Holl went from a player that we needed to bend over backwards to protect in the expansion draft to a basic cap dump in less than 10 games.
- Leafs43

Happens when he was overrated a bit to begin with.
Also, when our cap is so bad.

Happens when he was overrated to begin with.
Also, when our cap is so bad.
- Fakepartofme

But when he's playing like he has for the last 2 years, he's probably the best value Dman we have

So it was the secondary scoring keeping the team afloat early in the season, then the big buys took over, and have been absolutely dominating, racking up wins. If the team could ever get both going at the same time, at the right time.... good things would happen.
- prock

I’d like to see Kase play with somebody who wasn’t a black hole offensively.

But when he's playing like he has for the last 2 years, he's probably the best value Dman we have
- prock

When muzzin was propping him up?
Without muzz he’s been bad.

Seems like a nice guy though

But when he's playing like he has for the last 2 years, he's probably the best value Dman we have
- prock

Now you’ve done it.

I was reading some of the replies to the Flyers tweet about the first willy goal..and they are great.

NHL punter William Nylander according to some Flyers fans

I was reading some of the replies to the Flyers tweet about the first willy goal..and they are great.

NHL punter William Nylander according to some Flyers fans
- senstroll

I’m sure if it happened against leafs, people would be on here saying the same thing

I’d like to see Kase play with somebody who wasn’t a black hole offensively.
- Canada Cup

At best, he'll get 5 on 5 time with Spezza, maybe? Kase won't see much time, if any playing with Tavares or Matthews.

I was reading some of the replies to the Flyers tweet about the first willy goal..and they are great.

NHL punter William Nylander according to some Flyers fans
- senstroll

It was an iffy goal IMO, not as iffy as the one given to Danault a game earlier, however, neither really affected the outcome. LA won easily and so did the Leafs.

It was an iffy goal IMO, not as iffy as the one given to Danault a game earlier, however, neither really affected the outcome. LA won easily and so did the Leafs.
- winsix

didnt seem iffy to me, puck just bounced off his skate

didnt seem iffy to me, puck just bounced off his skate
- senstroll

Agree, but it remains a judgement call as to whether it was intentionally directed towards the net or not. He lifted his skate - which appeared to happen after the puck contacted the skate.

At best, he'll get 5 on 5 time with Spezza, maybe? Kase won't see much time, if any playing with Tavares or Matthews.
- PatC80

They could keep him with Kampf but maybe replace Engvall with somebody defensively responsible but with some offensive capability.

I’m sure if it happened against leafs, people would be on here saying the same thin
- Fakepartofme

It did happen but that was a blatant kick.
And no, i'm not talking about the one he other night.

It did happen but that was a blatant kick.
And no, i'm not talking about the one he other night.
- bobbyisno1

And yes, no.

The Score app is awesome.
- fifty__missions

It's what I use more often than anything else - but if I'm in front of a monitor and have a keyboard, I'm more at home than on my phone. Also the font is larger, which just seems to be more and more of a requirement every year!

When muzzin was propping him up?
Without muzz he’s been bad.

Seems like a nice guy though
- Fakepartofme

has a muzzin with anyone else pairing been as effective? I don't think so.

Agree, but it remains a judgement call as to whether it was intentionally directed towards the net or not. He lifted his skate - which appeared to happen after the puck contacted the skate.
- winsix

im pretty sure you can still direct the puck with your skate, even though I dont think he even did that in this case. its the "distinct kicking motion" rule thingy..that I cant see even remotely happening in this case

A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player’s skate who does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal. A puck that is directed into the net by an attacking player’s skate shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct kicking motion is evident.

I’m sure if it happened against leafs, people would be on here saying the same thin
- Fakepartofme

specially when it just happened to the Leafs in their previous game

Recording of the shelling on November 11, 1918 stopping followed by the sounds of birds chirping.

https://mobile.twitter.co.../1326727797239328769?s=12

It did happen but that was a blatant kick.
And no, i'm not talking about the one he other night.
- bobbyisno1

You think Nylander's goal was a blatant kick?

Watch the replay again:

https://www.nhl.com/gamec...21020192,game_state=final

Muzzin throws it in front and it goes off the skate which does not even extend to meet the puck (1:40 of the video). He lifts his skate well after the puck has deflected off of it. That's incidental.

When you see a skate blade angled to direct the puck to the net, or you see the leg move to meet the puck - those to me are the questionable ones that are no longer ever being questioned. But that was the least questionable "kicking motion" goal I've seen this year.

Agree, but it remains a judgement call as to whether it was intentionally directed towards the net or not. He lifted his skate - which appeared to happen after the puck contacted the skate.
- winsix

Well, when a Doctor checks your reflex by tapping your knee to make your your leg kick was to the same response when the puck hit his skate.

that's what I was thinking on the play

It's what I use more often than anything else - but if I'm in front of a monitor and have a keyboard, I'm more at home than on my phone. Also the font is larger, which just seems to be more and more of a requirement every year!
- Monkeypunk

I know

They could keep him with Kampf but maybe replace Engvall with somebody defensively responsible but with some offensive capability.
- Canada Cup

the problem with that is we don't really have any offensively gifted left wingers.

Bunting, maybe?

I’m sure if it happened against leafs, people would be on here saying the same thing
- Fakepartofme

People don’t understand what’s legal anymore and that’s the problem

The puck was moving over via pass and that alone made it legal, for it to be considered a kicked in goal this year the puck has to be still. The ref flat out (frank)ed up calling that a no-goal.

didnt seem iffy to me, puck just bounced off his skate
- senstroll

The only reason he lifted his skate up was a reaction to the deflection.

Once the puck left his skate his whole blade was along the ice.

Pretty simple.