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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
Human bites are bad, there's a surprising amount of harmful bacteria in the human mouth and barring rabies they're more dangerous and prone to infection than many animal bites



It blows my mind that this is on-topic on a hockey forum

- TheMussel


Oh I understand that. Cross checks, hits to the head, which have immediate injuries come at lower suspensions. I find that narrative rather funny.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Oh I understand that. Cross checks, hits to the head, which have immediate injuries come at lower suspensions. I find that narrative rather funny.
- Aaron_85

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:10 PM ET

- TheMussel




Legal, game on.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:13 PM ET

- TheMussel


What a cheap Elbow to Edmundson's chest.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
What a cheap Elbow to Edmundson's chest.

- Scabeh


Cheap is all the leafs can afford
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:21 PM ET
Basically it's a chart of defensemen who, once they have the puck in the defensive zone, do a good job of moving the puck out of the zone either with or without possession. So basically the volume indicates frequency, and the efficiency indicates success of possessive zone exit.

It says that less sung guys like Russell or Dermott do a good job of moving the puck out - which is really not that surprising. It's not an indicator of play prevention, puck retrieval, positioning, battles won or any of the other elements that Dermott sometimes struggles with - but one thing we all know he IS good at, is making a good outlet pass.

- Monkeypunk

Yeah, I understand, generally, what they're attempting to show but it lacks true context in the form it has been presented in the tweet.

For example, for Volume, what is the exact number of attempts? Are we to believe the weight of Dermott's attempts should be on equal level to those of Pietro? Also, these numbers do not indicate the strength of competition each of these defenders are playing against -- should Dermott, on the third pair and playing against bottom lines, be scored with the same weight as, again, Pietro?

Also, when a zone has been cleared, is this simply dumping the puck out regardless of intended target (e.g. your own player or no one in particular)? Is this skating out with the puck? All things?

Again, I haven't read the article which may get into more specifics but it's these kinds of charts that are presented with very little context that I find difficult to glean anything very meaningful.

(I guess I should buy an Athletic subscription)
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:25 PM ET

- TheMussel

"Team Identity"
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 1 @ 12:30 PM ET

- 21peter


Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Look who’s back

How’s things man?

- Dozzer

Bruce - my main squeeze. how are you?

all good over here - just about to pop out il pop back in later
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yeah, I understand, generally, what they're attempting to show but it lacks true context in the form it has been presented in the tweet.

For example, for Volume, what is the exact number of attempts? Are we to believe the weight of Dermott's attempts should be on equal level to those of Pietro? Also, these numbers do not indicate the strength of competition each of these defenders are playing against -- should Dermott, on the third pair and playing against bottom lines, be scored with the same weight as, again, Pietro?

Also, when a zone has been cleared, is this simply dumping the puck out regardless of intended target (e.g. your own player or no one in particular)? Is this skating out with the puck? All things?

Again, I haven't read the article which may get into more specifics but it's these kinds of charts that are presented with very little context that I find difficult to glean anything very meaningful.

(I guess I should buy an Athletic subscription)

- mjones242


“Strength of comp”

Where are all the other 3rd pairings in the league?

He must be doing something right, I don’t mind him…I think he brings more then Holl most nights this year.

We can’t afford to be trading D, I’d rather hoard them and let them take turns playing in case of injuries.

Go Leafs Go
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
Turns out biting someone gets you more games then some serious offenses.
- Aaron_85

Biting is a serious offense and a very childish one.
Specially in the covidian/omicron age.
But yes headshots should come with longer suspensions as well.
If you were referring to that
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
“Strength of comp”

Where are all the other 3rd pairings in the league?

He must be doing something right, I don’t mind him…I think he brings more then Holl most nights this year.

We can’t afford to be trading D, I’d rather hoard them and let them take turns playing in case of injuries.

Go Leafs Go

- Garnie


I'm with you on this one Garnie. If the Leafs can move Holl ok, Dermott needs to be around till the Leafs have a replacement that fits under the cap.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
“Strength of comp”

Where are all the other 3rd pairings in the league?

He must be doing something right, I don’t mind him…I think he brings more then Holl most nights this year.

We can’t afford to be trading D, I’d rather hoard them and let them take turns playing in case of injuries.

Go Leafs Go

- Garnie

Agreed.
As much as we could use holls 2m, we are in no position to move out a D yet.
Move mickey after he comes back and kills a few plays.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
Biting is a serious offense and a very childish one.
Specially in the covidian/omicron age.
But yes headshots should come with longer suspensions as well.
If you were referring to that

- Fakepartofme


wasn't the age of omicron a marvel flick?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Dec 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
Bruce - my main squeeze. how are you?

all good over here - just about to pop out il pop back in later

- Lucas.Neilson



Dude…. When you come back, can you please return my hat?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
wasn't the age of omicron a marvel flick?
- TheMussel

Possibly....it more reminds me of the villain in the cartoon transformers movie from the 80's.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Agreed.
As much as we could use holls 2m, we are in no position to move out a D yet.
Move mickey after he comes back and kills a few plays.

- Fakepartofme

Meh.

Getting to that time where bottom pairing D can be had for pretty cheap.

I'd like them to cash in on Dermott's last bit of potential value and accumulate cap space for the TDL.

Plus I've watched a few Marlies games and I want to see Joey Duszak get a game or two. Rubins looks OK as well. Maybe as a 7th D.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Possibly....it more reminds me of the villain in the cartoon transformers movie from the 80's.
- Fakepartofme


Unicron eh
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Unicron eh
- TheMussel

Yes sir
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Biting is a serious offense and a very childish one.
Specially in the covidian/omicron age.
But yes headshots should come with longer suspensions as well.
If you were referring to that

- Fakepartofme


Headshots are missed during games regularly, partly because players play through the hit to avoid going to the spotters during the game. The recent hit on Kampf was called a two minute minor for tripping and wasn't even reviewed. It was a similar type hit that put Crosby out for a long time. It seems rather inconsistent to call penalties on minor infractions and fail to punish both players and teams for this stuff imo. Honestly, I don't give a (frank) about intention either.






Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
You know he's getting 4 points tonight, including the game winner, right?

Because Leafs.

- Atomic Wedgie


When I take off the blue, thick-framed glasses, sober up from the Kool Aid, and really contemplate tonight's game objectively, using only my just-talking-hockey persective...6-0 Leafs, Matthews hat trick, Nylander hat trick. Kadri flying elbow off the top turnbuckle on Campbell, Campbell out for the season, Kadri 20 games.


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
Blue Jays are gonna do something today. I can feel it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Blue Jays are gonna do something today. I can feel it.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I hope so.
Yesterday was so boring.
Lol
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Blue Jays are gonna do something today. I can feel it.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Freddie Freeman?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 1 @ 1:31 PM ET
“Strength of comp”

Where are all the other 3rd pairings in the league?

He must be doing something right, I don’t mind him…I think he brings more then Holl most nights this year.

We can’t afford to be trading D, I’d rather hoard them and let them take turns playing in case of injuries.

Go Leafs Go

- Garnie

I'm okay with off-loading Dermott and/or Holl as long as we have an upgrade on D coming back.

Let's face it: Muzzin is getting hurt again for the 3rd year in a row during the post-season.
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