So Ducharme has no impact when we win but has one when we lose?
- Scabeh

By definition, what you say above, is that DD never has an impact.

And that seems about right.

I do not think he is a particularly good coach. Or a particularly bad one.

He seems to be able to get out of the way when the team is doing well, but does not seem to have solutions when they are struggling.

His overall regular season record as a coach is bad. His playoff record is somewhat better, but as others pointed out, Richardson did as well (and maybe better).

At the end of the day, from the sample size we have seen, he is just not an NHL coach.

By definition, what you say above, is that DD never has an impact.

And that seems about right.

I do not think he is a particularly good coach. Or a particularly bad one.

He seems to be able to get out of the way when the team is doing well, but does not seem to have solutions when they are struggling.

His overall regular season record as a coach is bad. His playoff record is somewhat better, but as others pointed out, Richardson did as well (and maybe better).

At the end of the day, from the sample size we have seen, he is just not an NHL coach.
- Mashadar

That's not what I'm saying at all.

I said it's unfair to say he had no say in what transpired this summer vs blaming him for the team's current situation.

We have no idea if or how much the players respond to him, we have no idea of his overall impact on the players, all we can see is that the team absolutely sucks.

Would a different coach be better? Maybe? Would the same coach with a different team be better? Maybe as well.

By definition, what you say above, is that DD never has an impact.

And that seems about right.

I do not think he is a particularly good coach. Or a particularly bad one.

He seems to be able to get out of the way when the team is doing well, but does not seem to have solutions when they are struggling.

His overall regular season record as a coach is bad. His playoff record is somewhat better, but as others pointed out, Richardson did as well (and maybe better).

At the end of the day, from the sample size we have seen, he is just not an NHL coach.
- Mashadar

but if the players actually don't have an issue with the "system" he's trying to implement, and it's more a matter of having too many veteran guys who are tired/injured/not giving their 100%, then this conclusion is a bit unfair.

I'm not even trying to defend him, and as a matter of fact I don't even care if he does get fired at this point, just that it's a possibility he might not be the real issue here either.

So Ducharme has no impact when we win but has one when we lose?
- Scabeh

I'm just saying that neither wins or losses can be simply put on DD, this team plays well when it wants to

I'm just saying that neither wins or losses can be simply put on DD, this team plays well when it wants to
- braidan

Well that I can agree with.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

I said it's unfair to say he had no say in what transpired this summer vs blaming him for the team's current situation.

We have no idea if or how much the players respond to him, we have no idea of his overall impact on the players, all we can see is that the team absolutely sucks.

Would a different coach be better? Maybe? Would the same coach with a different team be better? Maybe as well.
- Scabeh

When a team comes out flat, disorganized, and with zero effort like that yesterday, and no one is benched or they send out 2 rookies to take the heat from the media, afterwards?

That is just bad coaching.

This team has been disorganized mess from day 1 this year, the signs were clear in pre-season.

Yeah, maybe you are dealt a poopty team, but any decent coach come up with a play that plays to whatever strengths they might have and try to minimize their weeknesses.

But it is the same poop every game.

Yeah, MB gave him a pile of poop. But DD just decided to serve poop sandwiches, rather than use it as fertilizer to grow something resembling an NHL team with actual NHL strategies and impose a work ethic on a (mostly) veteran lineup that should know better.

When a team comes out flat, disorganized, and with zero effort like that yesterday, and no one is benched or they send out 2 rookies to take the heat from the media, afterwards?

That is just bad coaching.

This team has been disorganized mess from day 1 this year, the signs were clear in pre-season.

Yeah, maybe you are dealt a poopty team, but any decent coach come up with a play that plays to whatever strengths they might have and try to minimize their weeknesses.

But it is the same poop every game.

Yeah, MB gave him a pile of poop. But DD just decided to serve poop sandwiches, rather than use it as fertilizer to grow something resembling an NHL team with actual NHL strategies and impose a work ethic on a (mostly) veteran lineup that should know better.
- Mashadar

Well I'm not debating that.

For what it's worth, I don't disagree that Ducharme's results, aside from the cup run, are underwhelming to say the least.

it's very hard to determine who most of the blame should be put on right now, since we don't really have any knowledge of what's going on internally, and god knows with this organization that the truth rarely surfaces by itself.

that being said the contrast between this season and last year's playoffs is pretty intense, and something has to happen at some point, unless MB and Molson are literally going to hide from the fans and media until the season is over lol
- Pat1993

It’s clearly the fault of their crappy fan base…

It’s clearly the fault of their crappy fan base…
- TurdFergeson

yes, without question our bipolarity has seeped into this team's subconscious and therefore directly affected their performance on the ice. shame on us.

yes, without question our bipolarity has seeped into this team's subconscious and therefore directly affected their performance on the ice. shame on us.
- Pat1993

The first step to recovery is admitting fault.

The first step to recovery is admitting fault.
- TurdFergeson

crazy how GREAT i am

afternoon fellow miserable bastards.

crazy how GREAT i am
- mr.peanut

it really is.

afternoon fellow miserable bastards.
- Gramps28

i'm not miserable!

it really is.
- kicksave856

I imagine I was given an appropriate amount or praise in this thread today?

Also, sup?

I imagine I was given an appropriate amount or praise in this thread today?

Also, sup?
- mr.peanut

yes, so many people care, it's insane.

yes, so many people care, it's insane.
- Pat1993

ignorance is not an excuse

I imagine I was given an appropriate amount or praise in this thread today?

Also, sup?
- mr.peanut

i was only reading on and off but i believe they went a day without mentioning you.

baby steps.

i was only reading on and off but i believe they went a day without mentioning you.

baby steps.
- kicksave856

unacceptHABle

unacceptHABle
- mr.peanut

i thought habsolutely and habpologize were good but unaccepthable takes the cake.

Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL

Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin was confirmed positive for COVID-19 this morning.

He is being monitored by the Canadiens medical staff and will follow the protocols set forth by the National Hockey League and the public health authorities.

Excuses.

Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL

Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin was confirmed positive for COVID-19 this morning.

He is being monitored by the Canadiens medical staff and will follow the protocols set forth by the National Hockey League and the public health authorities.

Excuses.
- stinger67

- kicksave856

Pretty much yes

Pretty much yes
- stinger67