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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
I hear what you're saying LA. But, if not being good enough was the main criteria, why was Nylander ever allowed to dress in the Indian head? (Prior to Rockford). Had no business, NONE, of playing with the parent club. A lot of decisions seem based on pure subjectivity in the moment. And, like you, I'm certain there were valid reasons why Gaudette didn't play. But being less talented than some of the slugs we trot out there nightly? Can't buy it. More to this story than meets the eye. IMO.
- gabriel


Sorry, Nylander’s talent is head and shoulders above Gaudette. The criticism on Nylander has been effort. Talent wise, he would definitely be playing top 6 for the Hawks.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Nov 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Something not right regarding Gaudette. We never got the full story. Perhaps it was supposed to be that way? They give other studs like Strome a look-see three times over, and come to the same exact conclusions. Why not give Gaudette a decent shot? Don't understand.
- gabriel

Well he can't skate so there is that. Apparently he's more into live streaming himself playing video games than he is into hockey
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sorry, Nylander’s talent is head and shoulders above Gaudette. The criticism on Nylander has been effort. Talent wise, he would definitely be playing top 6 for the Hawks.
- LAHawk


LA, not comparing talent levels at all. Some guys warrant a longer look, some do not. Heck, we even start guys that don't seem interested in playing hockey, at all. It's a merciless business. Even the experts don't get it right. All I was saying, is that it can be a crapshoot. As to this day, I have not witnessed any ray of sunlight emanating from Strome or Nylander. Hope I am wrong about Nylander. Sure could use a guy of his potential talent.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 28 @ 3:26 PM ET
LA, not comparing talent levels at all. Some guys warrant a longer look, some do not. Heck, we even start guys that don't seem interested in playing hockey, at all. It's a merciless business. Even the experts don't get it right. All I was saying, is that it can be a crapshoot. As to this day, I have not witnessed any ray of sunlight emanating from Strome or Nylander. Hope I am wrong about Nylander. Sure could use a guy of his potential talent.
- gabriel
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Gaudette is not just Competing against Strome, and Nylander, he is also competing ( next year against Reichel, Barratt, (and Connolly) for next years top 9. We have plenty of Gaudette’s (and those playing like Gaudette like Kubalik). Fact of the matter, he is redundant at best, and blocking others with more upside at worst.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 28 @ 3:48 PM ET
Big house cleaning in Montreal. Bergevin out along with another asst GM and the VP of Public Affairs.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 28 @ 3:49 PM ET
Something not right regarding Gaudette. We never got the full story. Perhaps it was supposed to be that way? They give other studs like Strome a look-see three times over, and come to the same exact conclusions. Why not give Gaudette a decent shot? Don't understand.
- gabriel

Don't you think JC or King would have given Gaudette a reasonable shot to crack the lineup if they thought he could contribute something? After all, they have pretty much made it obvious that they aren't exactly enamored with Strome. (They should have waived both of them IMO).

And Gaudette has skating and inability to play at NHL pace issues.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 28 @ 3:52 PM ET
Big house cleaning in Montreal. Bergevin out along with another asst GM and the VP of Public Affairs.
- boilermaker100


That paves the way for the Hawks to hire Bergevin.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 28 @ 3:53 PM ET
That paves the way for the Hawks to hire Bergevin.
- DarthKane

And the Habs to hire Stanbo.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 28 @ 3:54 PM ET
Don't you think JC or King would have given Gaudette a reasonable shot to crack the lineup if they thought he could contribute something? After all, they have pretty much made it obvious that they aren't exactly enamored with Strome. (They should have waived both of them IMO).

And Gaudette has skating and inability to play at NHL pace issues.

- RickJ


I was excited to see Gaudette to get a chance and I think he can do more than he did with the Hawks. However, he won’t be a big loss. There are a handful of guys who can step up and perform the same or better on the team or in Rockford.

I wish him success in Ottawa and I hope Gaudette gets a fair chance to play.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Nov 28 @ 4:01 PM ET
It looks like the Hawks passed on Murray. It makes sense, with E Kane on waivers they’re going for him instead.
- DarthKane

Hawks will let E. Kane pass thru along with every other team. Then the Hawks work out a trade with SJ so they end up retaining 50% of E. Kane's salary. Strome heads out west.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:04 PM ET
Big house cleaning in Montreal. Bergevin out along with another asst GM and the VP of Public Affairs.
- boilermaker100


Beaudin for Caufield!
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:05 PM ET
That paves the way for the Hawks to hire Bergevin.
- DarthKane


Before we laugh, one must recall he's an old Blackhawk. Already has an inside foot in the door. We love our ex-homies.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
LA, not comparing talent levels at all. Some guys warrant a longer look, some do not. Heck, we even start guys that don't seem interested in playing hockey, at all. It's a merciless business. Even the experts don't get it right. All I was saying, is that it can be a crapshoot. As to this day, I have not witnessed any ray of sunlight emanating from Strome or Nylander. Hope I am wrong about Nylander. Sure could use a guy of his potential talent.
- gabriel

Who might those players be? Other than Strome who may fit that description
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Like I mentioned at the time, there was a reason Gaudette was traded for Matthew (frank)ing Highmore.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
I was excited to see Gaudette to get a chance and I think he can do more than he did with the Hawks. However, he won’t be a big loss. There are a handful of guys who can step up and perform the same or better on the team or in Rockford.

I wish him success in Ottawa and I hope Gaudette gets a fair chance to play.

- DarthKane


Nice summary, Darth. I wish him well.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
Who might those players be? Other than Strome who may fit that description
- Elbows15


Toews?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
I was excited to see Gaudette to get a chance and I think he can do more than he did with the Hawks. However, he won’t be a big loss. There are a handful of guys who can step up and perform the same or better on the team or in Rockford.

I wish him success in Ottawa and I hope Gaudette gets a fair chance to play.

- DarthKane

Fair chances to play don't get handed out by NHL teams, its earn it or try elsewhere. Clearly the Hawks felt Gaudette couldn't help them - even with Johnson and Entwistle out injured and Strome doing next to nothing. Ottawa picked him up mainly because of their injury and Covid problems.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
Beaudin for Caufield!
- powerenforcer


DO IT!!!!!
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:18 PM ET
Who might those players be? Other than Strome who may fit that description
- Elbows15[/quote

Nylander, specifically. Kid was so out of his element, he was painful to watch. Yet, Stanbo was insistent he get a full opportunity, come hell or high water. The poor kid was a periphery player who pretty much avoided contact. We learn now, that he needed time at Rockford. Really??? Who da thunk?
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
Fair chances to play don't get handed out by NHL teams, its earn it or try elsewhere. Clearly the Hawks felt Gaudette couldn't help them - even with Johnson and Entwistle out injured and Strome doing next to nothing. Ottawa picked him up mainly because of their injury and Covid problems.
- RickJ


Fair chances have been handed out to Strome on numerous occasions. I guess his upside is through the roof, and I'm missing something. I have no problems at all with Gaudette being moved. But, since arriving to the Hawks, there hasn't been a peep said about him. Must have been highly inefficient. If so, fair enough.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
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Gaudette is not just Competing against Strome, and Nylander, he is also competing ( next year against Reichel, Barratt, (and Connolly) for next years top 9. We have plenty of Gaudette’s (and those playing like Gaudette like Kubalik). Fact of the matter, he is redundant at best, and blocking others with more upside at worst.

- LAHawk


Interesting that you bring up Kubalik. WTH is going on here, with him? Let's hope that ragging him a little, produces a hat trick tonite versus SJ. Prior to this season, I didn't notice how predictable he was/is? Back to the drawing board in pursuit of my fading brain.......
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Toews?
- mohel


Ouch! Ask a simple question, and Brownie kills it. Never saw it coming.
gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Nov 28 @ 5:08 PM ET
Adam Boquist with 4 goals matches the total of all Hawk Dmen combined, had he stayed with the Hawks we couldn't afford him, so I guess it was smart moving him when he this young












Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 28 @ 5:10 PM ET
Anyone know if Scott Mellanby the former asst GM in Montreal would make a decent GM here? Looks like Bergevin on thin ice there too after the hiring of Jeff Gorton as head of Hockey Ops. Can't see Marc coming here though because I don't think Danny wants any ties to anyone who was around in 2010.
- boilermaker100


If you wanna do this thing properly, and the Hawks ain't saddled with having to move a GM and Prez out, the way to build the hockey side of the organIzation is to hire the tip of the pyramid first.... The following from the Athletic makes no sense to Rocky or his boy. Gorton couldn't build the thing, make hockey hires as well as Rocky's boy.

"As Rangers GM he led a quick rebuild which has not necessarily borne fruit as of yet, but it at least prevented the team from spending too much time in the basement before becoming competitive. In six seasons under his leadership, the Rangers acquired Adam Fox and signed Artemi Panarin while drafting Kaapo Kakko and Alexis Lafrenière.

Earlier in his career, Gorton was Boston Bruins assistant general manager for eight seasons. But it was over a 113-day period in the summer of 2006, while he briefly served as interim general manager, that Gorton contributed significantly to the Bruins’ resurgence by trading Andrew Raycroft for Tuukka Rask and running the draft that led to the additions of Phil Kessel, Milan Lucic and Brad Marchand in a span of 24 hours.

Not bad for an interim GM.

So bringing in Gorton would not simply be grabbing someone off the street. If making a clean break from the current management team was considered a necessity, Gorton would encompass both the experience and the renewal this position would require.

For the Canadiens, adding a president of hockey operations immediately would resolve the current impasse in the front office. A new leader, assured of being here next season, could manage the necessary transactions for the rest of the season while taking the time necessary, alongside Molson, to choose the right person to be the next general manager."
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Nov 28 @ 5:11 PM ET
Don't you think JC or King would have given Gaudette a reasonable shot to crack the lineup if they thought he could contribute something? After all, they have pretty much made it obvious that they aren't exactly enamored with Strome. (They should have waived both of them IMO).

And Gaudette has skating and inability to play at NHL pace issues.

- RickJ


Yes, in answer to your question. They would have given him a reasonable shot.
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