Small sample of stats says Kampf is much better when he’s with the 🦒

Moving on as everyone has the right to their own opinion. 👍
- annoyed

mhm.

Then watches Engvall kill plays in the O zone because he has zero hockey IQ.

Put any NHL player with an ounce of hockey IQ in his spot and they get better results.

Yeah Engvall is annoying, he clearly has speed and skill but zero hockey IQ. I get he is just a placeholder and Mikheyev will likely take his spot...or a dark horse in Ho-Sang but its getting frustrating.

Kampf is not the most offensive guy but at least he can make smart passes and plays that Kase can play off of.
- Santo_44

Ho-Sang does not have an NHL contract

And why would you break up the defensive line when they’re doing their primary job perfectly? They haven’t been scored on once in the last 6 wins. And that comes first.

Why the hell would you change a line that didn’t allow a goal during the last 6 wins?

Easy answer

You don’t.

As long as that line keeps doing things defensive effectively they won’t be changed.

Also get over your Engvall hatred. That guy only gets bumped up in the roster from the third line nowadays. He’s not going anywhere or getting dropped in the lineup.
- Dozzer

Oh yeah? Just like you said there was zero chance that the Leafs would put two rookie d men in the lineup?

Kampf is key to that line
- Canada Cup

Kampf shot attempts with 🦒55%
Without 45

Shots with 55% without 43

Expected goals 51% without 45

Scoring chances 58% without 41

Maybe we can package Engvall with Holl and get a 5th round pick instead of a 7th

Ho-Sang does not have an NHL contract

And why would you break up the defensive line when they’re doing their primary job perfectly? They haven’t been scored on once in the last 6 wins. And that comes first.
- Dozzer

As long as the leafs have a pen and a piece of paper that can change very easily.

And because Kampf and Kase are the consistent pieces to that line...and with out without Engvall is has worked defensively.

Engvall kills plays. The other two are the driving forces of that line.

mhm.

Then watches Engvall kill plays in the O zone because he has zero hockey IQ.

Put any NHL player with an ounce of hockey IQ in his spot and they get better results.
- Santo_44

Kampf and Kase are no better offensively than Engvall and proved that early in the season before the line changes were made and they were playing with Kerfoot.

That line’s lack of production is not solely on Engvall whatsoever

As long as the leafs have a pen and a piece of paper that can change very easily.

And because Kampf and Kase are the consistent pieces to that line...and with out without Engvall is has worked defensively.

Engvall kills plays. The other two are the driving forces of that line.
- Santo_44

🧐😑

Oh yeah? Just like you said there was zero chance that the Leafs would put two rookie d men in the lineup?
- Santo_44

I admitted being wrong about that but also why.

They are together, and they know each other well and that’s why they’re working. If it was two rookies paired with other guys it would be ugly as hell.

People don’t understand what’s legal anymore and that’s the problem

The puck was moving over via pass and that alone made it legal, for it to be considered a kicked in goal this year the puck has to be still. The ref flat out (frank)ed up calling that a no-goal.
- Dozzer

Agreed. I ran this guy over three times and they still say I murdered him. What the hell?

Kampf and Kase are no better offensively than Engvall and proved that early in the season before the line changes were made and they were playing with Kerfoot.

That line’s lack of production is not solely on Engvall whatsoever
- Dozzer

Kase has been snakebitten and that is obvious.

He is a few steps bette offensively than both those guys. He will finish with 10+ more points than both at least.

Agreed. I ran this guy over three times and they still say I murdered him. What the hell?
- AdamFrench

Jeez. People are too lazy to even manslaughter these days.

As long as the leafs have a pen and a piece of paper that can change very easily.

And because Kampf and Kase are the consistent pieces to that line...and with out without Engvall is has worked defensively.

Engvall kills plays. The other two are the driving forces of that line.
- Santo_44

Sign Ho-Sang and he’d have to clear waivers once the leafs would have to drop him to put Mikheyev back in the lineup.

Good call smartie pants

And no that line did not work offensively before Engvall, they’ve been better tbh. Kampf with 1G and 1A which both occurred while playing with him, and Kase with 2G and 1A and only 1 goal happened without Engvall.

Stop your dreaming please. It’s really annoying how biased you are against Engvall.

I admitted being wrong about that but also why.

They are together, and they know each other well and that’s why they’re working. If it was two rookies paired with other guys it would be ugly as hell.
- Dozzer

I am pointing it out because you have the same mannerisms with this now...very "there is no way you are right about this attitude." Just pointing it out to you, you take that as you please.

And no, they are both playing well. Thats why they are both in the line-up according to Keefe.

Agreed. I ran this guy over three times and they still say I murdered him. What the hell?
- AdamFrench

Your understanding isn’t perfect? What the hell indeed lol

Kase has been snakebitten and that is obvious.

He is a few steps bette offensively than both those guys. He will finish with 10+ more points than both at least.
- Santo_44

Kase crossed 30P once and that was 4 years ago.

It’s not just injury… he’s simply hot a top end forward.

Man oh man, blaming the low amount of offence from a defensive line on one player is nothing more than an obnoxious bias

Your understanding isn’t perfect? What the hell indeed lol
- Dozzer

You think Nylander's goal was a blatant kick?

Watch the replay again:

https://www.nhl.com/gamec...21020192,game_state=final

Muzzin throws it in front and it goes off the skate which does not even extend to meet the puck (1:40 of the video). He lifts his skate well after the puck has deflected off of it. That's incidental.

When you see a skate blade angled to direct the puck to the net, or you see the leg move to meet the puck - those to me are the questionable ones that are no longer ever being questioned. But that was the least questionable "kicking motion" goal I've seen this year.
- Monkeypunk

I'm talking about the goal at the beginning of the season against the Leafs.

Why the hell would you change a line that didn’t allow a goal during the last 6 wins?

Easy answer

You don’t.

As long as that line keeps doing things defensive effectively they won’t be changed.

Also get over your Engvall hatred. That guy only gets bumped up in the roster from the third line nowadays. He’s not going anywhere or getting dropped in the lineup.
- Dozzer

You might want to change things in order to get some scoring from your bottom 6. Remember that 15 straight goals from the core 4 stat? And who got the next one? Kase, when they moved Engvall off the line and replaced him with Kerfoot who made an actual offensive play.

I don’t hate Engvall. I haven’t posted about him that much. I’ve posted more about Ritchie. The Leafs need both the top end guys going along with their secondary scorers. Kase actually has that ability. Kampf isn’t offensive but he’s their top D centre. Build a line around them that can shut others down and score occasionally. I, not sure why that’s so upsetting.

You might want to change things in order to get some scoring from your bottom 6. Remember that 15 straight goals from the core 4 stat? And who got the next one? Kase, when they moved Engvall off the line and replaced him with Kerfoot who made an actual offensive play.

I don’t hate Engvall. I haven’t posted about him that much. I’ve posted more about Ritchie. The Leafs need both the top end guys going along with their secondary scorers. Kase actually has that ability. Kampf isn’t offensive but he’s their top D centre. Build a line around them that can shut others down and score occasionally. I, not sure why that’s so upsetting.
- Canada Cup

Stop expecting the third line to score regularly.

That’s how the coach does it so if you want otherwise you’ll get nothing more than disappointment.

Kase crossed 30P once and that was 4 years ago.

It’s not just injury… he’s simply hot a top end forward.

Man oh man, blaming the low amount of offence from a defensive line on one player is nothing more than an obnoxious bias
- Dozzer

While this is true, I find it hard to believe that he couldn't cross 30 points in seasons where he had 20 points in 30 games and 23 points in 49 games.

While this is true, I find it hard to believe that he couldn't cross 30 points in seasons where he had 20 points in 30 games and 23 points in 49 games.
- AdamFrench

Playing on offensive lines

Here he plays on the defensive one.

Hence stop expecting points from him on a regular basis.

Holy hell it’s the same reason Mikheyev wanted to be traded.

Kase crossed 30P once and that was 4 years ago.

It’s not just injury… he’s simply hot a top end forward.

Man oh man, blaming the low amount of offence from a defensive line on one player is nothing more than an obnoxious bias
- Dozzer

Pretty much. Kampf isn't much more than a defensive specialist (which is good!) and I think Engvall and Kase are pretty equal with their offensive instincts. Both have potential to be better and I could see that line finding a bit more offensive groove than they've shown.
That being said, I do expect Engvall to get the boot when Mikky is healthy. I find Engvall and Mikheyev to be almost the exact same player, but for some reason, management prefers Mik, so I have a feeling they're going to move Engvall for a late pick or something.

Pretty much. Kampf isn't much more than a defensive specialist (which is good!) and I think Engvall and Kase are pretty equal with their offensive instincts. Both have potential to be better and I could see that line finding a bit more offensive groove than they've shown.
That being said, I do expect Engvall to get the boot when Mikky is healthy. I find Engvall and Mikheyev to be almost the exact same player, but for some reason, management prefers Mik, so I have a feeling they're going to move Engvall for a late pick or something.
- UsernameUnknown

When Mikheyev is back he’ll get plunked into an offensive role first. So the question is when he’s back my guess is maybe Bunting gets some time off in order to up Mikheyev’s trade value hoping he’ll produce some offence.

And yes I know how much everyone f’n loves Bunting but he’s only got 3P in the last 10 games (not a single one since Vegas) and is minus 4 playing on the top line. Nowhere near good enough

everyone please stop trying to bench der kampfwagen🤦🏿‍♂️

He has stated publicly that he wants to be a bomber defensive forward👍

deductive reasoning:

defense wins championships👍🏿

der kampfwagen loves playing defense👍

ergo, a guy like der kampfwagen is worth a couple of million in the grand scheme of things👍🏿

i’ll temper my expectations for pointz with younguns like him, giraffe and souperman as long as they prioritize their own zone👍🏿

especially at that price😍

we may need a coaching change as the current coach seems to be using babs system🤦‍♂️

by all reports they’re having more fun in the change room tho😍

I admitted being wrong about that but also why.

They are together, and they know each other well and that’s why they’re working. If it was two rookies paired with other guys it would be ugly as hell.
- Dozzer

they were being groomed to play as a pair when they were with the Marlies.