiedclown

Without Ovechkin and Backstrom you don’t win, the Caps don’t win those cups no matter how good of a supporting cast one has.

Amazing how many 180’s you do within a page

Monahan is suddenly good now just based on where he was drafted

Wingers now matter only if youve tanked for them
- sbroads24

All I’ve said is blaming tanking for where we are today is incredibly false.

Other than Boston, all you have done has proven me right by talking about a bunch of teams that have gone in the toilet and added elite talents and built teams around them.

All I’ve said is blaming tanking for where we are today is incredibly false.

Other than St Louis and Boston, all you have done has proven me right by talking about a bunch of teams that have gone in the toilet and added elite talents and built teams around them.
- Pegullaville

lmao

You lost this when you claimed Sean Monahan was one of the top reasons why Calgary is good

12 points in 24 games. On the third line. Playing a career low 14 min a game

lmao

You lost this when you claimed Sean Monahan was one of the top reasons why Calgary is good

12 points in 24 games. On the third line. Playing a career low 14 min a game
- sbroads24

I’m still confused how Calgary is able to be in a playoff spot with their losing culture.

They picked top 6, 3 years in a row but have turned it around.

I’m flabbergasted

I’m still confused how Calgary is able to be in a playoff spot with their losing culture.

They picked top 6, 3 years in a row but have turned it around.

I’m flabbergasted
- Pegullaville

First off I’ve never once mentioned culture

Second and more importantly- THEY NEVER TANKED.