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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 29 @ 11:08 AM ET
No one in management should be safe. The Flyers are in the same spot in the standings they were in 2018 when Hextall got fired.
- Feanor


Is Brian Roberts a Flyers fan? What would it take for him to get rid of Dave Scott?
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Nov 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
Bergevin is available
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
Is Brian Roberts a Flyers fan? What would it take for him to get rid of Dave Scott?
- StepfordSam


Have this figure drop to 85%, and stay there.

Omicron is coming. Stoppages and empty arenas are a virtual certainty.

Dave Scott is safe, sorry.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Best thing is coots going down long term if it happens
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Best thing is coots going down long term if it happens
- Just5


Not at all. Why would you want the teams best player to be injured long term?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
Have this figure drop to 85%, and stay there.

Omicron is coming. Stoppages and empty arenas are a virtual certainty.

Dave Scott is safe, sorry.

- PT21


lol fear-mongering at its finest
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
Not at all. Why would you want the teams best player to be injured long term?
- PLindbergh31

For tanks sake
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
lol fear-mongering at its finest
- corduroy



There will always be a new variant just down the road.....
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
For tanks sake
- Pixote Andolini


Maybe they can draft another Nolan Patrick.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Bill, I agree with pretty much all you said with the exception of this statement. "Noticeably, the much-improved defensive structure the team showed early on -- which was hardly mentioned and erroneously chalked up by some entirely to the goaltending". With all disrespect, it can't be said about a team that was bleeding scoring chances all season and among the bottom in SCA rate. Now some of this can certainly be blamed on the Flyers lack of ability overall as a team to being able to drive play and have extended attack time. After all, the more time you spend in your own end, the more chances you will give up. Defending in the NHL does not have the same definition as it used to have. If you're bleeding chances, you simply are not defending well. Same on the PK. At the bottom of the league in suppressing high danger chances. The PK percentage is all about the goaltending. Same at 5 on 5. What we're seeing now was all but inevitable. It was predictable. Adding Ellis would help some but not likely to have a significant effect if the rest of the team doesn't get it's act together.
- MJL

good post
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
"The Flyers will have to play much, much better -- and not just for a shift here and nice play there -- to defeat the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden come Tuesday night."
(Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Winless Streak at Six after 5-2 Loss in NJ)

- bmeltzer

I thought the game is Wednesday night. Has there been a schedule change following the postponed meeting versus the Islanders?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
lol fear-mongering at its finest
- corduroy


Please don't open the door for him.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
lol fear-mongering at its finest
- corduroy



In that case, you will surely take up the following bet?

$100, straight up, if there are no stoppages/empty arenas due to Omicron?

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 29 @ 11:28 AM ET
In that case, you will surely take up the following bet?

$100, straight up, if there are no stoppages/empty arenas due to Omicron?


- PT21


Nobody will take that bet.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Someone said it yesterday, has captain comfortable had his players only meeting yet?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Have this figure drop to 85%, and stay there.

Omicron is coming. Stoppages and empty arenas are a virtual certainty.

Dave Scott is safe, sorry.

- PT21


Omicron is a big nothing burger. Nothing is going to be shut down again.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Someone said it yesterday, has captain comfortable had his players only meeting yet?
- hello it's me 2050


Closed door meeting after the Rangers loss.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
In that case, you will surely take up the following bet?

$100, straight up, if there are no stoppages/empty arenas due to Omicron?


- PT21


Another risk taken huh?


There are already game cancellations taking place.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
Maybe they can draft another Nolan Patrick.
- PLindbergh31

What else is there to do? Teams can't buy players like they used to. The best you can do is what NJ and NYR did - with overpayment at UFA; Hamilton, Panarin, etc., but you've got to have heaps of cap space. The Flyers have mismanaged their space since it was implemented.

It's a shame Provorov has turned into a sort of not quite all-star defenseman when his potential was there to be a proper Norris trophy calibre player. It's a shame Nolan Patrick turned out to be what he is. It's a shame when the Flyers were hands down the worst team in the league and landed the 2nd overall pick - JvR as opposed to landing a quasi-generational player in Patty Kane. It's a shame the Flyers traded the barn, Forsberg, and millions for a generational player that never won the Flyers a cup.

It's a shame.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:31 AM ET
For tanks sake
- Pixote Andolini


They would just LTIR him.

I am more optimistic about the Ellis situation. He might just be the millstone instead of lodestar that we need. I am expecting 55 odd games from him a year. Enough to not be LTIRed. Not enough to prevent steady sinking.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 29 @ 11:32 AM ET
There are already game cancellations taking place.
- MJL

Technically, no games have been cancelled yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
What else is there to do? Teams can't buy players like they used to. The best you can do is what NJ and NYR did - with overpayment at UFA; Hamilton, Panarin, etc., but you've got to have heaps of cap space. The Flyers have mismanaged their space since it was implemented.

It's a shame Provorov has turned into a sort of not quite all-star defenseman when his potential was there to be a proper Norris trophy calibre player. It's a shame Nolan Patrick turned out to be what he is. It's a shame when the Flyers were hands down the worst team in the league and landed the 2nd overall pick - JvR as opposed to landing a quasi-generational player in Patty Kane. It's a shame the Flyers traded the barn, Forsberg, and millions for a generational player that never won the Flyers a cup.

It's a shame.

- Pixote Andolini


I remember when Provorov first came up and there was talk of Norris trophies in his future. He was never that player. Never had the offensive overall game. Make no mistake about it though, Provorov is still a really good player. If he was on a quality team, he would be a player that Flyers fans would covet.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
Omicron is a big nothing burger. Nothing is going to be shut down again
- StepfordSam


No it is not.

Except the air travel already being shut down? Japan closed its borders a few hours ago.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 29 @ 11:36 AM ET
It’s a relief to me that more than half of the fans who post here, know exactly what the problem is and how to fix it. It’s a real comfort.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
Technically, no games have been cancelled yet.
- Bendecko


Even more technically, Omicron hasn't even been detected in the US yet. Just a few cases in the US.

All cancellations/delays occurrring in sports in North America now have absolutely nothing to do with omicron.

However, best not argue with the cretin.

EDIT: Canada
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