These are all good things.

Tyler Johnson is not only off the COVID list but also healthy injury-wise too, Derek King said. Sounds like he could return to practice tomorrow.

Derek King says the plan for Lukas Reichel is to leave him in the AHL for a while.

"We're gonna let him just keep playing and playing. Let's get another hat trick and let's get another hat trick — then maybe we'll talk about it."

Derek King on how he uses analytics:

"My biggest thing is just the puck management, the risk over reward...Entering the offensive zone and you have nothing, and you turn the puck over there, that’s a minus. If you put it in deep and we have establish a forecheck, that’s a plus."

Says the analytics data available to him with the Blackhawks is "a lot," even compared to Rockford.

He's going to meet with the analytics team after Friday's game and tell them the specific things he's interested in and get explanations about other things.

Adam Gaudette: "I'm still waiting for a bigger role, opportunity. I know I can do it, but it's just a matter of earning the trust with the coaches."

Said he's gotten into carrying crystals and doing saging cleanses to keep his confidence up.

Isaak Phillips sent down to the AHL after practice today.

These are all good things.

Tyler Johnson is not only off the COVID list but also healthy injury-wise too, Derek King said. Sounds like he could return to practice tomorrow.

Derek King says the plan for Lukas Reichel is to leave him in the AHL for a while.

"We're gonna let him just keep playing and playing. Let's get another hat trick and let's get another hat trick — then maybe we'll talk about it."

Derek King on how he uses analytics:

"My biggest thing is just the puck management, the risk over reward...Entering the offensive zone and you have nothing, and you turn the puck over there, that’s a minus. If you put it in deep and we have establish a forecheck, that’s a plus."

Says the analytics data available to him with the Blackhawks is "a lot," even compared to Rockford.

He's going to meet with the analytics team after Friday's game and tell them the specific things he's interested in and get explanations about other things.

Adam Gaudette: "I'm still waiting for a bigger role, opportunity. I know I can do it, but it's just a matter of earning the trust with the coaches."

Said he's gotten into carrying crystals and doing saging cleanses to keep his confidence up.

Isaak Phillips sent down to the AHL after practice today.
- Chunk

I think he is admitting to being a lavender sniffer....disheartening....

To quote others - "the NHL isn't a we try hard league" or "this isn't a development league".

Won't take long for King to figure out who can play at this level and who can't. But he is dealing with a shortage of major league talent right now.
- RickJ

We don't know if King roles 4 lines or if he leans on his top 6 or who is going well. We don't know if he's a matchup coach or just lets em role. We can reasonably assume he doesn't know his roster yet, who fits with who, who he knows what he's gonna get from when he taps them on the shoulder. And remember these two games he's had last change, which was good fortune he started with 2 home games. That's gonna change next game.

But to me he coached these 2 games like playoff games, minutes be damned. Get some success, hopefully wins and give the group some confidence. Mission accomplished. As each game passes, and now they get some practice time, and the newness wears off we'll see how King operates and so will upper management.

Toews has that look coming back where he gets that powerful deep knee bend and plays low. Still a tad light on his skates to my eye though but overall he looks to be on the come... Is there anyone better opening a goalie up to slide the thing 5 hole? Beauty move in the SO.

Not understanding the interest in Toews rumour. We dont need centre depth, got it in spades. To me Treliving & Sutter are going all in this year & next & the guy we need & position is RW & Kane should be the guy the rumour of serious interest is in. Maybe Kane would like to play with some fellow yanks in Gaudreau, Chucky & Hanifin lol.

But I could see us giving up close to what was probably on the table for Eichel if Chicago were to absorb a few million of that contract. Monahan, Valamaki & a 2022 conditional 1st for Kane. The cap would be a wash for this year & next.
FYI, Monahan has been looking better & better. Most games he gets as much if not a bit more 5 v 5 minutes than Lindholm & he gets similar PP minutes as Lindholm. Lindholm does get top PK minutes as well, Monahan doesnt.
Toews rumours I just dont get. JMO
- Kevin R

Nice to see the Flames playing so well. The rivalry with the Oilers is back and meaningful.

I'm a Monahan fan but CAL is gonna have a tough time moving that 6.3 mil per thru next yr. He's regressed the last 3 yrs since his big 35 goal yr. He's gone from 1.05 pts per game to .69 to .56 to .42 this yr skating 4th line vs bottom 6 matchups and that's with 3:05 per on the PP.

So some of that predates his hip injury last yr. ........ I don't usually get into this kinda thing but a multiple cup winning, NCAA winning, Olympic winning Toews as the Flames 3C makes for a helluva top 9 flanked by Mangiapane and Dube.

Not understanding the interest in Toews rumour. We dont need centre depth, got it in spades. To me Treliving & Sutter are going all in this year & next & the guy we need & position is RW & Kane should be the guy the rumour of serious interest is in. Maybe Kane would like to play with some fellow yanks in Gaudreau, Chucky & Hanifin lol.

But I could see us giving up close to what was probably on the table for Eichel if Chicago were to absorb a few million of that contract. Monahan, Valamaki & a 2022 conditional 1st for Kane. The cap would be a wash for this year & next.
FYI, Monahan has been looking better & better. Most games he gets as much if not a bit more 5 v 5 minutes than Lindholm & he gets similar PP minutes as Lindholm. Lindholm does get top PK minutes as well, Monahan doesnt.
Toews rumours I just dont get. JMO
- Kevin R

Monahan is injured it seems each year. Misses lots of games.Not a swift skater and gets injured significant amount of games

Wonder who gets the nod on Friday after both posted goalie wins.

Also, heard Pat talking about the game not being on TV. Looked at the broadcast schedule and saw ESPN+/Hulu. That brings us back to the old days of listening on WBBM if you don't have either.
- Popsghostly

I remember WIND ... but then again ... understand what you mean.

I agree that he is not going to Calgary or any where else for that matter. Hawks can only eat 1/2 the money and that is still an overpay for the player he is today, the leadership and other "soft skills" aren't worth the money. Bottom line we have Toews until his contract expires, and even in the extremely remote case that there was a willing taker of that contract (or portion thereof) it won't yield much in return. I have always liked JT, but he has a lot of miles on him and time takes its toll on everyone at some point, some sooner than others. From pure financial aspect I don't see JT being moved.
- OGSixFan

That huge 10.5 per contract only runs thru next yr so it's not as undoable to move it as say last yr. ....... Hawks have a big decision in two yrs. Do they resign a 35 yr old Toews, with as you mention, a lot of miles on him? If not, or maybe, an offer of say Matt Coronato or Dillon Dube as part of a package from the Flames might raise an eyebrow in the CHI organIzation.

And Coach Sutter would throw his back out doing back flips getting a player like Toews. Bet Toews would waive to go to CAL for a real chance at a cup run with his contract up after next yr. Hawks in a rebuild with who knows who runnin the franchise with the stink of the Aldrich nightmare on the organIzation. I think Johnny would welcome that scenario.

Monahan is injured it seems each year. Misses lots of games.Not a swift skater and gets injured significant amount of games
- jhawk59

Yea, he misses a handful of games at least each yr but that dude plays hard. He is a 27 yrs old with 8 full yrs in the bigs not counting this yr. This dude ain't a floater and has some well earned dings on his body. ...... His minutes are down each of the last 3 yrs and his shots per game have gone from 2.7 to 2.4 to 2.0 to 1.7 this yr.

I don't see the Hawks coveting a guy like him but I'm a fan. Hopefully he gets, or is, healthy and is part of what looks like a fine Flames squad looking to do some damage this yr.

Scott’s post was quadruplicated because the site hangs. I was just giving him the gears for that.

I said after the 2016 season that the core should be moved factoring in no move clauses and stuff. Had the Hawks done it I guarantee the return would have been high. Imagine the prospects and draft picks the hawks would have acquired, the cap space would have gone to zero and I bet today the team wouldn’t be a cellar dweller, in fact I’d bet they be close to, or contending.

If or when the Hawks ever get to the heights of the last decade, they have to seriously be ready to reset before their assets expire and before they find themselves with expired assets and in cap trouble.
- paulr

Agreed and that's why I just think the smoke around Toews isn't valid......I just don't see them getting enough back (in the Hawks eyes) to make it work....not to mention we do have to think about the off ice ramifications....some of us would accept it but how many casual fans would understand it?

Same goes for Kane.....and again, Hawks have ZERO leverage in all of this because both have NMCs so they can dictate terms and shrink that market that the Hawks can deal in.

I agree with your sentiment, just wanted to point out that moves of that size were company wide strategy choices. Pretty sure I would not have done it in 2016 (although hindsight clearly says they should have), but I would have after the beating Nashville gave them in 2017.
- mohel

I would agree and if memory serves correctly.....bowman squarely blamed that series loss on moving out AA, panarin and hammer.....

Not hockey related....Happy Birthday to the Marine Corps. Semper fi.

I know there are some veteran Marines on this board. Thanks for your service.
- powerenforcer

Thank you!!! .....And a Big Thank you for all that have Served / Serving!!
Semper Fi

As satisfying as last night's win was, it's not a sustainable model over a regular season. Just look at the ice times for each player. 6 forwards played less than 12 minutes, and 3 played over 25 minutes.

Seth Jones played 31 minutes, Murphy had 28, and Gus played 8 minutes. And then Fleury had to stop 95% of the 44 shots faced.

And given how few minutes the bottom 6 forwards played, that appears to be where the Penguins capitalized, looking at the plus/minus column.

Getting Kalnyuk back in place of Gus should help the minute imbalance somewhat for the D's. Getting Hagel back will help, also. And Tyler Johnson.

All this talk about 2010, remember that that team rolled four lines.
- 333inthe3rd

Anyone comparing this team to 2010 is living in total denial and believes in unicorns.

We don't know if King roles 4 lines or if he leans on his top 6 or who is going well. We don't know if he's a matchup coach or just lets em role. We can reasonably assume he doesn't know his roster yet, who fits with who, who he knows what he's gonna get from when he taps them on the shoulder. And remember these two games he's had last change, which was good fortune he started with 2 home games. That's gonna change next game.

But to me he coached these 2 games like playoff games, minutes be damned. Get some success, hopefully wins and give the group some confidence. Mission accomplished. As each game passes, and now they get some practice time, and the newness wears off we'll see how King operates and so will upper management.

Toews has that look coming back where he gets that powerful deep knee bend and plays low. Still a tad light on his skates to my eye though but overall he looks to be on the come... Is there anyone better opening a goalie up to slide the thing 5 hole? Beauty move in the SO.
- Mr Ricochet

It'll certainly be interesting going forward, playing 6 forwards and 4 D isn't a long term formula.

That huge 10.5 per contract only runs thru next yr so it's not as undoable to move it as say last yr. ....... Hawks have a big decision in two yrs. Do they resign a 35 yr old Toews, with as you mention, a lot of miles on him? If not, or maybe, an offer of say Matt Coronato or Dillon Dube as part of a package from the Flames might raise an eyebrow in the CHI organIzation.

And Coach Sutter would throw his back out doing back flips getting a player like Toews. Bet Toews would waive to go to CAL for a real chance at a cup run with his contract up after next yr. Hawks in a rebuild with who knows who runnin the franchise with the stink of the Aldrich nightmare on the organIzation. I think Johnny would welcome that scenario.
- Mr Ricochet

So as to the other 10.5 contract, how about the NYR as a trade partner? Would the Rags think they have a Cup team getting Kane by reuniting him with Panarin. They certainly have the assets to send to the Hawks if that's the case.

I agree that Johnny would love another shot and Kane as well. Can KD makes the moves? It's looking as though the interim might not be.

So as to the other 10.5 contract, how about the NYR as a trade partner? Would the Rags think they have a Cup team getting Kane by reuniting him with Panarin. They certainly have the assets to send to the Hawks if that's the case.

I agree that Johnny would love another shot and Kane as well. Can KD makes the moves? It's looking as though the interim might not be.
- gazza53

NYR are an interesting squad in so many ways, #1 being one helluva rebuild done real quickly. And yea man they have a bunch of good young trade chips for sure and that's not counting Kakko and Lafreniere. .... The young Dman Lundkvist looks like he's gonna be a real player.

Edit: And yes I agree, I think it's better than 50/50 Davidson is the next Hawks GM. Little to nothing to base that on other than it seems like a Rocky/Danny thing to do. It's the path of least resistance.

So as to the other 10.5 contract, how about the NYR as a trade partner? Would the Rags think they have a Cup team getting Kane by reuniting him with Panarin. They certainly have the assets to send to the Hawks if that's the case.

I agree that Johnny would love another shot and Kane as well. Can KD makes the moves? It's looking as though the interim might not be.
- gazza53

I would say yes if they didn’t already have so much tied up in Panarin, Trouba, Fox, Zibanejad, Kreider, and Shesterkin. Love what Jeff Gorton did there before the Wilson BS. Would love to see him come work for the Hawks.

I would say yes if they didn’t already have so much tied up in Panarin, Trouba, Fox, Zibanejad, Kreider, and Shesterkin. Love what Jeff Gorton did there before the Wilson BS. Would love to see him come work for the Hawks.
- ObeseOprah

The Hawks could eat half of Kane's contract and they do have plenty of cap space, but maybe they send Kreider back? And Gorton would definitely be a great catch.

So as to the other 10.5 contract, how about the NYR as a trade partner? Would the Rags think they have a Cup team getting Kane by reuniting him with Panarin. They certainly have the assets to send to the Hawks if that's the case.

I agree that Johnny would love another shot and Kane as well. Can KD makes the moves? It's looking as though the interim might not be.
- gazza53

What comes back from the rangers besides a 1st?

What comes back from the rangers besides a 1st?
- Scott1977

Lundkquist the 21 year old D, Kappo Kakko, Kravstov and a 1st.

Maybe we need to take Krieder cuz of the cap, if so they can keep Kakko and give us
a 2nd or 3rd as well.

Just a thought

Lundkquist the 21 year old D, Kappo Kakko, Kravstov and a 1st.

Maybe we need to take Krieder cuz of the cap, if so they can keep Kakko and give us
a 2nd or 3rd as well.

Just a thought
- gazza53

What about towes to Ottawa don't know what return would be but a veteran center on young team with playoff aspirations and are thin down the middle.

Agreed and that's why I just think the smoke around Toews isn't valid......I just don't see them getting enough back (in the Hawks eyes) to make it work....not to mention we do have to think about the off ice ramifications....some of us would accept it but how many casual fans would understand it?

Same goes for Kane.....and again, Hawks have ZERO leverage in all of this because both have NMCs so they can dictate terms and shrink that market that the Hawks can deal in.
- SteveRain

It isn't valid, it is Ek pretending he has sources in Calgary when all he has really done is listen to somebody tell him that the Flames were PO'd losing out on Eichel. So in his feeble hockey brain he concludes the Flames must be chasing another name center - oh, could be/must be Toews.

If I call him tomorrow and tell him the Flames might be interested in Malkin, that will be the rumor du jour within an hour and I will be the Calgary source whispering in his ear.

The Hawks need to proceed with a patient approach to Toews, by the end of November his game, skating stride and confidence may have come around a little further and they may be able to up his ice time by a couple of minutes. He is their leader and a proud competitor in the same mould of a Crosby, Ovi, Messier, Bergeron. You don't dump him for cheap and create another public relations mess; you grant him some more time to recoup his game. And hopefully give him another winger that can help him offensively.

And if they do trade him, it needs to be done while he is playing his best hockey to maximize the return.

It isn't valid, it is Ek pretending he has sources in Calgary when all he has really done is listen to somebody tell him that the Flames were PO'd losing out on Eichel. So in his feeble hockey brain he concludes the Flames must be chasing another name center - oh, could be/must be Toews.

If I call him tomorrow and tell him the Flames might be interested in Malkin, that will be the rumor du jour within an hour and I will be the Calgary source whispering in his ear.

The Hawks need to proceed with a patient approach to Toews, by the end of November his game, skating stride and confidence may have come around a little further and they may be able to up his ice time by a couple of minutes. He is their leader and a proud competitor in the same mould of a Crosby, Ovi, Messier, Bergeron. You don't dump him for cheap and create another public relations mess; you grant him some more time to recoup his game. And hopefully give him another winger that can help him offensively.

And if they do trade him, it needs to be done while he is playing his best hockey to maximize the return.
- RickJ

Yeah it would be nice getting a first rounder this year even if in the late part of the round.

Imagine

Not understanding the interest in Toews rumour. We dont need centre depth, got it in spades. To me Treliving & Sutter are going all in this year & next & the guy we need & position is RW & Kane should be the guy the rumour of serious interest is in. Maybe Kane would like to play with some fellow yanks in Gaudreau, Chucky & Hanifin lol.

But I could see us giving up close to what was probably on the table for Eichel if Chicago were to absorb a few million of that contract. Monahan, Valamaki & a 2022 conditional 1st for Kane. The cap would be a wash for this year & next.
FYI, Monahan has been looking better & better. Most games he gets as much if not a bit more 5 v 5 minutes than Lindholm & he gets similar PP minutes as Lindholm. Lindholm does get top PK minutes as well, Monahan doesnt.
Toews rumours I just dont get. JMO
- Kevin R

Kane's dad hates flying. He drives from Buffalo. If Kane goes anywhere it will be east of Chicago.

Kane's dad hates flying. He drives from Buffalo. If Kane goes anywhere it will be east of Chicago.
- 6628

wussy

It isn't valid, it is Ek pretending he has sources in Calgary when all he has really done is listen to somebody tell him that the Flames were PO'd losing out on Eichel. So in his feeble hockey brain he concludes the Flames must be chasing another name center - oh, could be/must be Toews.

If I call him tomorrow and tell him the Flames might be interested in Malkin, that will be the rumor du jour within an hour and I will be the Calgary source whispering in his ear.

The Hawks need to proceed with a patient approach to Toews, by the end of November his game, skating stride and confidence may have come around a little further and they may be able to up his ice time by a couple of minutes. He is their leader and a proud competitor in the same mould of a Crosby, Ovi, Messier, Bergeron. You don't dump him for cheap and create another public relations mess; you grant him some more time to recoup his game. And hopefully give him another winger that can help him offensively.

And if they do trade him, it needs to be done while he is playing his best hockey to maximize the return.
- RickJ

Can’t imagine anyone doing something like that! 🤭