Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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I really wanted Miller. Its the one pick im pissed at hextall about - THE BLACK HAND
I would’ve been wrong on 2018. I wanted veleno or Wilde. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Has anyone started a "dead pool" yet for firings and trades?
CF fired date
AV fire date
Yeo fire date
Therrien fire date
Player TBD trade date
etc etc etc
earth opens up and swallows the Comcast building and Scott date (UFO intervention also allowed) date
Thats what this all really boils down to - RajaAmpat
giroux trade date march 21, 2022
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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Why I don't bet on hockey games? Tonight are two examples. Florida is outshooting the Sabres 26-12 and losing 4-1(Thanks BOB), and Carolina is outshooting the Sens 23-6 and losing 1-0. That's why! On to your regular scheduled programming. |
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Why I don't bet on hockey games? Tonight are two examples. Florida is outshooting the Sabres 26-12 and losing 4-1(Thanks BOB), and Carolina is outshooting the Sens 23-6 and losing 1-0. That's why! On to your regular scheduled programming. - Phillywhiteout
You need to ask the swami -- he wins each and every day (supposedly) |
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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 07.05.2011
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He is like 3 to 4 yrs older then the guys he is playing against - hfc355
The kid is 22 and playing in college. He is playing against his age group. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The kid is 22 and playing in college. He is playing against his age group. - bird_dog_pa
He's probably one of the older players in the NCAA. |
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daddytc
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Sarasota, FL Joined: 10.03.2014
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With regard to the constant "Patrick was consensus #2" talk, is anyone old enough to remember the lead up to the Forsberg draft? Maybe I have selective memory, but I remember when we took him, we were absolutely panned by most of the "experts" that thought we went off board.
THAT'S exactly what you are paying top scouts for, to see beyond these supposed expert rankings and make decisions based on the years of experience that they have. If not, why not just fire all of the scouts and draft whomever Bob McKenzie or the "consensus" has as BPA?
I don't care what you guys say, Nolan Patrick had garrison-sized red flags around him. If I saw it, if most of my hockey friends saw it, how in the f@&< didn't Hextall see it? And this is coming from a guy that actually LIKED what Hexy's was trying to do. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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With regard to the constant "Patrick was consensus #2" talk, is anyone old enough to remember the lead up to the Forsberg draft? Maybe I have selective memory, but I remember when we took him, we were absolutely panned by most of the "experts" that thought we went off board.
THAT'S exactly what you are paying top scouts for, to see beyond these supposed expert rankings and make decisions based on the years of experience that they have. If not, why not just fire all of the scouts and draft whomever Bob McKenzie or the "consensus" has as BPA?
I don't care what you guys say, Nolan Patrick had garrison-sized red flags around him. If I saw it, if most of my hockey friends saw it, how in the f@&< didn't Hextall see it? And this is coming from a guy that actually LIKED what Hexy's was trying to do. - daddytc
What were these red flags? They didn't exist. Patrick was an across the board top level pick. By everybody. So please tell us what these red flags were that you and your hockey friends saw? Can you offer any expert corroboration on that?
Here is a link to a redraft and an article posted on March 22nd 2018 in which 11 NHL scouts, directors of player personnel and GMs give their opinion on the draft almost a year later. They still have Patrick at #2. Apparently, none of them are aware of the red flags that you and your friends are.
https://thehockeynews.com...-gms-redo-the-first-round
Here is an analysis of the draft on NHL.com
https://www.nhl.com/news/...t-picks-recap/c-290088112
"Patrick (6-foot-2, 198 pounds) possesses the hockey sense, vision and skill to become a top-line center in the NHL."
NHL.com analysis: Flyers take most NHL-ready player in draft. He was only prospect to visit Philadelphia, and they clearly were satisfied his injury issues were behind him.
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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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What were these red flags? They didn't exist. Patrick was an across the board top level pick. By everybody. So please tell us what these red flags were that you and your hockey friends saw? Can you offer any expert corroboration on that?
Here is a link to a redraft and an article posted on March 22nd 2018 in which 11 NHL scouts, directors of player personnel and GMs give their opinion on the draft almost a year later. They still have Patrick at #2. Apparently, none of them are aware of the red flags that you and your friends are.
https://thehockeynews.com...-gms-redo-the-first-round
Here is an analysis of the draft on NHL.com
https://www.nhl.com/news/...t-picks-recap/c-290088112
"Patrick (6-foot-2, 198 pounds) possesses the hockey sense, vision and skill to become a top-line center in the NHL."
NHL.com analysis: Flyers take most NHL-ready player in draft. He was only prospect to visit Philadelphia, and they clearly were satisfied his injury issues were behind him.
Where are the red flags? - MJL
His skull had the consistency of mashed potatoes |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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His skull had the consistency of mashed potatoes - ClaudeFather
i think the scouts are just as clueless as we are |
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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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I'f I'm the Flyers I'd try and trade Claude Giroux to the Senators for Brady Tkachuk and whatever else the Senators would need to make that deal happen. Everyone knows Giroux has ties to Ottawa. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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With regard to the constant "Patrick was consensus #2" talk, is anyone old enough to remember the lead up to the Forsberg draft? Maybe I have selective memory, but I remember when we took him, we were absolutely panned by most of the "experts" that thought we went off board.
THAT'S exactly what you are paying top scouts for, to see beyond these supposed expert rankings and make decisions based on the years of experience that they have. If not, why not just fire all of the scouts and draft whomever Bob McKenzie or the "consensus" has as BPA?
I don't care what you guys say, Nolan Patrick had garrison-sized red flags around him. If I saw it, if most of my hockey friends saw it, how in the f@&< didn't Hextall see it? And this is coming from a guy that actually LIKED what Hexy's was trying to do. - daddytc
There was injury issues for sure….the guy needed surgery even before we drafted him. Now it’s not like the Flyers went off the board and took him. The issue was he had plateaued as far as his play…the argument was whether or not his injury filled draft year was a sign…was it the reason he hadn’t dominated like most thought he would after such a good year the year before….high risk high reward pick. A lot of pundits still had him rated as a top 2…as has been pointed out…Obviously Hextall made the wrong decision. Pretty clear.
I do remember the Forsberg pick….most had him rated in the 2nd rd behind fellow country man Markus Naslund….I remember thinking at the time that we had to trust the Flyers picks….they had made a lot of picks like that and it had worked out in their favour.
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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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I'f I'm the Flyers I'd try and trade Claude Giroux to the Senators for Brady Tkachuk and whatever else the Senators would need to make that deal happen. Everyone knows Giroux has ties to Ottawa. - Pixote Andolini You really think Giroux wants to play in Ottawa? They're worse than the Flyers. He has a no trade clause in his contract. The only way he leaves the Flyers is for a chance to win the silver chalice.
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Bendecko
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Location: Cave Putorium Joined: 02.29.2020
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I'f I'm the Flyers I'd try and trade Claude Giroux to the Senators for Brady Tkachuk and whatever else the Senators would need to make that deal happen. Everyone knows Giroux has ties to Ottawa. - Pixote Andolini
Just because he grew-up and played junior hockey in the Ottawa area, that won't mean he wants to play there.
He was a Habs fan growing-up ( https://www.nhl.com/flyer...le-claude-giroux/c-435637), so if he wants to escpecially play for a "hometown"/Canadian team, I'd bet he'd be more inclined to play for Montreal than Ottawa. And he'd still be real close to all his family and friends in the area (it's only a 2-hr drive between the 2 cities).
But I still believe he will only waive his NMC to go to a contending team regardless of where that winds-up being. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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AV is the route of the problem. It is his job to get these guys going and for the most part AV has done nothing special in his tenure as head coach. His stubborn approach is going to get him fired eventually. Personally it is no fun watching this team play like minor leaguers. So much talent and they all suck with a couple exceptions. Farabee started out on fire and then got so bad he looked lost for a month, Konecny the same and we all know when Konecny loses it he is done for the year. Maybe when Evander gets here he can put some life in the locker room and on the ice. The way this team is heading they are going to see Carter Hart start to feel overwhelmed again, like last year when he was terrible behind a non structured system that no goalie could survive in. Rant over |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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I'f I'm the Flyers I'd try and trade Claude Giroux to the Senators for Brady Tkachuk and whatever else the Senators would need to make that deal happen. Everyone knows Giroux has ties to Ottawa. - Pixote Andolini
That is the dumbest trade offer I have ever seen. Ottawa would have rocks in their heads if they traded Brady for Giroux, that will never happen. Maybe 10 years ago but Brady was only 11 then. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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What were these red flags? They didn't exist. Patrick was an across the board top level pick. By everybody. So please tell us what these red flags were that you and your hockey friends saw? Can you offer any expert corroboration on that?
Here is a link to a redraft and an article posted on March 22nd 2018 in which 11 NHL scouts, directors of player personnel and GMs give their opinion on the draft almost a year later. They still have Patrick at #2. Apparently, none of them are aware of the red flags that you and your friends are.
https://thehockeynews.com...-gms-redo-the-first-round
Here is an analysis of the draft on NHL.com
https://www.nhl.com/news/...t-picks-recap/c-290088112
"Patrick (6-foot-2, 198 pounds) possesses the hockey sense, vision and skill to become a top-line center in the NHL."
NHL.com analysis: Flyers take most NHL-ready player in draft. He was only prospect to visit Philadelphia, and they clearly were satisfied his injury issues were behind him.
Where are the red flags? - MJL
There were red flags everywhere starting with Hextall. You have no clue what is going on and are primarily a puppet for whatever info you read that management says. Like how you defended Hakstol till the day he got fired. I told you he should have been fired a year earlier. They screwed up Bobrovsky and lost a premier goalie because Michael Leighton apparently was better in their minds. Just take a year off MJL, you are so delusional.
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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I'f I'm the Flyers I'd try and trade Claude Giroux to the Senators for Brady Tkachuk and whatever else the Senators would need to make that deal happen. Everyone knows Giroux has ties to Ottawa. - Pixote Andolini
That’s not happening. I’d prob do g, a 1st and and say frost and they’d still laugh. He’s the corner piece they are building around |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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There were red flags everywhere starting with Hextall. You have no clue what is going on and are primarily a puppet for whatever info you read that management says. Like how you defended Hakstol till the day he got fired. I told you he should have been fired a year earlier. They screwed up Bobrovsky and lost a premier goalie because Michael Leighton apparently was better in their minds. Just take a year off MJL, you are so delusional. - joegreif17
Name one red flag and support it with documentation. As far as bring a puppet for management, then why am I calling for AV to be fired and heavily criticizing management? I always look forward to you showing up and making yourself look like a fool.
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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.18.2009
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Name one red flag and support it with documentation. As far as bring a puppet for management, then why am I calling for AV to be fired and heavily criticizing management? I always look forward to you showing up and making yourself look like a fool.
- MJL
wow, getting personal at 7:30am, this should be a fun day. Please commence with the Hextall talk |
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There were red flags everywhere starting with Hextall. You have no clue what is going on and are primarily a puppet for whatever info you read that management says. Like how you defended Hakstol till the day he got fired. I told you he should have been fired a year earlier. They screwed up Bobrovsky and lost a premier goalie because Michael Leighton apparently was better in their minds. Just take a year off MJL, you are so delusional. - joegreif17
Michael Leighton?????
They signed Bryz, you (frank)ing moron |
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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 02.06.2017
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There were red flags everywhere starting with Hextall. You have no clue what is going on and are primarily a puppet for whatever info you read that management says. Like how you defended Hakstol till the day he got fired. I told you he should have been fired a year earlier. They screwed up Bobrovsky and lost a premier goalie because Michael Leighton apparently was better in their minds. Just take a year off MJL, you are so delusional. - joegreif17
Good Morning Joe. Any transactions to report during your 30th year as a fantasy hockey GM?
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iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: 03.23.2021
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We’ll you did list the plethora draft picks Hextall made…you obviously have a very high opinion of all these future stars he was able to acquire. Unfortunately you must be basing your observation on what they might do in the future because you sure as hell can’t be suggesting any of those guys beyond Hart has that type of pedigree. I would say his over all drafting record is average….at best.
If that’s all you have then I rest my case, because anyone as smart as you could point to his solid FA signings…you know Dale Weise or is it our 7 million dollar anchor …opps I mean winger JVR to add to your position of what a great job he did….or was it all that playoff success we had? Or have had since ….with all these high end kids he brought in you would think we are pretty well set up…well you would think?
- landros 2
He fixed a lot of things. I never said he was perfect. Flyers we’re an abject mess when he took over. He corrected that. I wouldn’t say Homer’s big moves approach has worked out, would you? But Hextall got hired as GM by one of best franchises. So, your assessment is very negadelphian but seems not to be shared outside of the DelVal. |
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