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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 9 @ 2:59 PM ET
I think you are insignificant and no longer worth my time


- PatShart


Yea, i second this, i guess they come as a set, a set of what not really sure of
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
Dont ask for help next time
- PatShart


I hope all is well with you, Shart.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
I think you are insignificant and no longer worth my time


- PatShart




I feel truly insulted, not only am I not worth your time, you didn’t even tell me how you felt about the word angst.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
Yea, i second this, i guess they come as a set, a set of what not really sure of
- BetweenTheDots


Boyfriends, you said. Remember?
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
It's interesting that Herr Reichel busted out immediately after Derek King got the call up to the bigs.
- Rota's RooterWas King a detriment to is development?

I call it a win if Dach can stay healthy for a season and stay on his skates most of the game.

I don't think he busted out much more than any other game. I would need to see why/how he was able to get two breakaways with goals on each. He is just a smart responsible player able to decipher and figures things out as he goes along. Surely will stand out the same way in NHL. I think we can watch Slavin, too fie the Industrious player he is on Reichel's line
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Nov 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't think he busted out much more than any other game. I would need to see why/how he was able to get two breakaways with goals on each. He is just a smart responsible player able to decipher and figures things out as he goes along. Surely will stand out the same way in NHL. I think we can watch Slavin, too fie the Industrious player he is on Reichel's line
- jhawk59


If Slavin is half the player his brother is, I will take back one of the 1,000 mean things I’ve said about Stan.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
If Slavin is half the player his brother is, I will take back one of the 1,000 mean things I’ve said about Stan.
- ObeseOprah


The Hawks always get the wrong brother.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
Goaltenders are different and they all need longer to figure it out.

For Stutzle -30 points over 50 games is pretty good and at 19 playing against players who are better - why would he go back down to the AHL when he is good enough for the NHL? A sophomore slump is pretty common regardless of how much time someone spent in the AHL.

It is a placeholder league for replacement value players or guys there aren't room on the roster for. If someone has the talent to play in the NHL, and is more effective on the ice then other players on the roster, they should be playing in the NHL getting better against the best.

Tolvanen could be further a head if it wasn't languishing in the AHL.

It is NOT a developmental league like baseball has. It is more similar to the D league in the NBA which is basically reserve players + a few guys who are late bloomers or flew under the radar.

- fattybeef

Nobody cares about some 18 year old with talent notching 30 points on a perennial NHL loser out of the playoffs early. When the real playing for keeps starts and it gets nasty, he gets squat. Good teams don't fear kids and easily neutralize them by being physical and with other forms of intimidation. Only the very best teenagers do much at the NHL level and it is rare. That's why Ottawa winds up where they do every year - draft high; promote to the NHL too soon; player doesn't develop as expected; team doesn't improve; Mummy and Daddy are disappointed; player eventually wants out; rinse and repeat.

And comparing hockey to baseball or roundball is futile. Means nothing.





powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
The Hawks always get the wrong brother.
- mohel

Seabrook, Toews, Hull?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
Seabrook, Toews, Hull?
- powerenforcer


They had both Hulls and both Toewses.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
I’m still looking for the goalposts. Can you give me a hint to where they are?
- paulr



Ask Cody Parkey
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
Sounds to me that King sees the same issues with Strome as everyone sees. He has to work hard away from the puck.
- mohel


Not the only one on this team with that problem.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
Now now, no need for juvenile angst on a hockey board.
- paulr


I find no better place for juvenile angst
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
They had both Hulls and both Toewses.
- mohel


and Hayes, kind of
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
They had both Hulls and both Toewses.
- mohel


The Hillman's
The Lemieux's
The Redmond's
The Dryden's
The Sutter's
The Esposito's
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:25 PM ET
Not the only one on this team with that problem.
- LAHawk


Probably not, but he's now had at least three coaches (at least one of them in AZ prior to trading him for a wing) tell him very similar stuff. Maybe he will listen this time.....
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
The Hillman's
The Lemieux's
The Redmond's
The Dryden's
The Sutter's
The Esposito's

- LAHawk


I'll amend my comment to the past decade. Thinking mostly of Nylander and Strome.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
I find no better place for juvenile angst
- vabeachbear

True enough. And what about you, isn’t angst a great word?

And I’m pretty sure the goalposts move just as Parkey kicks the ball.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Nov 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
Nobody cares about some 18 year old with talent notching 30 points on a perennial NHL loser out of the playoffs early. When the real playing for keeps starts and it gets nasty, he gets squat. Good teams don't fear kids and easily neutralize them by being physical and with other forms of intimidation. Only the very best teenagers do much at the NHL level and it is rare. That's why Ottawa winds up where they do every year - draft high; promote to the NHL too soon; player doesn't develop as expected; team doesn't improve; Mummy and Daddy are disappointed; player eventually wants out; rinse and repeat.

And comparing hockey to baseball or roundball is futile. Means nothing.

- RickJ


No. Bad teams draft poorly and make bad decisions personal wise.

Good teams get lucky with top end talent and bring in the appropriate veterans to solidify the line up.

Better for those kids to toughen up in the NHL and figure out what it takes to be a pro then spin their tires in a league where theyre a top player with out trying.

It is different from Baseball in that there is not anywhere near the same type of developmental structure. There is also not the ability to trade your best player for futures that will most likely turn into something significant. Trading Patrick Kane will not get the return that trading Chris Sale got even though they are players of similar importance.

100% comparable to the NBA in that their overflow league is full of guys who aren't quite good enough and most of the talented players are either ready to go straight away or are broken in coming off the bench with limited time and learning on the job.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:47 PM ET
No. Bad teams draft poorly and make bad decisions personal wise.

Good teams get lucky with top end talent and bring in the appropriate veterans to solidify the line up.

Better for those kids to toughen up in the NHL and figure out what it takes to be a pro then spin their tires in a league where theyre a top player with out trying.

It is different from Baseball in that there is not anywhere near the same type of developmental structure. There is also not the ability to trade your best player for futures that will most likely turn into something significant. Trading Patrick Kane will not get the return that trading Chris Sale got even though they are players of similar importance.

100% comparable to the NBA in that their overflow league is full of guys who aren't quite good enough and most of the talented players are either ready to go straight away or are broken in coming off the bench with limited time and learning on the job.

- fattybeef


What did you think Duncan Keith meant when he said “The NHL isn’t a development league?”
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
What did you think Duncan Keith meant when he said “The NHL isn’t a development league?”
- paulr


No place for a coach to learn how to coach!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
I'll amend my comment to the past decade. Thinking mostly of Nylander and Strome.
- mohel


It's why we got both Joneses (though don't ask Elbows if either are the right one) and both Dachs. Can't go wrong that way. If only Gus had a brother.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
No place for a coach to learn how to coach!
- powerenforcer

Maybe that too.

But I think Keith was referring to young players not having the basic skills and fundamentals to play in the NHL.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Nov 9 @ 4:05 PM ET
What did you think Duncan Keith meant when he said “The NHL isn’t a development league?”
- paulr


He was wrong just like he was wrong about the league mandating a vaccine.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Nov 9 @ 4:06 PM ET
The Hawks always get the wrong brother.
- mohel


Yup. They should have signed Marcel Hossa.
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