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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:31 AM ET
If they continue to play Gallants system they will be in a lot, lot, lot of games. Maybe the goalies save percentage is so good because no one in front of him is cheating, they are playing defense first. Just a theory, like in basketball how do they determine a good defense, shooting percentage. Hockey is save percentage. Of course there are better goalies than others but if he has no help it doesn't matter how good he is.
- BetweenTheDots


What's his personal record for long tenure as a head coach? He'll be available soon enough....
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:31 AM ET
If they continue to play Gallants system they will be in a lot, lot, lot of games. Maybe the goalies save percentage is so good because no one in front of him is cheating, they are playing defense first. Just a theory, like in basketball how do they determine a good defense, shooting percentage. Hockey is save percentage. Of course there are better goalies than others but if he has no help it doesn't matter how good he is.
- BetweenTheDots


"The Blueshirts, according to Natural Stat Trick, allow the most five-on-five scoring chances in the league per 60:00 at 33.99. The first-year Kraken lead the NHL at 22.27. The Rangers rank 27th in high-danger chances against/60 at 11.95."

Very helpful read on NYR this and last yr: https://www.hockeybuzz.co...is-column-today/89/114479

But yea, zero doubt defense is a 5 man exercise. Hate to say this on a Hawk's blog but systems have a lot to say on how that 5 man defense is played.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
So, Dots wants to emulate the team giving up even more scoring chances than the Hawks.

That's absolute genius!
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:40 AM ET
That's a good post. I have been thinking the same thing but couldn't it succinctly into words. What is the current organizational path? Rebuild, retool, or ice a competitive enough team to make the playoffs and put fannies in the seats? Bowman was all over the map the past few years, and I really don't know what Davidson's thoughts are, or even if he has to authority to make wholesale changes at this time.

If Davidson is the GM of the future why was he given just an interim title? I hope the long range plan is to bring in a new President of Hockey Operations to develop a long term plan and put a GM and coach in place to implement it. Let's just pick a lane and stay there.

- boilermaker100


Me too. It's probably stupid to say I don't even care if it's the wrong plan as long as it's made by adults and given time to succeed or fail. If such a plan is made by competent hockey people much better chance to succeed than fail though. ....... A very exciting time for Hawk fans. The slate is clean with a resourced original 6 franchise to lay the foundation for a 20 yr run of competence and success.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
"The Blueshirts, according to Natural Stat Trick, allow the most five-on-five scoring chances in the league per 60:00 at 33.99. The first-year Kraken lead the NHL at 22.27. The Rangers rank 27th in high-danger chances against/60 at 11.95."

Very helpful read on NYR this and last yr: https://www.hockeybuzz.co...is-column-today/89/114479

But yea, zero doubt defense is a 5 man exercise. Hate to say this on a Hawk's blog but systems have a lot to say on how that 5 man defense is played.

- Mr Ricochet


That took a lot of courage right there, hahaha

That's not good about the high danger chances for sure. But is it with no one around them, like the Hawks were letting up or is it with a defender there who doesn't allow someone much space and time, stick follow through. All those little details matter. I know the Hawks got outshot in the 3rd period the other day but some shots were just thrown on hoping for a rebound, others were contested, others were with little little time to me all these things really matter.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
Me too. It's probably stupid to say I don't even care if it's the wrong plan as long as it's made by adults and given time to succeed or fail. If such a plan is made by competent hockey people much better chance to succeed than fail though. ....... A very exciting time for Hawk fans. The slate is clean with a resourced original 6 franchise to lay the foundation for a 20 yr run of competence and success.
- Mr Ricochet


I agree with you guys, it's nice that we can start with a clean slate.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
Or someone like him....... This is why I do not want the Hawks to do anything major, like trading Kane or Toews, until they have that hockey mind hired to bring this once proud original six franchise out of this dark time. Trading Kane and or Toews is not just something you do cuz the deal looks good. It's, or isn't, done in the context of carrying out an agreed upon long term organIzational plan made by the best hockey minds money can buy.

NYR banked on Goodrow and Reaves to make em tough and Laffy, Kakko, Chytil would take a step forward making signing Buch long term at 6 mil per prohibitive. ........ NYR had never bought into Buch going by deployment but Armstrong sees a fit with his Blues. Blues are a deep and tough out. Really good to see Tank playing like he was 5 yrs ago.

- Mr Ricochet

The problem the Rangers will always have is meddlesome, unpredictable owner James Dolan.

At least the Hawks have an owner that stays somewhat removed.
OGSixFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 10.31.2021

Nov 11 @ 12:15 PM ET
I would trade kb no matter what imo based on his previous seasons more than likely be asking around the 6 million mark especially if he puts up another 25 plus goals. As for Kane and Toews they dictate what happens. Personally Kane stays signs an 3 to 4 year extension around 8 million per year towes on the other hand signs in Winnipeg for 1 or 2 years or just retires don't see him coming back. One last thing would it be better served to play dach on wing than center because he cannot win face-off worth a lack. And yes I know it's early in career but I see him better suited as a winger.
- Scott1977

This hawks organizational changes should serve notice to every player, to showcase their talents in the time left before TDL. Playoff teams in need will determine value of hawks assets, while there isn't anyone I would consider off limits, there are some players that will have value to a playoff bound team and others that will not. Kubalik is one of our few goal scorers, but would he get top 6 minutes on a playoff team, and his value would be determined by the role he would be filling for the acquiring team? IMHO the hawks are actually in a better position than they have been in. no sense of desperation on our part, we can be patient sellers, I don't think anyone in upper mgmt. expects miracle turnarounds. so no need to give anything away in a desperation. Not to speak ill of the recently departed, but I would bet there were more than a few GM's that were sad to see Stan leave, they will all have to work harder to look good to their bosses
Hawk4life
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 05.19.2014

Nov 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
As I said previously., neither are going anywhere and as someone else on here said unless they both decide they want to leave. The posts about the hawks parting with Kane or Toews is a bunch of BS and made up fodder. First of all, the hawks are one of the quietest teams in the NHL on any comings and goings so for these rumors to be popping up makes zero sense. No one knew about MAF until the last minute, so again put these rumors to rest and come up with something real to discuss. It's always Eklund making up a bunch of BS to bring traffic and clickbait to his site. It is way too early in the season for any big trades minus the one for Eichel, but that very rarely happens this early in a season. Plus the hawks are evaluating everyone and everything with the new coach and seeing how all the new acquisitions gel and mold. Doesn't make any sense to start unloading people this early in the season. Especially your two best guys. Such a stupid idea and a dumb post yet again focusing on guys that are not going anywhere.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Nov 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
As I said previously., neither are going anywhere and as someone else on here said unless they both decide they want to leave. The posts about the hawks parting with Kane or Toews is a bunch of BS and made up fodder. First of all, the hawks are one of the quietest teams in the NHL on any comings and goings so for these rumors to be popping up makes zero sense. No one knew about MAF until the last minute, so again put these rumors to rest and come up with something real to discuss. It's always Eklund making up a bunch of BS to bring traffic and clickbait to his site. It is way too early in the season for any big trades minus the one for Eichel, but that very rarely happens this early in a season. Plus the hawks are evaluating everyone and everything with the new coach and seeing how all the new acquisitions gel and mold. Doesn't make any sense to start unloading people this early in the season. Especially your two best guys. Such a stupid idea and a dumb post yet again focusing on guys that are not going anywhere.
- Hawk4life


It's not just Ek though, Spector, Brooks and few others had articles. ek went further with the Calgary stuff.
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Nov 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
As I said previously., neither are going anywhere and as someone else on here said unless they both decide they want to leave. The posts about the hawks parting with Kane or Toews is a bunch of BS and made up fodder. First of all, the hawks are one of the quietest teams in the NHL on any comings and goings so for these rumors to be popping up makes zero sense. No one knew about MAF until the last minute, so again put these rumors to rest and come up with something real to discuss. It's always Eklund making up a bunch of BS to bring traffic and clickbait to his site. It is way too early in the season for any big trades minus the one for Eichel, but that very rarely happens this early in a season. Plus the hawks are evaluating everyone and everything with the new coach and seeing how all the new acquisitions gel and mold. Doesn't make any sense to start unloading people this early in the season. Especially your two best guys. Such a stupid idea and a dumb post yet again focusing on guys that are not going anywhere.
- Hawk4life


Ok say they aren't asked to be traded. How pleased will they be when players around them start getting dealt and it clearly becomes a rebuilding year.

I know its tough but look at the facts. Coach / GM both out, team worst streak to start season and not expected to go anywhere. Central and West are going to be a log jam all year.

No one is giving you assets for Toews, you are likely giving them. Best hope is he goes back on LTIR or retires. Use the Cap space to go after Tkachuk or other assets in offseason.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Nov 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
Ok say they aren't asked to be traded. How pleased will they be when players around them start getting dealt and it clearly becomes a rebuilding year.

I know its tough but look at the facts. Coach / GM both out, team worst streak to start season and not expected to go anywhere. Central and West are going to be a log jam all year.

No one is giving you assets for Toews, you are likely giving them. Best hope is he goes back on LTIR or retires. Use the Cap space to go after Tkachuk or other assets in offseason.

- Gerk


We would love Tkachuk. We hadn't had a player like that since Secord.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
https://twitter.com/CRoum...3uq275FJ5xavCRT2sQdw&s=01

There you go Ogi, actually i prefer this as well.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
BTW Bob Murray "resigned" yesterday as Anaheim GM. Bergevin probably out at Montreal sooner or later. That's 2 other clubs looking for a GM.
Hawk4life
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 05.19.2014

Nov 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
Ok say they aren't asked to be traded. How pleased will they be when players around them start getting dealt and it clearly becomes a rebuilding year.

I know its tough but look at the facts. Coach / GM both out, team worst streak to start season and not expected to go anywhere. Central and West are going to be a log jam all year.

No one is giving you assets for Toews, you are likely giving them. Best hope is he goes back on LTIR or retires. Use the Cap space to go after Tkachuk or other assets in offseason.

- Gerk


If that were the case they would have asked to be traded several years ago when we were retooling. We have been retooling for several years now. So why all of a sudden they want out as of today. I just dont see it. I think it's too early and the team will turn the corner and these conversations will go to the way side in april. It just all of a sudden takes toews and kane 4 or 5 years to decide they want out because the hawks are struggling. The hawks struggled the first year or two kane and toews entered the league, so makes no sense. Things are going to turn around. Its early.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
DACH: Needs to spend time at the AHL level - too much loafing and plays pretty much die on his stick, as teams just let him skate into the zone to the boards, then just take the puck away from him. he obviously has no confidence right now - anyone seeing the same? Or is this my COVID evaluation?
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
BTW Bob Murray "resigned" yesterday as Anaheim GM. Bergevin probably out at Montreal sooner or later. That's 2 other clubs looking for a GM.
- boilermaker100


Bob Murray - substance issues
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Nov 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
If that were the case they would have asked to be traded several years ago when we were retooling. We have been retooling for several years now. So why all of a sudden they want out as of today. I just dont see it. I think it's too early and the team will turn the corner and these conversations will go to the way side in april. It just all of a sudden takes toews and kane 4 or 5 years to decide they want out because the hawks are struggling. The hawks struggled the first year or two kane and toews entered the league, so makes no sense. Things are going to turn around. Its early.
- Hawk4life


Its not unrealistic to think new GM may want to move on from them, more specifically their contracts. Can do a lot to revamp franchise with 20+ million to spend. It sucks to move on but its business or should be treated as such. Blues had to walk away from last 2 captains due to cap issues. That's the NHL now if want to stay competitive.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Nov 11 @ 1:14 PM ET
Ok say they aren't asked to be traded. How pleased will they be when players around them start getting dealt and it clearly becomes a rebuilding year.

I know its tough but look at the facts. Coach / GM both out, team worst streak to start season and not expected to go anywhere. Central and West are going to be a log jam all year.

No one is giving you assets for Toews, you are likely giving them. Best hope is he goes back on LTIR or retires. Use the Cap space to go after Tkachuk or other assets in offseason.

- Gerk

There would be plenty of teams who give something to get him, especially if salary were retained. Might not be a huge get, but other than salary retained, the Hawks wouldn’t need to add assets to move Toews.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Nov 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
Its not unrealistic to think new GM may want to move on from them, more specifically their contracts. Can do a lot to revamp franchise with 20+ million to spend. It sucks to move on but its business or should be treated as such. Blues had to walk away from last 2 captains due to cap issues. That's the NHL now if want to stay competitive.
- Gerk

Losing Backes was the best thing the Blues ever did. They don’t win the cup with him on the team. Perpetual Loser.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 11 @ 1:23 PM ET
And I'm sure you know who ripped off the Rangers to get Buchnevich and gave them back Sammy Blais and one of those oh so valuable 2nd round picks - Doug Armstrong. Same guy that ripped off the Sabres for Ryan O'Reilly. One of the best GM's in the game and GM of Team Canada. Hawks wouldn't go wrong stealing him away from the Blues.
- RickJ

Also signed Saad to $4.5M AAV, that’s a good cap hit for Saad, he was really good for the Avs in last year’s playoffs. Hawks need to use that comparison for Kubalik’s next contract.
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Nov 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
Also signed Saad to $4.5M AAV, that’s a good cap hit for Saad, he was really good for the Avs in last year’s playoffs. Hawks need to use that comparison for Kubalik’s next contract.
- Angotti


Bozak and Neal deals are saving us thus far this year. With as so many guys going through covid protocol.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
Also signed Saad to $4.5M AAV, that’s a good cap hit for Saad, he was really good for the Avs in last year’s playoffs. Hawks need to use that comparison for Kubalik’s next contract.
- Angotti


$4 - $4.5 million for 3-4 years would be fair, but I bet Kubalik wants more (which is his right).
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
If they could somehow swindle Sakic into ditching Girard 1 for 1 I would do it. But I don’t think Sakic has lost many trades recently. The Avs are looking for wings after losing Saad and Donskoi.

That said, I like Kubalik’s game a lot. 26 is not old, and he’s still only going to be a RFA. The team isn’t strong at any one position, and losing Kubalik would take them from around average at wing with Kane, Debrincat, Kubalik, Hagel to weak. I see Kubalik as an aldi Sharp, and the idea of keeping him for $4-5M is perfect. His underlying numbers are also outstanding, especially considering the team he’s played on the last two years. When he plays, picks go flying at the other team’s net, good things happen. I have little interest in losing one of the few guys who plays ‘the right way’ if you will.

- ObeseOprah



On these boards 26 is ancient, I thought you would have picked that up by now. After 21 it’s all downhill.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 11 @ 1:44 PM ET
On these boards 26 is ancient, I thought you would have picked that up by now. After 21 it’s all downhill.
- DarthKane

Shoot, we have 20 year old busts.
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