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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 2 @ 7:19 PM ET
Lol. You’re spinning and you’re not very good at it. The only thing you said that makes sense is your last sentence. You’re not even a good troll.
- Minnyhock


I get that it makes it easier to discredit a major scientific study because reasons and that the whole notion of science is inconvenient. I presented one study that refutes one of the many idiotic ideas floating around in here and I’m the one spinning? There are plenty of others but I’m sure they’d be just as problematic.

You guys really do live in a post truth world.

There are valid reasons not to go to these Olympics and it’s up to the players to decide. The human rights issues are real. The consequences of testing positive while there are significant. BTW, the danger is not so much from the games being held in China but from being in confined quarters with athletes from all over the world - but again that doesn’t fit the Wuhan flu narrative.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Dec 2 @ 7:25 PM ET
I'd prefer the players were reconsidering because China is a human rights sh1thole
- TheGame316


(frank) China; boycott the whole thing. The western world should have long ago banded together along with anyone else who is sick of China’s bullpoop to reroute supply chains and limit their economic influence. Anyone trying to do it alone — even the mighty U.S. — would not be able to do so at this point (too dependent economically) but could have had a fighting chance if there was a coordinated response from the developed world. Unfortunately the majority of leaders don’t have the stones or brains for that sort of a manoeuvre or are asleep at the wheel, so I’m not optimistic we’ll ever see the level of coordination needed to pull that off.

(frank) china
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Dec 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
Why COVID ? COVID has been around so long now and yet games are being played so I just don't get it.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 2 @ 7:57 PM ET
Do you just pull this stuff out of your ass? There are a few vaccines that are used as therapeutics but since they’re therapeutics, they’re administered after someone is sick. Therapeutic, from the word therapy? A treatment to heal you when you’re sick or injured, not to prevent you from becoming sick or injured.

Those covid vaccines are administered before you’re sick to prevent illness or to lessen the effects - keep you alive or out of hospital.

Before — After

But hey, it’s Fox world, let’s just make facts up.

- Canada Cup


They work so great the UK is on their 2nd boosters. I don’t know about you but I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:58 PM ET
They work so great the UK is on their 2nd boosters. I don’t know about you but I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.
- bird_dog_pa


You people just constantly make poop up. It really is amusing. The UK has just authorized a third shot, a booster like the US and Canada. That’s a single booster, not two. The only difference is that they reduced the interval between second and third shots to three months instead of six months being used here.

But you be strong and keep vaccines out of your body and information out of your head. Life is simpler.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 3 @ 1:31 AM ET
I agree with Alexani, use three condoms per time, one on their top head and double wrap the other one.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 3 @ 1:33 AM ET
They work so great the UK is on their 2nd boosters. I don’t know about you but I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.
- bird_dog_pa


You are certainly not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I will leave it at that.
ElbowingPenalty
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.23.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:14 AM ET
You people just constantly make poop up. It really is amusing. The UK has just authorized a third shot, a booster like the US and Canada. That’s a single booster, not two. The only difference is that they reduced the interval between second and third shots to three months instead of six months being used here.

But you be strong and keep vaccines out of your body and information out of your head. Life is simpler.

- Canada Cup


Wait, you're bringing rational thought and educated responses to the HB forums? Is that a thing now?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 6:10 AM ET
You are certainly not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I will leave it at that.
- joegreif17


Where am I wrong old man. Not my problem reality and intellectual honesty is not your strong suit.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 6:13 AM ET
You people just constantly make poop up. It really is amusing. The UK has just authorized a third shot, a booster like the US and Canada. That’s a single booster, not two. The only difference is that they reduced the interval between second and third shots to three months instead of six months being used here.

But you be strong and keep vaccines out of your body and information out of your head. Life is simpler.

- Canada Cup


It’s not vaccine. Pfizer even states that on its website. Why did the CDC change the definition of a vaccine?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 7:45 AM ET
It’s not vaccine. Pfizer even states that on its website. Why did the CDC change the definition of a vaccine?
- bird_dog_pa


It’s a vaccine. Pfizer calls it a vaccine. Sorry if someone on your Facebook group has some cool theory to the contrary. But hey, keep making up facts to fit your preconceived view of the world.

https://www.pfizer.ca/pfi...comirnaty-children-ages-5
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Dec 3 @ 7:54 AM ET
I get that it makes it easier to discredit a major scientific study because reasons and that the whole notion of science is inconvenient. I presented one study that refutes one of the many idiotic ideas floating around in here and I’m the one spinning? There are plenty of others but I’m sure they’d be just as problematic.

You guys really do live in a post truth world.

There are valid reasons not to go to these Olympics and it’s up to the players to decide. The human rights issues are real. The consequences of testing positive while there are significant. BTW, the danger is not so much from the games being held in China but from being in confined quarters with athletes from all over the world - but again that doesn’t fit the Wuhan flu narrative.

- Canada Cup

So you can faithfully regurgitate promotional ads paid for by a trillion dollar industry that has repeatedly been fined for billions of dollars after being found guilty of suppressing the serious adverse effects, up to and including death, of drugs they've peddled over decades, bribing doctors to endorse their drugs and put their names to prewritten reports handed to them by that industry.

Two thirds of the FDA's budget for regulating drugs comes from the very pharmaceutical companies they're supposed to be regulating. Wow! No conflict of interest there!

And no it's not a vaccine in the traditional sense. It's an experimental gene therapy technology that had failed every single animal trial for going on twenty years which is why it could never get approval for human clinical trials.

That little bump in the road road was bypassed through the Emergency Use Authorization which was brought into play to deal with what was being peddled as the most dangerous virus the world has ever known.

They call it a vaccine because it makes people like you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I could go on but there's no point when speaking to people who know that if it was true it would be on television.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 8:01 AM ET
It’s a vaccine. Pfizer calls it a vaccine. Sorry if someone on your Facebook group has some cool theory to the contrary. But hey, keep making up facts to fit your preconceived view of the world.

https://www.pfizer.ca/pfi...comirnaty-children-ages-5

- Canada Cup


Mind you I have the Pfizer vaccine. I need explained to me why the continent of Africa has not seen mass covid fatalities? They have had the merest fraction of vaccines we have had in the U.S, yet they have far less fatalities. The entire continent of Africa has about 20% of the fatalities of the U.S. with about 1/10th of the vaccine dosages. Also, the continent of Africa has 1.2 billion people; America has 330 million.

There is no reasonable explanation as to why there are 5x more CCPovid deaths in America than Africa if these so called vaccines work.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 8:39 AM ET
It’s a vaccine. Pfizer calls it a vaccine. Sorry if someone on your Facebook group has some cool theory to the contrary. But hey, keep making up facts to fit your preconceived view of the world.

https://www.pfizer.ca/pfi...comirnaty-children-ages-5

- Canada Cup


First of all in the USA we don’t get Comirnaty. All the shots given are still under EUA.
My guess for this is that Pfizer is protected against culpability for damages from these shots.
Why is Pfizer now sponsoring ads on the radio to be aware of pulmonary embolisms?
Kind of suspect if you ask me.
If you want to get shots twice a year for covid then please do what you feel you need to do.
Flu shots not flu vaccines. Tetanus shots I have have never heard it called the tetanus vaccine.
If I inject myself with saline and aspirin does that make it a headache or pain vaccine? No, that would be absurd.
If these shots worked as advertised the islanders, Senators and Hershey bears of the AHL would not be postponing games.
What is the fatality rate of Covid? Are there therapeutics to treat Covid?
Are there specific groups prone to getting extremely sick and possibly succumbing to Covid?
Why do you trust the bureaucratic medical industry so much.
Fauci was so wrong about HIV in the 80’s and he is a political pawn for Covid.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 8:41 AM ET
Mind you I have the Pfizer vaccine. I need explained to me why the continent of Africa has not seen mass covid fatalities? They have had the merest fraction of vaccines we have had in the U.S, yet they have far less fatalities. The entire continent of Africa has about 20% of the fatalities of the U.S. with about 1/10th of the vaccine dosages. Also, the continent of Africa has 1.2 billion people; America has 330 million.

There is no reasonable explanation as to why there are 5x more CCPovid deaths in America than Africa if these so called vaccines work.

- lacaprup


In Africa they take hydroxychloriquine routinely for Malaria. Maybe it helps.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Dec 3 @ 8:48 AM ET
Any new Malkin roomerz?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
In Africa they take hydroxychloriquine routinely for Malaria. Maybe it helps.
- bird_dog_pa


Are there any numbers as to how many Africans take hydroxychloriquine routinely? Is it a massive percentage?
angryagain
Joined: 02.23.2014

Dec 3 @ 9:08 AM ET
How about you take the Olympics, covid, Trump and Biden and toss them all out.... all useless and create nothing but trouble.... can't believe how much hero worship a conman politician can get..... goes for both the ego trip taking Trump and Biden..both clowns... as would NHL players be going to China... I guess LeBron has influence in this league to....
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:19 AM ET
In Africa they take hydroxychloriquine routinely for Malaria. Maybe it helps.
- bird_dog_pa


They stopped using it as a frontline treatment in the mid 2000s when resistant forms if malaria emerged. Maybe they’re using giraffe paste.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 3 @ 9:37 AM ET
First of all in the USA we don’t get Comirnaty. All the shots given are still under EUA.
My guess for this is that Pfizer is protected against culpability for damages from these shots.
Why is Pfizer now sponsoring ads on the radio to be aware of pulmonary embolisms?
Kind of suspect if you ask me.
If you want to get shots twice a year for covid then please do what you feel you need to do.
Flu shots not flu vaccines. Tetanus shots I have have never heard it called the tetanus vaccine.
If I inject myself with saline and aspirin does that make it a headache or pain vaccine? No, that would be absurd.
If these shots worked as advertised the islanders, Senators and Hershey bears of the AHL would not be postponing games.
What is the fatality rate of Covid? Are there therapeutics to treat Covid?
Are there specific groups prone to getting extremely sick and possibly succumbing to Covid?
Why do you trust the bureaucratic medical industry so much.
Fauci was so wrong about HIV in the 80’s and he is a political pawn for Covid.

- bird_dog_pa


Sorry bud, the flu shot is a vaccine. The tetanus shot is a vaccine. And regrettably injecting yourself with saline and aspirin would not be a vaccine. As I’ve tried to explain, anything that treats an existing illness or pain is a therapeutic - therapy.

And yes there are therapies for Covid, some have been around and some new, more promising ones are emerging. Combining efforts to slow infections and treating people who are sick is pretty standard.

The pharma industry disgusts me but I see a lot fewer people on Fox screaming about he Sacklers deliberately murdering people for profit than I see comparing Fauci to Mengele because he wants people to wear masks.
Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:44 AM ET
(frank) china
- poopstash



Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Dec 3 @ 9:44 AM ET
It just isn’t right. Lebron has been a loyal puppet for China and now he gets their Flu.
- Minnyhock


The Fauchi/China Flu
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:50 AM ET
They stopped using it as a frontline treatment in the mid 2000s when resistant forms if malaria emerged. Maybe they’re using giraffe paste.
- Canada Cup[/

That may be the case for malaria but some African countries are treating consenting patients with it.
I’m not suggesting it’s a miracle drug but let’s face it Lancet was debunked when they ran the dangers of the study of hydroxychloriquine.
If I had Covid symptoms I would get the ivermectin protocol and steroidal treatment.
The alternative is what go home and wait to get better or even more sick.
At that point go to the hospital with low oxygen levels? Get put on a ventilator and get remdesiver that can cause liver damage?
No thanks.
You do know that these bio companies cannot keep their EUA if there are alternative treatments for a disease right?
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Dec 3 @ 9:51 AM ET
Scott Gorton introductory presser at 10 am...Dawn of a new era, let's go baby!!




bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 9:56 AM ET
Sorry bud, the flu shot is a vaccine. The tetanus shot is a vaccine. And regrettably injecting yourself with saline and aspirin would not be a vaccine. As I’ve tried to explain, anything that treats an existing illness or pain is a therapeutic - therapy.

And yes there are therapies for Covid, some have been around and some new, more promising ones are emerging. Combining efforts to slow infections and treating people who are sick is pretty standard.

The pharma industry disgusts me but I see a lot fewer people on Fox screaming about he Sacklers deliberately murdering people for profit than I see comparing Fauci to Mengele because he wants people to wear masks.

- Canada Cup


I’m glad you live in the world where if something doesn’t fit your narrative you change the definition of things so it does.
I don’t have all the answers for sure but when things don’t make sense I will question why. When those questions are ignored, censored or vilified it just makes me question more.
Trump is proud of the shots getting pushed through and recommends people get them.
So what!
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