Roy is a fresh face as an exec just like the ones you mention. Torts as coach? Please! Not only do they want the coach to be fluent in French but they don’t want his first language to be profanity
- Karine Hains

Not related, but it made me think about Tortorella's comments last week.

The biggest whiner ever behind a bench whining on TV that McDavid whines too much. That was funny.

There’s no way Gorton hires Roy.

There must be something else to talk about..
- pete26

Gorton won't hire the GM, Molson will.

There’s no way Gorton hires Roy.

There must be something else to talk about..
- pete26

Baseball labour?
Covid?
Canadian politics?
Trump?
Wheel of Time episode four actually made me think the series may not suck.





Yup...

Gorton won't hire the GM, Molson will.
- fidopro

I don't agree with that. I imagine it's a collaborative effort, I can't see Gorton agreeing to his position in the first place without assurances on the hiring process for GM, coach, etc

I don't agree with that. I imagine it's a collaborative effort, I can't see Gorton agreeing to his position in the first place without assurances on the hiring process for GM, coach, etc
- Takemedrunkimhome

he'll help in the process which is normal since they will work together. needs to make sure it clicks. but make no mistake, the GM will report to Molson, so Molson will hire him.

Gorton won't hire the GM, Molson will.
- fidopro

Pretty sure he’ll have a hand in it.

I’d need those assurances before I’d sign..

There’s no way Gorton hires Roy.

There must be something else to talk about..
- pete26

Yeah Kotkaniemi has really turned a corner. Goals in three straight games and really strong possession numbers. Seems like he's gotten used to playing in the Canes' system and is starting to thrive now that he's at C.

he'll help in the process which is normal since they will work together. needs to make sure it clicks. but make no mistake, the GM will report to Molson, so Molson will hire him.
- fidopro

Again, I'm not sure I agree with that. At a minimum I'd imagine Gorton has veto power, otherwise why would sign in the first place - he'd be the "puppet"

he'll help in the process which is normal since they will work together. needs to make sure it clicks. but make no mistake, the GM will report to Molson, so Molson will hire him.
- fidopro

So molson wants Roy and gorton doesnt.

Will he hire him?

Yeah I read that...i’m not sure i like the briere idea tbh... i like Roy’s winning pedigree and what he has meant for the Habs, having him as gm would be a bit like Lemieux saving the Pens. What did Briere do for the Habs besides using them to get a big time raise on the free market and finally playing for them once he was running on empty?
- Karine Hains

Gorton took on Drury as an AGM while GM to mould. Now he will take Briere as GM while President to mould.

Pretty sure he’ll have a hand in it.

I’d need those assurances before I’d sign..
- pete26

Yup

Yeah Kotkaniemi has really turned a corner. Goals in three straight games and really strong possession numbers. Seems like he's gotten used to playing in the Canes' system and is starting to thrive now that he's at C.
- BINGO!

Pretty mild winter so far, huh?

I’m quite pleased..

Yeah Kotkaniemi has really turned a corner. Goals in three straight games and really strong possession numbers. Seems like he's gotten used to playing in the Canes' system and is starting to thrive now that he's at C.
- BINGO!

Imagine playing a guy at his natural position and he plays better...his underlying/advanced numbers the last few games have been crazy too - especially that Seattle game

Again, I'm not sure I agree with that. At a minimum I'd imagine Gorton has veto power, otherwise why would sign in the first place - he'd be the "puppet"
- Takemedrunkimhome

agree or not that doesn't change a thing. it was clearly said that both will report to Molson.

I could see the following take place. we'll know as soon as the GM is hired.

Molson - Predisent
reporting to him, 2 vps : Gorton and the next GM

Gorton who will act as a senior advisor to the GM, but also manage amateur scouting, drafting and players development. which is his strong suit. lots of work there, crucial work.

next GM, who will manage the team, trades, contracts, UFAs, pro scouting.

like Molson said : "The two of them will be working together to make good decisions for the good of the organization. When something has to happen that's team-related, the general manager has to be the final responsible person in making that decision and be accountable for it,"

he'll help in the process which is normal since they will work together. needs to make sure it clicks. but make no mistake, the GM will report to Molson, so Molson will hire him.
- fidopro

Gorton is currently the smartest man they have in the organization concerning building a hockey team, pretty sure Molson is gonna listen to what he has to say... not sure why you're so convinced about how these power-sharing dynamics are going to be applied.

agree or not that doesn't change a thing. it was clearly said that the both will report to Molson.

I could see the following take place. we'll know as soon as the GM is hired.

Molson - Predisent
reporting to him, 2 vps : Gorton and the next GM

Gorton who will act as a senior advisor to the GM, but also manage amateur scouting, drafting and players development. which is his strong suit. lots of work there, crucial work.

next GM, who will manage the team, trades, contracts, UFAs, pro scouting.

like Molson said : "The two of them will be working together to make good decisions for the good of the organization. When something has to happen that's team-related, the general manager has to be the final responsible person in making that decision and be accountable for it,"
- fidopro

I believe literally nothing somebody that would sell snake oil and call it beer has to say...plus all the other BS Molson has said over the years to prove not to trust him

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So molson wants Roy and gorton doesnt.

Will he hire him?
- pete26

you manage people Pete? I know I did. I was in the exact same position once. I had to hire 2 employees who would have to work together. I invited one to attend the interview of the second. asked him what he though of the guy afterwards... you want them to succeed.
of course if Gorton says no way jose, Molson will think about it twice before hiring him. but at the end of the day, it's Molson who will hire the guy. and fire him too.

yeah, we just have to wait and see. I'd be surprised if Molson picks Roy. not disppointed but surprised.
- fidopro

It's not going to be Roy.. but it would be fun and there's no proof the team would be worse off.

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- AGalchenyuk27

How much did the Iles charge for the rights?

It's not going to be Roy.. but it would be fun and there's no proof the team would be worse off.
- Fredo

There's no proof putting a stuffed Baby Yoda doll behind the bench wouldn't make for a good coach but that doesn't make it a good idea

I believe literally nothing somebody that would sell snake oil and call it beer has to say...plus all the other BS Molson has said over the years to prove not to trust him
- Takemedrunkimhome

ah! now you tell me!
good, I'll go make myself a sandwich.

There's no proof putting a stuffed Baby Yoda doll behind the bench wouldn't make for a good coach but that doesn't make it a good idea
- Takemedrunkimhome

...

Gorton is currently the smartest man they have in the organization concerning building a hockey team, pretty sure Molson is gonna listen to what he has to say... not sure why you're so convinced about how these power-sharing dynamics are going to be applied.
- Pat1993

that has nothing to do with how smart Gorton is Pat. you hire an employee who will report to you. you're accountable. you make the dicision. period.

as for the sharing of power, same thing. Molson said the GM will be accountable for the team related decisions. that means he'll be in charge of making these decisions (trades contract...) leaving the draft and develpment to Gorton which I repeat is his strong suit.

ah! now you tell me!
good, I'll go make myself a sandwich.
- fidopro

My point is simply...Molson says stuff all the time...I'm not going to hang my hat on the idea that he's telling the truth in full based on previous experiences.

I don't think you're wrong in saying Molson says X so you have no reason to think otherwise. Conversely I don't think I'm wrong based on track record not to believe Molson.

Sometimes stuff can be two things...or something