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Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
So G is too fault for Lindblom JVR Coots Farabees poor play for the vast majority of this season? If this guy wasn’t on this team they’d be a basement dweller. Probably better off if they didn’t haha
- ClaudeFather



Poor play stats wise obviously not on G. Poor play effort wise yes that is on the leader. Not practicing today the leader can go to coaching & say we need to I want to we are going to. Farabee or Frost can’t do that
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
So G is too fault for Lindblom JVR Coots Farabees poor play for the vast majority of this season? If this guy wasn’t on this team they’d be a basement dweller. Probably better off if they didn’t haha
- ClaudeFather

'I didnt say anyone was at fault. go re read what i wrote without trying to put a spin on it.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
Giroux is the captain he’s responsible for making the team better on ice
- 2Real

The captain thing is such a fictional character you people have created. Not that there aren’t good leaders that wear the C but it’s about a Franking team. Is Stamkos a good captain? His team won a Stanley cup without the guy, didn’t need him. Is Toews a great captain? Or was he just a very good player on one of the best teams of the decade. If you flipped G with either of these guys the Flyers do not do better than what they’ve done the past decade
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
Giroux is the captain he’s responsible for making the team better on ice
- 2Real


Good captains demand things from their players.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
This isn’t a good thing...
- ClaudeFather

Seems like we’re only good and going easily injured players
Parent
Bourdon
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Ellis
Nittymaki


To start with
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
Good captains demand things from their players.
- bradster

You are living in fantasy land
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
The captain thing is such a fictional character you people have created. Not that there aren’t good leaders that wear the C but it’s about a Franking team. Is Stamkos a good captain? His team won a Stanley cup without the guy, didn’t need him. Is Toews a great captain? Or was he just a very good player on one of the best teams of the decade. If you flipped G with either of these guys the Flyers do not do better than what they’ve done the past decade
- ClaudeFather

You’re telling me the captain doesn’t set the tone for the team?
Bro have you ever played a team sport or worked some where other than McDonald’s?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
You are living in fantasy land
- ClaudeFather

Sounds like you are giroux is an ass of a captain
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
You are living in fantasy land
- ClaudeFather


You just don’t get hockey. Couldn’t have been in too many locker rooms
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
You’re telling me the captain doesn’t set the tone for the team?
Bro have you ever played a team sport or worked some where other than McDonald’s?

- 2Real

You don’t think Giroux has set the tone for the team, the only guy that produces year in and year out? It’s about a team moron. You act like we had some star studded squad that under achieved .
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
You just don’t get hockey. Couldn’t have been in too many locker rooms
- Fopa21

90% of the time the captain is the best guy on the team, not this hoorah leader. You have watched too many movies.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
You are living in fantasy land
- ClaudeFather


HAHAHAHAHAHA
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
You don’t think Giroux has set the tone for the team, the only guy that produces year in and year out? It’s about a team moron. You act like we had some star studded squad that under achieved .
- ClaudeFather

What has he produced other than disappointing teams?
Last time this team was good was with Richards at captain
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
90% of the time the captain is the best guy on the team, not this hoorah leader. You have watched too many movies.
- ClaudeFather

TIL Jason smith was the best player on the flyers guess mike Richards is better than giroux
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:30 AM ET
What has he produced other than disappointing teams?
Last time this team was good was with Richards at captain

- 2Real

Yea those rosters were expected to do big things
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
TIL Jason smith was the best player on the flyers guess mike Richards is better than giroux
- 2Real

Mike Richards was the catalyst for that cup team and then won with LA playing a major role...
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
90% of the time the captain is the best guy on the team, not this hoorah leader. You have watched too many movies.
- ClaudeFather


Wins: GP 8 Goals 3 Assists 6 Points 9 +/- +4

Losses: GP 13 Goals 4 Assists 5 Points 9 +/- -10

Point totals are the same. When the leader decides to play both ends of the ice the team usually wins.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
You don’t think Giroux has set the tone for the team, the only guy that produces year in and year out? It’s about a team moron. You act like we had some star studded squad that under achieved .
- ClaudeFather


Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you are captain material.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:33 AM ET
Mike Richards was the catalyst for that cup team and then won with LA playing a major role...
- ClaudeFather

So you’re saying giroux isn’t as good
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:34 AM ET
Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you are captain material.
- bradster

Look at every team, who is the captain? It’s almost always the best player or was anointed when they were. You honestly think they are all great leaders haha, wake up buddy. Stop watching Movies.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
jake is coring how he normally does. and has a very high offensive zone start rate.

ghost is having one of his better years to start the season....also looking at the numbers i don't think shayne will be able to sustain his level....lets see how long this lasts for both players.

- Peter Richards


You know who also has a very high offensive zone start rate? Cam Atkinson. And he's not exactly producing like Jake, is he?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
So you’re saying giroux isn’t as good
- 2Real

At the time Mike Richards was the better player, G was integral part of that team too but Mike a Richards was The Guy
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 3 @ 11:36 AM ET
90% of the time the captain is the best guy on the team, not this hoorah leader. You have watched too many movies.
- ClaudeFather


This has been a shift I feel the last twenty years. Wasn’t around in the 69 s and 70 s. But I view the captain position as a certain type of character. And I require them to bring certain elements.

Now. Not saying anything about g currently. When he was named captain I didn’t understand exactly. Let your best player offensively worry about that. I always preferred a player like landeskog. Current example. Or sometimes it just works out like getzlaf that your best player has those attributes.

But that’s just me.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
You just don’t get hockey. Couldn’t have been in too many locker rooms
- Fopa21


Be honest, after you snuck into the locker room, they asked you to leave.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
Yea those rosters were expected to do big things
- ClaudeFather


Even more indicators of his crap play/overratedness

Home:
10 6 5 11 -1

Away:
11 1 6 7 -5

The league knows to get him out on the ice for favorable match ups. At home he’s sheltered a bit more with last change.
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