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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/28/21 @ NJ; Phantoms Update
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:35 AM ET
Like what he's done? Ristolainen has been pretty bad, Ellis doesn't play. Outside of a hot start, Atkinson has been pretty pedestrian. What has Fletcher done that has worked?
- PLindbergh31


Chris Stewart
Nate Thompson 2x
Martin "I stole a point" Jones
Hired AV

That is all I got
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:36 AM ET
Wasn't it a pleasure watching a top defenseman like Hamilton play tonight? Man I wish the Flyers had signed him.
- MJL


All day and no answer to our never endless depth...
Would Hamilton = depth?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:36 AM ET
Now you know that is not happening. What may happen is if Risto wants a $6.5M+ for 5+ years type of deal, CF may balk at it and I would too. The way Risto has played this season, with all the ups and downs, I think his current number is where he should be, and I personally would not pay him much above $6M per.
- jd250


That is what made this trade so bad -- cf overpaid for a mid-level D man with no term left on his contract
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 8:36 AM ET
Not much on the UFA market this year, he'd strike a pretty big pay day from somebody stupid.
- Tomahawk

Haven't looked who is a free agent; guess that would play a part.

I dont see him getting a raise. We shall see. Though cant argue the some GM is stupid part at all.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Niskanen was his best move, but even that didn't work out in the end.
- Tomahawk


Agreed. Fletcher had a decade in Minnesota and did a poop job. It was a bad hire from go.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Yup, Hamilton is a great defenseman ... SO WHAT! What does that have to do with the Flyers?? Hamilton signed with whatever team was willing to pay him effectively a max contract for a defenseman. At the end of the day, we'll see what NJ wins with all the money they spent on him.
- jd250


They won last night
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Most likely. Fletcher has screwed this team.
- MJL

With all of our Depth?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 8:38 AM ET
5m AAV would be my guess... I wouldn't, but CF will. The only way he is not resigned is if CF himself is canned. I dont see that happening this season.
- PT21

What I hope happens is Scot doesn't allow the GM to extend anyone. Captain Comfortable being the exception as obviously a diff case.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:39 AM ET
Your Hextall schtick just makes you look silly. You're the guy who just posted that Ristolainen was headed towards dominance. You saw what a dominant defenseman looks like last night in Hamilton.

- MJL

You post we have "never ending depth" who is a part of that endless depth.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:40 AM ET
Thanks to xfinity, MSG, and the NHL I was unable to watch the game last night.

Before the game I was thinking it was a good opportunity to get the ship righted a bit.

Opportunity squandered.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:41 AM ET
But he's headed towards dominance. You labeled him one of the best defenseman in the NHL.
- MJL


You said we have never endless depth...

Which statement is dumber?
Asking for a friend
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Chris Stewart
Nate Thompson 2x
Martin "I stole a point" Jones
Hired AV

That is all I got

- corduroy
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Cant give the GM flack for Jones. At the time is was a bad move it seemed. He has [played well.

His signings have been below average. His trades overall below average. His drafts too early though they look to be good with some possible fruit to bear.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Yup, Hamilton is a great defenseman ... SO WHAT! What does that have to do with the Flyers?? Hamilton signed with whatever team was willing to pay him effectively a max contract for a defenseman. At the end of the day, we'll see what NJ wins with all the money they spent on him.
- jd250


I'm more concerned with seeing what the Flyers win during my lifetime. I've already seen the Devils win 3 Cups, that is quite enough. The Flyers are basically on the ass end of a 50 year drought, and couldn't be further away from a Cup if they were based on Mars.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Thanks to xfinity, MSG, and the NHL I was unable to watch the game last night.


- Scoob


They took mercy on you and spared you.


hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
All day and no answer to our never endless depth...
Would Hamilton = depth?

- konalover711

cracker barrel or waffle house?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Thanks to xfinity, MSG, and the NHL I was unable to watch the game last night.

Before the game I was thinking it was a good opportunity to get the ship righted a bit.

Opportunity squandered.

- Scoob


Don't worry they will win 8-0 at MSG on Wednesday night.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:43 AM ET
I haven't made a single excuse for Provorov and your hyperbole does you no favors.
- MJL



Is Provy Depth or is he Hyperbole?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:43 AM ET
They took mercy on you and spared you.



- MJL


lol but despite the horrible play I do still love to watch
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 29 @ 8:44 AM ET
Don't worry they will win 8-0 at MSG on Wednesday night.
- PLindbergh31


I hope so but I won't be able to watch that one either.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 29 @ 8:44 AM ET
Is Provy Depth or is he Hyperbole?
- konalover711

my man
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 29 @ 8:45 AM ET
Agreed. Fletcher had a decade in Minnesota and did a poop job. It was a bad hire from go.
- PLindbergh31


He loops in his superiors and makes them feel listened to, tho. So important to building a winning hockey team. And Bob Clarke likes his dad, so yeah... bonus.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:46 AM ET
lol but despite the horrible play I do still love to watch
- Scoob


I thought this team could be a playoff team and would be more entertaining to watch. It looks like I was wrong.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Nov 29 @ 8:47 AM ET
LOL. It is a fact that he is the best defenseman on the team. How in any way is that making an excuse for the player on any specific play?
- MJL


Is he depth?
Where is our depth?
our depth looked good last night.
Frost with some more flashes of greatness with one shot on goal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:48 AM ET
He loops in his superiors and makes them feel listened to, tho. So important to building a winning hockey team. And Bob Clarke likes his dad, so yeah... bonus.


- Tomahawk


Doesn't inject himself and try to control every aspect of hockey operations even when it needs a complete overhaul. Gives the alumni carte blanche. Lets the players eat whatever they want.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 29 @ 8:48 AM ET
What I hope happens is Scot doesn't allow the GM to extend anyone. Captain Comfortable being the exception as obviously a diff case.
- hello it's me 2050


There have been enough injuries this year to have an inbuilt mgmt excuse, given the way sports businesses work. Indeed, even if fans stay away, the covid excuse is there.

However, likely scapegoats are AV and gang if they cannot right the ship. Risto stays. Roo stays. CF stays.
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