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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
seriousy, these guys are winners. all their life they've been competitors, played to win. you think one would come here just to have a title but do nothing? and then get fired for decisions they didn't make?
that doesn't make any sense.
the GM, whoever it is, will have the final word and be accountable. yes he'll work with Gorton (who will probably manage the draft and development), but at the end of the day the GM will decide. that's what Molson said, and that's what makes the most sense. imho

- fidopro



thats a whole lot of assuming on things we know nothing about ( meaning : what goes behing closed doors)

I could really see somebody approaching this as a learning experience AND making his own name slowly...
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
For sure.... always preferred music to movies, especially since I bought the turntable a couple years back, got over 100 vinyls now, sounds so good!
- OB


They make for good decoration too, I wish I still had the Eye of the Tiger vinyl I had as a kid !
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
again, that won't happen. none of these candidates will come here to be a puppet. you can bet that it will be the first question they'll ask during their interview.
- fidopro


If Gorton wants to do A and the GM wants to do B, but they cannot do both...

... Who do you think gets their way?

Then you will know who is really I'm charge.

Hint: it ain't gonna be the GM.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
thats a whole lot of assuming on things we know nothing about ( meaning : what goes behing closed doors)

I could really see somebody approaching this as a learning experience AND making his own name slowly...

- Xizord

what kind of name will he make for himself? general puppet?
when the other 31 gms around the league call for a trade and realize it's Gordon who runs the show, you think the puppet will make a name for himself and be able to get a job elsewhere afterwards? that doesn't make any sense.
if that is the case, they will all decide they are better off remaining AGM where they are than jump in this crazy train.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
If Gorton wants to do A and the GM wants to do B, but they cannot do both...

... Who do you think gets their way?

Then you will know who is really I'm charge.

Hint: it ain't gonna be the GM.

- Mashadar

time will tell, but not what Molson said.
OB
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 11.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
They make for good decoration too, I wish I still had the Eye of the Tiger vinyl I had as a kid !
- Xizord


They're great, not cheap though
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Nov 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
I have no experience in hockey management but I imagine there are a few tiers of power between full autonomy and puppet
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: maybe one day I'll be as wise as you are Pete., ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:29 PM ET
time will tell, but not what Molson said.
- fidopro



Did you expect him to tell the truth?
OB
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 11.14.2021

Nov 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
Did you expect him to tell the truth?
- pete26



Always
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
Did you expect him to tell the truth?
- pete26

absolutely, and I think he did. thought he was genuine and honest, many reported the same thing.
what do you think will happen if he lies and 1 year from now we all realize the gm is a french puppet? you seriously think he needs the poop that would happen then?
he decided to split the job in 2, I don't see what is so complicated to understand. they will work together, challenge one an other, but at the end of the day the GM decides. that's what he said. not implied, said.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 30 @ 2:35 PM ET
time will tell, but not what Molson said.
- fidopro


What Molson said is they will work together, what Molson said is it was a 2 headed beast, what Molson implied is the Gorton will set the direction and the GM will execute on it.

Gorton is running the show here.

No question about it.

You think Molson is going to publically admit that his French GM is not really in charge, but the Anglo guy over there really is?

C'mon.

Believe what you want, but a Darche or Briere are not gonna come in and be in charge or make the decisions.

LOL
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
What Molson said is they will work together, what Molson said is it was a 2 headed beast, what Molson implied is the Gorton will set the direction and the GM will execute on it.

Gorton is running the show here.

No question about it.

You think Molson is going to publically admit that his French GM is not really in charge, but the Anglo guy over there really is?

C'mon.

Believe what you want, but a Darche or Briere are not gonna come in and be in charge or make the decisions.

LOL

- Mashadar

not at all what he said, but you're free to believe what you want.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
I have no experience in hockey management but I imagine there are a few tiers of power between full autonomy and puppet
- Takemedrunkimhome


I think it ranges from being able to decide your own pee breaks to as much as getting to decide what is at the morning snack table and picking the take out for Friday office lunch.

Likely somewhere in between, though
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
absolutely, and I think he did. thought he was genuine and honest, many reported the same thing.
what do you think will happen if he lies and 1 year from now we all realize the gm is a french puppet? you seriously think he needs the poop that would happen then?
he decided to split the job in 2, I don't see what is so complicated to understand. they will work together, challenge one an other, but at the end of the day the GM decides.

- fidopro


I have no clue whether or not the next GM will just be Gorton's puppet, but if it is the case I highly doubt we'll really know about it.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Nov 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
I have no clue whether or not the next GM will just be Gorton's puppet, but if it is the case I highly doubt we'll really know about it.
- Pat1993

what if we're already a know it all?
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , TX
Joined: 02.05.2013

Nov 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
I have no clue whether or not the next GM will just be Gorton's puppet, but if it is the case I highly doubt we'll really know about it.
- Pat1993

You're a puppet you are!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Nov 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
You're a puppet you are!
- AGalchenyuk27

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
I have no clue whether or not the next GM will just be Gorton's puppet, but if it is the case I highly doubt we'll really know about it.
- Pat1993

it's a small world Pat, news travel fast.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
what if we're already a know it all?
- kicksave856



then we all need to be hired together, as an HB General Management group for the habs.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
I have no clue whether or not the next GM will just be Gorton's puppet, but if it is the case I highly doubt we'll really know about it.
- Pat1993


But Molson said so….
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
Did you expect him to tell the truth?
- pete26


Parole de Scout !
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
They're great, not cheap though
- OB


its ok, we all know you are rich !!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Nov 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
then we all need to be hired together, as an HB General Management group for the habs.
- Pat1993

25 people just talking over each other trying to explain why their opinion is not only the correct opinion, but actually fact.

maybe we should just root for roy to get the job.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
it's a small world Pat, news travel fast.
- fidopro



meh, if the GM constantly speaks to the media while Gorton quietly sits in the background we'll all have the impression the GM is making the decisions, while it might not be the case. anyways I doubt he would be a complete puppet, but someone with not that much experience will surely be strongly influenced by a guy like Gorton, which might not be such a bad thing after all.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
25 people just talking over each other trying to explain why their opinion is not only the correct opinion, but actually fact.

maybe we should just root for roy to get the job.

- kicksave856

like he would sign just to execute what Gorton would dictate. sure....
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