Every time he's on the ice, they gotta fight tooth and nail to get the puck out of their zone.

It's clear as day that Holl is done. I just hope to (frank) the Leafs as a team finally acknowledge it.
- GreatGigInTheSky

At least here he is.

He might come back as a decent bottom pairing guy playing for a team that is a little more low key.

But yeah, I don’t think he’ll be able to overcome his slump here due to the high level of attention he gets in Toronto

sportsnet just flashed the Leafs with a goal


do they something we don't

Chuck Fletcher: "We just can't keep bringing back the same players year after year and expect different results"

Hmm.

At least here he is.

He might come back as a decent bottom pairing guy playing for a team that is a little more low key.

But yeah, I don’t think he’ll be able to overcome his slump here due to the high level of attention he gets in Toronto
- Dozzer

I hope to (frank) the team sees this.

Grioux interferes and Spezza gets the penalty. Nice.

EDIT: Now a dive by Grioux. Amazing.

Man, this site is ass lately, eh? Half the time it doesn't even work.

Yawn

Man, this site is ass lately, eh? Half the time it doesn't even work.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.

Chuck Fletcher: "We just can't keep bringing back the same players year after year and expect different results"

Hmm.
- fifty__missions

Yup and the flyers won the cup in 75’, that 8 year difference to the leafs is obviously the definition of perfect hockey team management

I hope to (frank) the team sees this.
- GreatGigInTheSky

The team wouldn’t care what I have to say.

You guys don’t even care

I’m not sure that I care either

Lol

Seriously tho, I admit I was wrong about how it would look and I now say trade Holl for a minimum salary 7th d man. Play the guys they have been before tonight, and that way they have the cap space for when Mikheyev is back without having to move anyone else.

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
- Aerial Screw

- GreatGigInTheSky

The team wouldn’t care what I have to say.

You guys don’t even care

I’m not sure that I care either

Lol

Seriously tho, I admit I was wrong about how it would look and I now say trade Holl for a minimum salary 7th d man. Play the guys they have been before tonight, and that way they have the cap space for when Mikheyev is back without having to move anyone else.
- Dozzer

I mean, your line of thought was backed up by history, so it made sense. But Holl just happens to be All World useless and Liljegren has stepped up to NHL play very well.

I honestly don't care what we get in a Holl trade because him being gone is the best thing for the Leafs. But if some of the reporter guys are right and other teams actually want Holl (I'll believe it when I see it), then it could even turn into a win/win. Trade him and also get something for him.

The team wouldn’t care what I have to say.

You guys don’t even care

I’m not sure that I care either

Lol

Seriously tho, I admit I was wrong about how it would look and I now say trade Holl for a minimum salary 7th d man. Play the guys they have been before tonight, and that way they have the cap space for when Mikheyev is back without having to move anyone else.
- Dozzer

Trade for a pick. It’s the $

- Aerial Screw

(frank), man. The beginning got me excited that the lost video had been found.

I mean, your line of thought was backed up by history, so it made sense. But Holl just happens to be All World useless and Liljegren has stepped up to NHL play very well.

I honestly don't care what we get in a Holl trade because him being gone is the best thing for the Leafs. But if some of the reporter guys are right and other teams actually want Holl (I'll believe it when I see it), then it could even turn into a win/win. Trade him and also get something for him.
- GreatGigInTheSky

The one I’m hearing is a better 3rd string goalie would come back if Holl was moved to the penguins.

I suppose the leafs could always do that and use someone like Rubins to be the 7th

The one I’m hearing is a better 3rd string goalie would come back if Holl was moved to the penguins.

I suppose the leafs could always do that and use someone like Rubins to be the 7th
- Dozzer

A 6th round pick could be squeezed out

Trade for a pick. It’s the $
- Canada Cup

I’d be amazed if anyone was willing to take on 2 million for two years in under a cap that’s not moving upwards anytime soon for a pick.

Move Holl, have a 7th making league minimum, and that’s enough to have the cap space needed once Mikheyev and Mrazek are healthy (which is looking to be about the same time)

A 6th round pick could be squeezed out
- dmnted

Would you if you were the other GM? Lol

I wouldn’t.

Me as a GM: sure I’ll take on Holl but all I’ll give back is one of my depth guys, deal?

Oh My KAMPF!!!!!!

How did Kampf not place that shot perfectly?! HOW?!

The one I’m hearing is a better 3rd string goalie would come back if Holl was moved to the penguins.

I suppose the leafs could always do that and use someone like Rubins to be the 7th
- Dozzer

I'd be cool with that. Hutch is the next most useless guy after Holl.

How did Kampf not place that shot perfectly?! HOW?!
- Dozzer

Trade him..we need a matthews on 3rd line making 2rd line dollars.

I'd be cool with that. Hutch is the next most useless guy after Holl.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Obsession for men

Ritchie gets elbowed and retaliates and gets the only penalty.