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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
How are all the normal people doing?!
- Chuckywhip

Good thanks! Always enjoy looking down at the Oilers.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Nov 24 @ 12:33 AM ET
You’re a fcking idiot dude!!! I suggest you hit a hardware store and buy about 10’ of rope, find a tree…

If you need further explanation let me know you fcking donkey

- Chuckywhip



The flames thread has some really special posters…

Makes me kinda miss BigErn. He was a moron but east coast and CGYFlames13 are a different breed altogether.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Nov 24 @ 12:49 AM ET
I'm not interested. Fetal cell ingredient is enough for me to say no. Plus covid passports can potentially be the mark of the devil. We may simply have different long term strategies, no hard feelings. I actually came across a recent video of Iginla talking about how he's Christian, and that he converted away from Islam - big ups to him.. then you know Gaudreau, Monahan, Hamonic are known to be Catholics, it's not a coincidence that they're successful. Even Mangiapane.. "eat bread", they might have been bakers.. but the term to eat bread is repeated over and over in some of the most important Catholic prayers and during mass.

But like I said, we have differing opinions, and I could hardly care less.

- eastcanadAREaholes



Fetal cell ingredients?
there are none... where are you getting this hogwash?
If you're concerned about research done with fetal lines and how they contribute to vaccines then I assume you better be anti vaccine for all vaccines? Use of fetal cell lines were used in the development of many of our common every day drugs including tylenol and advil...you avoid those as well or pick and choose to use as an excuse?


I'm a Christian and a medical doctor. This line of thinking is embarassing and selective not to mention unfactual
Love your neighbour, be willing to sacrifice for the good of others...


Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 24 @ 1:30 AM ET
The same could be said about those who took the vaccine, had heart attacks and died. Both are tremendously sad situations - which is why people should be allowed to make that call for themselves.
In Lucic's case.. going for dinner with Chara who's team was going through covid protocol at the time - THAT was pretty dumb on Lucic's part, especially when we know this isn't a fully tested, conventional vaccine (not to mention pfizer's revelations that it contains fetal cells)

- eastcanadAREaholes


I think your posts are the perfect example of why people shouldn't be allowed to make the call for themselves.

The biggest ammo against the COVID vaccine for nut jobs like you, unfortunately, came long before COVID. Vaccines have never made anyone immune to a disease, and we've never bothered correcting people who believed that they did. A vaccine prepares your body so that if a virus does enter the body, your body is equipped to deal with it. Chara testing positive for COVID doesn't mean the vaccine isn't working or effective. All it means is the tests still work.

You seem like you're probably a gun person. A vaccine is like buying a gun to "protect" your family. It's not going to stop anyone from breaking into your house, but you're ready to shoot whoever shows up unannounced.
Nomad2112
Calgary Flames
Joined: 07.08.2019

Nov 24 @ 2:02 AM ET
Anyone who doesn't question the efficacy of the vax and the injuries caused by it hasn't watch the fda approval meeting for the booster. I did all 8hrs. The data they were reviewing was obviously biased. Only targeting a certain age group and ignoring the 16-35 year old stats. During the open mic period there were more drs against the vax than for it, and those against had power point data to back up claims and those for had nothing but a script roboticly being read. Go ahead it's on you tune look it up and watch the whole thing... one glaring stat is the cdc VAERS site which has vax adverse reactions reported for the last 20years with a sudden spike in 2021, plus why are heart attacks up 25 % around the world with 17 soccer players dead this year. Not coincidence...
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 24 @ 2:29 AM ET
Anyone who doesn't question the efficacy of the vax and the injuries caused by it hasn't watch the fda approval meeting for the booster. I did all 8hrs. The data they were reviewing was obviously biased. Only targeting a certain age group and ignoring the 16-35 year old stats. During the open mic period there were more drs against the vax than for it, and those against had power point data to back up claims and those for had nothing but a script roboticly being read. Go ahead it's on you tune look it up and watch the whole thing... one glaring stat is the cdc VAERS site which has vax adverse reactions reported for the last 20years with a sudden spike in 2021, plus why are heart attacks up 25 % around the world with 17 soccer players dead this year. Not coincidence...
- Nomad2112


Another idiot who half assedly looks at one or two sources and is then a expert. You’re talking about one discussion about the necessity of a booster. Of course there will be dissenting opinions if a booster is necessary. You’re going to ignore the other five or so meetings they’ve had in the past few months?

Do you not have a lick of common sense? Of course there’s a giant spike in adverse vaccine reactions in a year when more people have been vaccinated than ever before. It could be the safest vaccine of in the history of vaccines and there would be a huge spike in adverse reactions.

Not to mention you’re using the VAERS site but completely ignoring the limitations section.

Limitations

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected. Instead someone who had or is aware of an adverse event following vaccination must file a report.
VAERS reports are submitted by anyone and sometimes lack details or contain errors.
VAERS data alone cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event.
This specific limitation has caused confusion about the publicly available data, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. In the past there have been instances where people misinterpreted reports of death following vaccination as death caused by the vaccines; that is a mistake.

VAERS accepts all reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS might represent true vaccine reactions, and others might be coincidental adverse health events not related to vaccination at all.

Generally, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS reports alone.

The number of reports submitted to VAERS may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness.
It is not possible to use VAERS data to calculate how often an adverse event occurs in a population.


Your soccer heart attack stat is also made up nonsense. Heart attacks aren’t up 25% around the world, and there hasn’t been 17 heart attacked related deaths by soccer players this year. There are also always multiple deaths every year in the sporting world from heart attacks since athletes are consistently pushing their hearts to the limit. One of the unfortunate heart attack soccer deaths that actually occurred this year was by a player who was playing in a game to celebrate the death of his brother who was also an athlete who died of a heart attack long before the COVID vaccine was a thing. If anything heart health is down this year since it’s been harder to stay healthy and active during the pandemic.

How many NHL players have died from a heart attack this year?
Hockeyfan4life14
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.23.2019

Nov 24 @ 3:02 AM ET
To you idiots that still think your vaccine only works if I take it I hope your heart explodes cause your a waste of oxygen !!! It’s about choice and if you don’t like mine you can fcuk off !!! Back to hockey talk
Nomad2112
Calgary Flames
Joined: 07.08.2019

Nov 24 @ 3:09 AM ET
Another idiot who half assedly looks at one or two sources and is then a expert. You’re talking about one discussion about the necessity of a booster. Of course there will be dissenting opinions if a booster is necessary. You’re going to ignore the other five or so meetings they’ve had in the past few months?

Do you not have a lick of common sense? Of course there’s a giant spike in adverse vaccine reactions in a year when more people have been vaccinated than ever before. It could be the safest vaccine of in the history of vaccines and there would be a huge spike in adverse reactions.

Not to mention you’re using the VAERS site but completely ignoring the limitations section.

Limitations

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected. Instead someone who had or is aware of an adverse event following vaccination must file a report.
VAERS reports are submitted by anyone and sometimes lack details or contain errors.
VAERS data alone cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event.
This specific limitation has caused confusion about the publicly available data, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. In the past there have been instances where people misinterpreted reports of death following vaccination as death caused by the vaccines; that is a mistake.

VAERS accepts all reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS might represent true vaccine reactions, and others might be coincidental adverse health events not related to vaccination at all.

Generally, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS reports alone.

The number of reports submitted to VAERS may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness.
It is not possible to use VAERS data to calculate how often an adverse event occurs in a population.


Your soccer heart attack stat is also made up nonsense. Heart attacks aren’t up 25% around the world, and there hasn’t been 17 heart attacked related deaths by soccer players this year. There are also always multiple deaths every year in the sporting world from heart attacks since athletes are consistently pushing their hearts to the limit. One of the unfortunate heart attack soccer deaths that actually occurred this year was by a player who was playing in a game to celebrate the death of his brother who was also an athlete who died of a heart attack long before the COVID vaccine was a thing. If anything heart health is down this year since it’s been harder to stay healthy and active during the pandemic.

- Squeaky



Vears is one of many sites, our world data and EU adverse reactions have similar numbers. In fact with our world data you can compare countries, so take high vaxed country vs a low vaxed country and see how the low vaxed countries have less cases per day by a long shot.
Then let's take senate meetings, where they ask the cdc representative why the cdc isn't 100% vaxed and her answer is well we're working on it, the foundation that says it's 100% safe isn't 100% in compliance she wouldn't even give a number, little bit disturbing that employees of a company telling you this is safe doesn't have their staff vaxed, I would think they would be one of the first, you know lead by example. Then there are Senate's meetings with Jim Jordan who actually gives a voice to those injured or had loved ones killed by the jab, hard to find but they exist. Can't fake a senate meeting and if you catch em live they are not censored.
I've done my research I don't let activist news stations tell me what is or isn't, I get it from the source everytime. I have plenty of data screen shots from the 3 letter sites showing the adverse data. The biggest flaw with Vears is that only 1% of adverse reactions are reported.
To your claim that more people are getting vaxxed is not true, every child from the time they are born, are vaxed until at least 12. My kids probably got 70 in that time, 3 yellow cards top to bottom front and back, so no its not more people getting it, same number. Problem is this is not a vax, it's mrna, gene therapy. The freedoms of information act showed they have not isolated a virus.
Google has the soccer death info check it out, the numbers are fairly low until this year. And the heart attack increase article was from a German paper, noting that there has been a significant increase in heart attacks around the world. They didn't accuse the vax, but silly papers about marijuana suddenly causing heart attacks in the young started coming out soon after. Timing is everything. Oh and during the senate meeting with Jim Jordan trial statistics showing the same numbers for the placebo as for the vaxed were shared..

Last I'll say on the matter freedom of medical choice is a God given right, it's your right to do what you do my right to do what I do.. The comment above is right this site needs to stick to Hockey...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 24 @ 3:37 AM ET

Maybe you should change your handle to Father Fondle.
Fuk off with the religious bullish!t
Seriously people you can’t make this sh!t up.

- K-man25


Well said.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 24 @ 4:38 AM ET

To your claim that more people are getting vaxxed is not true, every child from the time they are born, are vaxed until at least 12. My kids probably got 70 in that time, 3 yellow cards top to bottom front and back, so no its not more people getting it, same number.

- Nomad2112


There's stuff unarguably scientifically wrong with pretty much everything you said, but I just had to point out how stupid this is. And you're actually bringing up Jim Jordan? There's not much to say to you if you think he's credible in anything he says.

Here's a question I'd love for you to give me the data on. How many people above the age of 18 got a vaccine between the years of 2000 and 2019? How many people above the age of 18 got a vaccine in 2019 and 2020? They also didn't stop giving kids the usual vaccines. So which number do you think is higher?
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Nov 24 @ 4:40 AM ET
Maybe you should be put in a straight jacket and locked up in a padded cell. This is a hockey site not a venue to discuss you're opinion on religion.
- FlamesFan1230

Oh boy.
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