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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/28/21 @ NJ; Phantoms Update
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konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 28 @ 7:19 PM ET
In my opinion you are incorrect that he signed JVR thinking the team was ready to contend. Hextall was correct that the team needed to remain patient and focus on drafting and developing.
- MJL

He is part of the depth right?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM ET
Scoring goals and playing from ahead does fix a lot of other problems
- jd250


Well that’s not happening tonight. Already looks like another loss.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM ET
In my opinion you are incorrect that he signed JVR thinking the team was ready to contend. Hextall was correct that the team needed to remain patient and focus on drafting and developing.
- MJL

yes, but then why sign JVR??
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 28 @ 7:21 PM ET
Have the Flyers had more than :10 of zone time?

Devils are permanent residents in the Flyers' end.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 28 @ 7:21 PM ET
yes, but then why sign JVR??
- jd250

Simmonds was likely on the way out and we were weak on the left side at the time
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
yes, but then why sign JVR??
- jd250


To add some goal scoring and to appease management.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
I don’t even know who to blame there. Both defenders just watched and let Hamilton stand there.
- SuperSchennBros

IMO it was between Sanheim or Couts to cover Hamilton in the slot there, Risto was covering the NJ forward on the weak side where I thought at first that pass was going to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:23 PM ET
Have the Flyers had more than :10 of zone time?

Devils are permanent residents in the Flyers' end.

- Tomahawk


Flyers executing that modern cutting edge breakout scheme that every other team in the league is trying to emulate.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:24 PM ET
To add some goal scoring and to appease management.
- MJL

When you say appease management, wasn't that ultimately the reason Hextall was fired, because he in fact did not appease managements desire to move the process along faster? I feel the way you word this it absolves Hextall from any responsibility of signing JVR.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:24 PM ET
Flyers executing that modern cutting edge breakout scheme that every other team in the league is trying to emulate.
- MJL


Worse than anything else, they’re boring as hell to watch.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:26 PM ET
Flyers executing that modern cutting edge breakout scheme that every other team in the league is trying to emulate.
- MJL

true, there is just nothing smooth or easy about their zone breakouts, which is why they produce so many neutral zone turnovers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
IMO it was between Sanheim or Couts to cover Hamilton in the slot there, Risto was covering the NJ forward on the weak side where I thought at first that pass was going to.
- jd250


Konecny.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
When you say appease management, wasn't that ultimately the reason Hextall was fired, because he in fact did not appease managements desire to move the process along faster? I feel the way you word this it absolves Hextall from any responsibility of signing JVR.
- jd250



JVR for the most part has been a good player for the Flyers. He was their leading scorer last season. He has one more year on his deal. Like pretty much every player on the team currently, he has not played well overall this year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
Konecny.
- MJL

yes, well just another example of defensive coverage breakdowns .. I really have a hard time blaming the coach for this, shouldn't TK know what to do and who to cover there? I mean he is not a rookie!
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
To add some goal scoring and to appease management.
- MJL


did management tell ronnie to sign jvr?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
IMO it was between Sanheim or Couts to cover Hamilton in the slot there, Risto was covering the NJ forward on the weak side where I thought at first that pass was going to.
- jd250

https://platform.twitter....1619632193066&width=550px

Risto decided to play man and not rotate
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM ET
Devils aren't very good, but damned if they're not a lot better than the Flyers.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:31 PM ET
who wants to bet the Flyers make Blackwood look like Vasey tonight? That is of course if they can actually make it out of their own end!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
yes, well just another example of defensive coverage breakdowns .. I really have a hard time blaming the coach for this, shouldn't TK know what to do and who to cover there? I mean he is not a rookie!
- jd250



I don't have a hard time blaming the coaches. Just saw another slot chance for the Devils. The Flyers going back to all of last season have struggled with AV's strong side overload/man to man coverage scheme.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM ET
JVR for the most part has been a good player for the Flyers. He was their leading scorer last season. He has one more year on his deal. Like pretty much every player on the team currently, he has not played well overall this year.
- MJL

yes, agreed, I'm just thinking back to when he was signed, I thought Hextall was not going to sign any big contracts for outside players until he felt the team was ready to contend. If he signed JVR without believing the team was ready to take a major step forward, this was a bad move.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM ET
Konecny.
- MJL

He is part of the depth, right?
Put me on the list again.
Just answer an easy ?

Who is our depth?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
Same old thing. Flyers keep putting the puck up the wall into a puck battle. Continually giving up possession.
- MJL

Flyers never had possession in their genepol
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
Hello fellow Flyers Buzzards. Just turned on the game to see them losing... AGAIN. What's the in-game report from the keyboard GMs here?
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
I don't have a hard time blaming the coaches. Just saw another slot chance for the Devils. The Flyers going back to all of last season have struggled with AV's strong side overload/man to man coverage scheme.
- MJL

But you never blamed Hakstool though.
Funny how you change your mind as it suits your blowhard narrative.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
I can't believe this 💩 team is caped out
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