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Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
I’ve never seen people talk so much about a first pairing D man (provy) needing to be paired w a “good” defenseman to play well.

A good dman makes mediocre partners good
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
Dave Scott needs to go.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
Wow. Seeler on with provie?

Good to see Hayes name. Don’t mind the line shake up but the second line is still a little small.

Do like Scott is back at wing.

- Peter Richards


Does that mean they bumped provy down to the 3rd pair?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
I’ve never seen people talk so much about a first pairing D man (provy) needing to be paired w a “good” defenseman to play well.

A good dman makes mediocre partners good

- Fopa21


Agreed, thats just a load of crap that some people go on about. Ive never heard that said about any other Dman. Youre good or not, weve seen him with how many different partners? So basicially nisky made provy realy good. and he is just good with anyone else.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
My god what are they doing with Seeler on the top pair. Ahmadinejad and bread man gonna tap dance on their skulls.
- Hextall271


building an excellent excuse base??


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
20 games in and it’s Lines in a blender time
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
20 games in and it’s Lines in a blender time
- Just5


Yeah. Doesn't smack of desperation at all..
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Dec 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
I hope we don't get screwed out of the first pick..

Usually when we're awful there is no concensus #1 or we get the second pick.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
That second line will be pinned in the D zone all game
- Fopa21


1) The Rangers are ranked 31st (dead last) in team Corsi . Flyers not much better at 29th. Rangers (6th from bottom) and Flyers (3rd from bottom) are also under water in expected goals.

2) Only in three of nine periods so far have Frost's line been less than 48 percent in Corsi. There were two rough ones that pull the numbers down but overall, it hasn't been caved.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
While I can agree it's nice to see Hayes back, I'm gonna' say he shouldn't be playing. He's coming off two surgeries for the same issue, which he aggravated again for a 3rd time in his 2nd game back lol. He's missed 6 games, the team is looking horrible and miraculously he's good to go? This situation has trouble written all over it.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Agreed, thats just a load of crap that some people go on about. Ive never heard that said about any other Dman. Youre good or not, weve seen him with how many different partners? So basicially nisky made provy realy good. and he is just good with anyone else.
- bradster


He can perform up and down your lineup as needed, but if/when you play him with elite players you will get the max out of him. when he plays with lesser players he is an ok/descent performer.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
Problem is, you're gonna drag Provy down further. If Seeler gets 25 mins, look out 9-0 loss.
- Hextall271


it could get ugly. Just terrible they have no options by now.
bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Dec 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
My prediction for tonight's game.....


PAIN




For the viewers...

- hockeylover

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
1) The Rangers are ranked 31st (dead last) in team Corsi . Flyers not much better at 29th. Rangers (6th from bottom) and Flyers (3rd from bottom) are also under water in expected goals.

2) Only in three of nine periods so far have Frost's line been less than 48 percent in Corsi. There were two rough ones that pull the numbers down but overall, it hasn't been caved.

- bmeltzer


Rangers record is definitely a bit of a mirage. Like the Flyers, they've been giving up a metric (frank)ton of chances and their goalies have had to bail them out continuously. They won't have such a sterling record for long.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
Nice presser Flesh. I bet hockey savant Scott and Comcast bought your rosy story.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
While I can agree it's nice to see Hayes back, I'm gonna' say he shouldn't be playing. He's coming off two surgeries for the same issue, which he aggravated again for a 3rd time in his 2nd game back lol. He's missed 6 games, the team is looking horrible and miraculously he's good to go? This situation has trouble written all over it.
- Flyerfan2868



So, do you think the team is forcing him to play?


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
While I can agree it's nice to see Hayes back, I'm gonna' say he shouldn't be playing. He's coming off two surgeries for the same issue, which he aggravated again for a 3rd time in his 2nd game back lol. He's missed 6 games, the team is looking horrible and miraculously he's good to go? This situation has trouble written all over it.
- Flyerfan2868

100% he is pushing to come back because it’s the Ranger game.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
So, do you think the team is forcing him to play?
- MBFlyerfan

Probably more of Hayes saying he’s ready. Not sure how the medical staff can deem him fit with an injury like that
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 1 @ 12:44 PM ET

Hummmm…maybe this is an indication of sharing the shifts on the right side D so Braun or Risto will sometimes be with Provy also. Well, whoever he is with, Provy needs to play his best. Everyone needs to communicate and put forth their best. Excellent defense leads to good offense. Let’s see it. I will watch every second tonight. Get the W.

Let’s go Flyers!


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
Probably more of Hayes saying he’s ready. Not sure how the medical staff can deem him fit with an injury like that
- ClaudeFather



One would think he is the only one who can deem himself fit to play. And if he deems himself fit enough, should he play?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
I'm guessing Braun is nursing an injury and they want to limit his ice time?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Dec 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
Hopefully Reaves has his way all game.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
Fox on flyers would have put Fletch boy Seeler out "maybe"
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 1 @ 12:48 PM ET
I'm guessing Braun is nursing an injury and they want to limit his ice time?
- Dkos




It will be interesting to see how many minutes Seeler ACTUALLY gets with Provorov. My guess is that it wont be very many except maybe on the PK.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:48 PM ET
One would think he is the only one who can deem himself fit to play. And if he deems himself fit enough, should he play?
- MBFlyerfan

Yea only other thing is they could possibly judge by his skating. Granted he looked horrible skating in that Dallas game and they still let him back. Let’s just say the Flyers medical staff is not performing their best either.
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