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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
[quote=Mashadar]
So like I said. Hire a French speaking female as a “press secretary” so to speak. All political leaders have that role on their staff. Why not a NHL team? Would go a long way in showing greater diversity having a smart hockey woman doing the speaking on behalf of the team most nights.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
bah, I agree I would remove the language prerequisites, but I've come to terms with it, it's not that big of a deal.
- Pat1993

actually it is, pat. it removes potential candidates from the talent pool.

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
It’s pretty silly to eliminate some candidates just because of a language issue. The players talk to the media more then the gm does and most of them can’t speak French.
- cburgess

Some of them barely speak English either.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
It’s pretty silly to eliminate some candidates just because of a language issue. The players talk to the media more then the gm does and most of them can’t speak French.
- cburgess



they'll be able to hire all the anglophones they want once Réjean Tremblay passes away.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
its stupid and emblematic of an organization stuck in the past.

just hire an interpreter.

- Gramps28



a Cute one, everybody wins
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
actually it is, pat. it removes potential candidates from the talent pool.
- Gramps28


yeah, I've already had that conversation here today lol, I get what you're saying but it isn't like they were missing out on all these incredible candidates that are way better than the francophone ones either...
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
actually it is, pat. it removes potential candidates from the talent pool.
- Gramps28

It is what it is. Not going to change anytime soon.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
a Cute one, everybody wins
- Xizord

true. you can't tell that the fans wouldn't enjoy a team built to be contenders because the GM can't speak french.

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
[quote=TurdFergeson]
I dunno8, I'm not an expert, I just know that it's very important to the city and fans that the GM be french speaking. So a solution could be more team based management rather than one guy who would be picked from a limited pool of candidates. I think it makes sense, I mean it could already be leading that way with Gorton being hired.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
yeah, I've already had that conversation here today lol, I get what you're saying but it isn't like they were missing out on all these incredible candidates that are way better than the francophone ones either...
- Pat1993

glad to see you have your finger on the pulse of all the good candidates for GM.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
It is what it is. Not going to change anytime soon.
- AGalchenyuk27

believe me, i am fine with the habs languishing in mediocrity. its not very inclusive, tho
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Nov 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
its stupid and emblematic of an organization stuck in the past.

just hire an interpreter.

- Gramps28


You comment is also very emblematic of the English Canadians who never understood and accepted Quebec and French speaking as part of Canada…

You are the one stuck on the past…. At the end it is just a question of respect…

Respect demonstrated by Bob Gainey and Larry Robinson….

Honestly, I just don’t understand why the (frank) is it so complicated to understand…


cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Nov 28 @ 4:18 PM ET
true. you can't tell that the fans wouldn't enjoy a team built to be contenders because the GM can't speak french.
- Gramps28

Remember the outrage when randy cunningworth was the head coach? I feel like it would be a big deal unfortunately.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:18 PM ET
[quote=TurdFergeson]

Why just make them a mouthpiece?

If there is some absurd criteria that you need someone that played hockey to be in management, then there is a whole section of untapped potential from the Canadian woman's teams, who I might dare say, could do as well as any former NHL player candidate (especially given they have likely taken less hits to the head).

IDGAF who the GM is, I just want a competent person that can execute on the plan
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
You comment is also very emblematic of the English Canadians who never understood and accepted Quebec and French speaking as part of Canada…

You are the one stuck on the past…. At the end it is just a question of respect…

Respect demonstrated by Bob Gainey and Larry Robinson….

Honestly, I just don’t understand why the (frank) is it so complicated to understand…

- TheInformer697041


Bunch of BS. I’m bilingual. English and Español. But when I’m in Quebec all they see me as is an albertan and show no respect to me either. Why do I need to speak a certain language to show or be respected? How about just treat everyone equally?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
glad to see you have your finger on the pulse of all the good candidates for GM.
- Gramps28




okay, so who is on this list of available anglophone candidates with an interesting curriculum that the habs are foolishly ignoring? entertain me.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
Remember the outrage when randy cunningworth was the head coach? I feel like it would be a big deal unfortunately.
- cburgess

Oh, I know why it would be an outrage. I just am saying its pretty archaic in this day and age.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:22 PM ET
You comment is also very emblematic of the English Canadians who never understood and accepted Quebec and French speaking as part of Canada…

You are the one stuck on the past…. At the end it is just a question of respect…

Respect demonstrated by Bob Gainey and Larry Robinson….

Honestly, I just don’t understand why the (frank) is it so complicated to understand…

- TheInformer697041

One. I am not Canadian.

Two. I think it is more that Quebec has never accepted being part of Canada.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:23 PM ET
You comment is also very emblematic of the English Canadians who never understood and accepted Quebec and French speaking as part of Canada…

You are the one stuck on the past…. At the end it is just a question of respect…

Respect demonstrated by Bob Gainey and Larry Robinson….

Honestly, I just don’t understand why the (frank) is it so complicated to understand…

- TheInformer697041


I find it interesting that this holds true for the Habs, but not the Als or the Impact (or whatever they are called now).

Somehow, everyone manages....
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:23 PM ET
okay, so who is on this list of available anglophone candidates with an interesting curriculum that the habs are foolishly ignoring? entertain me.
- Pat1993


you have missed the point entirely, pat.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:23 PM ET
Remember the outrage when randy cunningworth was the head coach? I feel like it would be a big deal unfortunately.
- cburgess



I think the ones that actually complain about this are part of a loud minority, I'm pretty sure most habs fans just want a winning team.
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
Where's the new blog? Karine at the movies..
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
[quote=Mashadar]
I agree fully. So much of the problems today in hockey management are occurring because it’s just a bunch of former players being trained by the same old school guys. Yet there are many potential candidates that take management courses that could run nhl clubs far far better than the imbeciles we have. But the nhl is still a bunch of old school guys that run the show and if you’re not connected them you have no shot. Teams want different results? Then try a different approach.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
you have missed the point entirely, pat.
- Gramps28


I'm sure it was a super interesting point, too. oh well.
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
I think the ones that actually complain about this are part of a loud minority, I'm pretty sure most habs fans just want a winning team.
- Pat1993

Exactly. It's the Francophone media and the politicians who would be outraged..
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