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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:27 PM ET
Liljegren will be sent down since other than Sandin he’s the one guy they have that doesn’t need to clear waivers

As for the left wingers it will be Engvall I’m guessing who will be sat during this…

Guessing LW will be 1: Bunting, 2: Mikheyev, 3: Kerfoot, and 4: Ritchie/Engvall

For a short period of time to be able to trade Mikheyev for closer to what they feel he’s worth.

- Dozzer


I think they use the time to evaluate and make a decision rather than just showcase Mik. If he does well, maybe they prefer to keep him and move Ritchie. He’s been playing well but is overpriced for the Leafs needs. If Mik shows he can play top six in an insurance role, maybe they slot him into 3LW and move Engvall to the 4th and save Nick’s $2.5M.

Their minds may not be 100% set.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Dec 3 @ 4:27 PM ET
All the lines seem to be clicking too..

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Kase(should be back tomorrow)
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds

tough call to be honest.. Probably a good thing that I am not Sheldon Keefe

- PatC80

I see an easy way to save 850k 🤔
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
I think they use the time to evaluate and make a decision rather than just showcase Mik. If he does well, maybe they prefer to keep him and move Ritchie. He’s been playing well but is overpriced for the Leafs needs. If Mik shows he can play top six in an insurance role, maybe they slot him into 3LW and move Engvall to the 4th and save Nick’s $2.5M.

Their minds may not be 100% set.

- Canada Cup



Think they give Ritchie a chance, if only to see what he can do in the playoffs
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
I don’t mean to sound like Pessimistic Pete here, but chances are we won’t have to send anyone down, as another injury will happen to someone.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
I don’t mean to sound like Pessimistic Pete here, but chances are we won’t have to send anyone down, as another injury will happen to someone.
- Atomic Wedgie


Muzzin is doing his best to put $10.9M on LTIR
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
I don’t mean to sound like Pessimistic Pete here, but chances are we won’t have to send anyone down, as another injury will happen to someone.
- Atomic Wedgie


if muzzin has his way
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
I do wonder if Dubas hasn't already been working on and has something lined up to make a trade and deal with all this cap crunch stuff right away even? Never know.

Still if not, I think Dozer is right with the short term Lilly down and then showcasing Mik to make a move with him and get something for him.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
Muzzin is doing his best to put $10.9M on LTIR
- Canada Cup


Are you saying that Muzzin kucheroved Marner?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:04 PM ET
I do wonder if Dubas hasn't already been working on and has something lined up to make a trade and deal with all this cap crunch stuff right away even? Never know.

Still if not, I think Dozer is right with the short term Lilly down and then showcasing Mik to make a move with him and get something for him.

- Roadrunner75

I think we need to be careful to not lose any more forward depth before the playoffs

Already lost this year so far…..

Brooks
Amadio
Robertson (injury)
Semyonov

Mickey Cliffy and Joey will help
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
All the lines seem to be clicking too..

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Kase(should be back tomorrow)
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds

tough call to be honest.. Probably a good thing that I am not Sheldon Keefe

- PatC80

If anything you would want to try:

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Micheyev-Kampf-Kase
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds

Rielly, Brodie
Muzzin, Dermott/Holl/Lily
Sandin, Dermott/Holl/Lily

Campbell
Mrazek

If the Leafs can't afford to keep 13F Engvall or 7D Holl/Dermott something needs to happen. None of those guys would clear waivers.

Leaves Engvall, Holl or Dermott on the way out but only IF Micheyev is back to form. Woll can go down to the AHL.

So the real question is, what does Dubas do for the time being while Micheyev is showcasing???

Hopefully not losing guys on the waiver wire.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 5:26 PM ET
Are you saying that Muzzin kucheroved Marner?
- Aetherial


May not walk again - till playoffs
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
May not walk again - till playoffs
- Canada Cup

Imagine the hate if the Leafs would copy Tampa...

...and win

oh boy
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
Send Sandin down. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Liljegren has been better and more reliable, also plays the right which is needed more.

- joel878


Sandin is their second PP guy and never gets benched.

It’s going to be Liljegren without a trade happening first.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec 3 @ 6:01 PM ET
I mean, liljegren should stay with the team when they can have him up. Hoping the plan isn't to keep him in the A
- TheMussel


Until they clear some cap space that’s where he’ll be.

Do I like that? No not at all, exactly like you I want him kept with the leafs.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
I get that.. Lily is the easy choice, just not sure it's the best choice.. We'll have to wait and see..
- PatC80


Agreed. They have two guys who can be dropped waiver exempt and Sandin isn’t going anywhere
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec 3 @ 6:04 PM ET
I think they use the time to evaluate and make a decision rather than just showcase Mik. If he does well, maybe they prefer to keep him and move Ritchie. He’s been playing well but is overpriced for the Leafs needs. If Mik shows he can play top six in an insurance role, maybe they slot him into 3LW and move Engvall to the 4th and save Nick’s $2.5M.

Their minds may not be 100% set.

- Canada Cup


Mikheyev won’t be put on the third line. He asked to be traded due to that being his job with the leafs. If Keefe did that all of a sudden the leafs would have negativity coming from him due to his unhappiness over his role in the roster.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 6:09 PM ET
Mikheyev won’t be put on the third line. He asked to be traded due to that being his job with the leafs. If Keefe did that all of a sudden the leafs would have negativity coming from him due to his unhappiness over his role in the roster.
- Dozzer


Maybe, but this year the third line has a role and some pretty good press and playing with Kase would provide some real offensive potential. But you’re right, if he thinks he automatically replaces Kerfoot or Bunting, move his ass out. (Unless he #hoews something real quick.)
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 3 @ 6:15 PM ET
May not walk again - till 9 weeks before the playoffs
- Canada Cup


fixed
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
Maybe, but this year the third line has a role and some pretty good press and playing with Kase would provide some real offensive potential. But you’re right, if he thinks he automatically replaces Kerfoot or Bunting, move his ass out. (Unless he #hoews something real quick.)
- Canada Cup


Yup, he wants a top 6 role so show him off and sell him asap
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec 3 @ 6:26 PM ET
Yup, he wants a top 6 role so show him off and sell him asap
- Dozzer

Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Dec 3 @ 8:28 PM ET
Hearing Woll gets the start Sunday against The Jets and Mrazek is starting for The Marlies against the Laval Rocket on his conditioning stint

I really don’t know how I’m gonna feel if Mrazek loses and Woll wins
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Dec 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
Hearing Woll gets the start Sunday against The Jets and Mrazek is starting for The Marlies against the Laval Rocket on his conditioning stint

I really don’t know how I’m gonna feel if Mrazek loses and Woll wins

- Dozzer


Won't matter how we feel, Mrazek is the backup and 3 or 4 good games from a rookie won't change that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Imagine they dump off Mrazek right now and Woll shows everyone the hot start was a flash in the pan. Then we what... Ride the hell out of a starter who's previously been injury prone?

We did this with Sparks and Hutchinson, it went very bad.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
Won't matter how we feel, Mrazek is the backup and 3 or 4 good games from a rookie won't change that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Imagine they dump off Mrazek right now and Woll shows everyone the hot start was a flash in the pan. Then we what... Ride the hell out of a starter who's previously been injury prone?

We did this with Sparks and Hutchinson, it went very bad.

- joel878


Oh this is the thing! I completely agree with you… hence why I said I don’t know how’d I feel… I’d be hating the idea of counting on Mrazek but I’d also know I was wrong.

Rather him get 25 games or so in this year, play well, so the leafs can move him in order to be able to afford Campbell. But none of this needs to be done til the summer.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Dec 3 @ 9:00 PM ET

- 21peter

Uh oh 😳

Shesterkin injured
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