Tom Brady’s defences in terms of points scored.

2001: 6th
2002: 17th
2003: 1st
2004: 2nd
2005: 17th
2006: 2nd
2007: 4th
2009: 5th
2010: 8th
2011: 15th
2012: 9th
2013: 10th
2014: 8th
2015: 10th
2016: 1st
2017: 5th
2018: 7th
2019: 1st
2020: 8th
2021: 9th (as of 11/26/21)

🔥 Top-10: 17x in 20 years 🔥

Tom Brady has 17 TD & 12 INT & a 89.4 Passer Rating in his Conference Championship game wins.

Tom Brady has 21 TD & 17 INT & a 82.7 Passer Rating in his Conference Championships games overall.
- Pegullaville

your numbers are normally worse when your in the final 8 and final 4 vs when your playing the jets and miami

It’s always been efficient QB play, strong run game, strong defence.

See the New England Patriots.

They won 4 Super Bowls without elite QB play and are sitting at 8-4 with the pillsburry dough boy
- Pegullaville

You're not only living in a different country, you're living on a different planet.

Tom Brady = elite

Tom Brady’s defences in terms of points scored. N

2001: 6th
2002: 17th
2003: 1st
2004: 2nd
2005: 17th
2006: 2nd
2007: 4th
2009: 5th
2010: 8th
2011: 15th
2012: 9th
2013: 10th
2014: 8th
2015: 10th
2016: 1st
2017: 5th
2018: 7th
2019: 1st
2020: 8th
2021: 9th (as of 11/26/21)

🔥 Top-10: 17x in 20 years 🔥
- Pegullaville

and if they were top 10 in 5 of the 20 years, he would still have the most rings of any qb

Right, and in 4 of those seasons he was an efficient but not elite QB.

Not to mention;

Tom Brady has 17 TD & 12 INT & a 89.4 Passer Rating in his Conference Championship game wins.

Tom Brady has 21 TD & 17 INT & a 82.7 Passer Rating in his Conference Championships games overall.
- Pegullaville

4QB’s in the last 29 superbowls wont be in the hall of fame. I cant make this Sh*t up dude.

Your argument is just dumb. You believe something that is false.

In last 20 years of superbowls only 3 Quarterbacks that Won wont be going to the hall of fame. THREE

This argument that you dont need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl is dumb. Like seriously dumb. Like as dumb as dumb. Really just dumb

Wanna do the 10 superbowls before that? Only 1 of those 10 superbowls had QB’s not in the hall of fame.

DUMB
- ZiggyBuff

brady takes up 7 of those spots, eli 2, peyton 2, big ben 2

trent dilfer 1
brad johnson 1
drew brees 1
aaron rogers 1
joe flacco 1
russel wilson 1
nick foles 1

in that instance, the player who's path to the goal was impeded gets the shot...if, say, a player places his hand over the puck in the crease, it's any on the ice at the time
- Michael Pachla

👍

Appreciate the explanation.

You're not only living in a different country, you're living on a different planet.

Tom Brady = elite
- Boss34

https://www.espn.com/nfl/...stats/_/id/2330/tom-brady

look at the tds to ints every year

the yards

the number of years he made the playoffs


there is a reason he is the g.o.a.t.

brady takes up 7 of those spots, eli 2, peyton 2, big ben 2

trent dilfer 1
brad johnson 1
drew brees 1
aaron rogers 1
joe flacco 1
russel wilson 1
nick foles 1
- Michael Pachla

The argument is you dont need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl.

25/29 superbowl winners are hall of famers or will be in the hall.

Given these facts what would you say? Do you need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2330/tom-brady

look at the tds to ints every year

the yards

the number of years he made the playoffs


there is a reason he is the g.o.a.t.
- homiedclown

nobody is arguing that

nobody is arguing that
- Michael Pachla

"in 4 of those seasons he was an efficient but not elite QB."


disagree

The argument is you dont need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl.

25/29 superbowl winners are hall of famers or will be in the hall.

Given these facts what would you say? Do you need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl?
- ZiggyBuff

an elite qb gives said team a huge advantage...period...end of discussion

Here's an absolute, anything can happen in a single game, but it is absolutely no coincidence that the best QB ever has 7 Super Bowl rings, and the best ever RB has none.
- Wetbandit1

WET1 - you're killing peg'sville.

He will never admit he's wrong. ☝️












Ever

The argument is you dont need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl.

25/29 superbowl winners are hall of famers or will be in the hall.

Given these facts what would you say? Do you need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl?
- ZiggyBuff

EDIT : Only one that would be on the fringe now is Wilson

an elite qb gives said team a huge advantage...period...end of discussion
- Michael Pachla

the vikings are 5-5 because they have decent qb play


the 49ers are 5-5 because they have poor qb play

and if they were top 10 in 5 of the 20 years, he would still have the most rings of any qb
- homiedclown

How many more rings would Peyton and Rodgers have if the roles were reversed ?

What has Wilson done in the playoffs since the Seahawks stoped handing him elite defences ?

All I know is Joe Flacco has one of the best winning percentages in NFL Post season history, has won the most road playoff games ever, and is ranked top 10 in playoff wins in general.

an elite qb gives said team a huge advantage...period...end of discussion
- Michael Pachla

Trust me I wish it was. But if you keep seeing someone bang there head against a wall for years now, you gotta try to help the fella out Aaaaa.

EDIT : Only one that would be on the fringe now is Wilson
- ZiggyBuff

wilson is 28th in all time passing yards, easily will retire in the top 12

https://www.pro-football-...aders/pass_yds_career.htm

In last 20 years of superbowls only 3 Quarterbacks that Won wont be going to the hall of fame. THREE

This argument that you dont need a elite quarterback to win a superbowl is dumb. Like seriously dumb. Like as dumb as dumb. Really just dumb

Wanna do the 10 superbowls before that? Only 1 of those 10 superbowls had QB’s not in the hall of fame.

DUMB
- ZiggyBuff

This is such a telling post. Excellent post really.



It wont make a difference though....

wilson is 28th in all time passing yards, easily will retire in the top 12

https://www.pro-football-...aders/pass_yds_career.htm
- homiedclown

Genesis was spectacular last night.

wilson is 28th in all time passing yards, easily will retire in the top 12

https://www.pro-football-...aders/pass_yds_career.htm
- homiedclown

Thank you for bringing back from the dark side. Ok so 25 or last 29 superbowl winners are HOF. So isnt that like SUPER elite quarterback play then?

EDIT : Only one that would be on the fringe now is Wilson
- ZiggyBuff

Wilson wasn’t elite when the legion of boom skapped Peyton Manning and his 55 TD passes.

Big Ben was not elite in his first SB.

Both will go in the hall of fame also winning SB’s with efficient passing seasons on the back of elite defences

Bergeron now fired in Montreal

How many more rings would Peyton and Rodgers have if the roles were reversed ?

What has Wilson done in the playoffs since the Seahawks stoped handing him elite defences ?

All I know is Joe Flacco has one of the best winning percentages in NFL Post season history, has won the most road playoff games ever, and is ranked top 10 in playoff wins in general.
- Pegullaville

where do you rank flaco on this list of qbs

https://www.pro-football-...s_yds_career_playoffs.htm





I have him in the 25-30 range and probably being kind

Genesis was spectacular last night.
- Powerslave

glad to hear it

the few clips I heard was good, sounded like his voice was better