Whatever LEAFer, you're just here to sabotage OUR TEAM
- Fredo

You said the quiet part out loud and it speaks to the obvious that nobody wants to touch

They could. They could also pick from the larger pool of candidates and increase their chances of success as shown by anglo clubs employing the french. How this isn't an accepted fact is beyond me
- Takemedrunkimhome

how you can't recognize that the quality of this pool of french candidates is high enough to not become a burden for this organization like you seem to think it has is also beyond me.

of course you don't trade for Horvat if you do a full rebuild
- fidopro

That's where it's headed....no?

Horvat is a UFA next year, not a wise move in my opinion, fix this thing the right way, quit throwing bandaids on it....

how you can't recognize that the quality of this pool of french candidates is high enough to not become a burden for this organization like you seem to think it has become is also beyond me.
- Pat1993

That's where it's headed....no?

Horvat is a UFA next year, not a wise move in my opinion, fix this thing the right way, quit throwing bandaids on it....
- OB

I don't know. Gorton and the next GM will decide that in the next few months

how you can't recognize that the quality of this pool of french candidates is high enough to not become a burden for this organization like you seem to think it has become is also beyond me.
- Pat1993

If the quality of the french candidate is high enough they'll get the job over the anglos. What you don't grasp is that there's a chance there may be a better coach who speaks english but will never get the chance because the french guy is "good enough-ish"

If the quality of the french candidate is high enough they'll get the job over the anglos. What you don't grasp is that there's a chance there may be a better coach who speaks english but will never get the chance because the french guy is "good enough-ish"
- Takemedrunkimhome

that is simply not true.

I don't know. Gorton and the next GM will decide that in the next few months
- fidopro

If it's not obvious to him, why did they even hire him? The roster and prospect pool screams rebuild,

I'm saying if the french guy is the best candidate hire him. If the anglo is the best hire him. By limiting your options to only french you limit your chances at finding the best hire. This isn't complicated
- Takemedrunkimhome

The best candidate is just a question of perception, a feeling during the interview. Being an imperfect science, why put yourself in the situation where you will be critized when there are plenty of competent french candidates you could hire and not alienate a portion of your fanbase.

That's not a good argument. How would the same team do with a good coach?
- Takemedrunkimhome

I just cannot remember one time where we hired a coach and I thought to myself: God... really wish that anglo speaking coach would have been considered.

You're blowing the issue out of proportion, imho.

I just cannot remember one time where we hired a coach and I thought to myself: God... really wish that anglo speaking coach would have been considered.

You're blowing the issue out of proportion, imho.
- Scabeh

I mean the only one I could think of would Trotz but he was never available when they made changes

If it's not obvious to him, why did they even hire him? The roster and prospect pool screams rebuild,
- OB

they hired him to rebuild the scouting and players development program. to advise the gm.
they could decide to go full rebuild, like they could decide to make a few big trades and keep going (like Roy seems to think btw)

If the quality of the french candidate is high enough they'll get the job over the anglos. What you don't grasp is that there's a chance there may be a better coach who speaks english but will never get the chance because the french guy is "good enough-ish"
- Takemedrunkimhome

you're saying this as if the habs had to "settle" for a subpar french coach while completely ignoring a vastly superior anglophone candidate, which doesn't seem to happen too often imho...

I mean the only one I could think of would Trotz but he was never available when they made changes
- Fredo

There are plenty of quality anglo coaches.

I just can't recall one of the "obvious great pick" ones was available and we just decided to pass on him to hire a french guy of "lesser" quality.

Maybe Gallant?

that is simply not true.
- fidopro

If you run a proper hiring process they will.

DD was a great hire right? Must have been the best coaching candidate any team in the league could have hired

If you run a proper hiring process they will.

DD was a great hire right? Must have been the best coaching candidate any team in the league could have hired
- Takemedrunkimhome

DD was given the interim to end the season, made it to the SCF and got a contract.

I mean how could you not keep him after the playoffs he just had?

you're saying this as if the habs had to "settle" for a subpar french coach while completely ignoring a vastly superior anglophone candidate, which doesn't seem to happen too often imho...
- Pat1993

Yeah the leaf hired the best coach in the world, Mike Babcock and it ushered a new era of greatness.

The best candidate is just a question of perception, a feeling during the interview. Being an imperfect science, why put yourself in the situation where you will be critized when there are plenty of competent french candidates you could hire and not alienate a portion of your fanbase.
- Fredo

Because you're supposed to be a leader, have a backbone, be somebody who is confident in their decisions and has courage in their convictions rather than giving a (frank) about being criticized...maybe?

If you run a proper hiring process they will.

DD was a great hire right? Must have been the best coaching candidate any team in the league could have hired
- Takemedrunkimhome

no they won't, they never did. proof has been made. when is the last time a french speaking coach has been hired by an anlgo team? not a former Habs coach, a new one? there are many many good ones waiting in the AHL for years now. it's who you know. and with 30 anglo teams... well it's 30 anglo coaches. as simple as that.

they hired him to rebuild the scouting and players development program. to advise the gm.
they could decide to go full rebuild, like they could decide to make a few big trades and keep going (like Roy seems to think btw)
- fidopro

Another good reason not to hire Roy

no they won't, they never did. proof has been made. when is the last time a french speaking coach has been hired by an anlgo team? not a former Habs coach, a new one? there are many many good ones waiting in the AHL for years now. it's who you know. and with 30 anglo teams... well it's 30 anglo coaches. as simple as that.
- fidopro

Guy Boucher?

I just cannot remember one time where we hired a coach and I thought to myself: God... really wish that anglo speaking coach would have been considered.

You're blowing the issue out of proportion, imho.
- Scabeh

Ok...here's my point because I accept the language thing:

I accept the language thing and won't argue it happening because I get it but if people want to argue it isn't limiting then I will argue that because there is no honest argument to make that it isn't. There are BS ones about assumptions of similar competence but the truth is the larger the pool of talent you look at the greater chance of finding the best candidate. That's it. Simple math

you're saying this as if the habs had to "settle" for a subpar french coach while completely ignoring a vastly superior anglophone candidate, which doesn't seem to happen too often imho...
- Pat1993

Where do you rank DD against his 31 peers?

Guy Boucher?
- Scabeh

who was first hired by the Habs for their AHL team, but yes.
that was what, 10 years ago?

who was first hired by the Habs for their AHL team, but yes
- fidopro

Yeah if you add up the AHL team, there are none.