ClaudeFather
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I hope Bill knows that days off aren’t appreciated |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I hope Bill knows that days off aren’t appreciated - ClaudeFather
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PT21
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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- MBFlyerfan
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Ftown19125
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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Tuomaala was sent to Finland. So it can stop being asked on a daily basis why he isn’t being sent to juniors. |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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If Provorov can get his offensive game going, he can get to an even higher level. - MJL I would think his offensive game would improve when(if) Ellis comes back. Right now he is probably focused on the defensive side of the puck with Braun as his defense partner.
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Ok…ok…ok…
Every time fans talk about draft picks and who chose them, it’s always to the credit of the general manager at that time. Nobody and I mean nobody is looking into the staff that worked on it together, when we all know it was a collective effort of management, coaches and scouts.
Like this right here is obnoxious and missing the point of the original argument. - SuperSchennBros
Fans are (frank)ing stupid for the most part.
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bird_dog_pa
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Location: PA Joined: 07.05.2011
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Fans are (frank)ing stupid for the most part. - Tomahawk
So let me get this right…
We’re having a conversation of who was drafted when under who’s watch. The best way to do so is under the era of which GM they were drafted but fans are stupid because they didn’t look into each leading staff member who really had a hand in it, when the GM would be the face?
I have news for you, my friend. You made a claim yesterday the Maple Leafs stars are on a tear this season and even went as far as pulling out their stats for the season, without even Acknowledging how these players got their points…which would be by watching the games. Tarvares, Matthews and Marner had big multi point games last week, which finally made their totals respectable. Which is what I would also call not getting the full story. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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So let me get this right…
We’re having a conversation of who was drafted when under who’s watch. The best way to do so is under the era of which GM they were drafted but fans are stupid because they didn’t look into each leading staff member who really had a hand in it, when the GM would be the face?
I have news for you, my friend. You made a claim yesterday the Maple Leafs stars are on a tear this season and even went as far as pulling out their stats for the season, without even Acknowledging how these players got their points…which would be by watching the games. Tarvares, Matthews and Marner had big multi point games last week, which finally made their totals respectable. Which is what I would also call not getting the full story. - SuperSchennBros
Your reading comprehension could use improvement. |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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Looking at the Vegas roster and Patrick isn't even listed as a scratch. Gotta wonder if the migraines are back, but they are staying hush hush about it. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Looking at the Vegas roster and Patrick isn't even listed as a scratch. Gotta wonder if the migraines are back, but they are staying hush hush about it. - Phillywhiteout
glad he's not our headache any more |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Looking at the Vegas roster and Patrick isn't even listed as a scratch. Gotta wonder if the migraines are back, but they are staying hush hush about it. - Phillywhiteout
Cap friendly has him listed on IR, but not LTIR.
And yikes, LV has over 27 million tied up in LTIR.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Looking at the Vegas roster and Patrick isn't even listed as a scratch. Gotta wonder if the migraines are back, but they are staying hush hush about it. - Phillywhiteout
Not sure where your looking or what listed as a scratch means but Patrick is on IR.
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Peter Richards
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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Cap friendly has him listed on IR, but not LTIR.
And yikes, LV has over 27 million tied up in LTIR. - MBFlyerfan
Could be wrong but I thought the first game he missed they were saying shoulder. But then the smoke and mirrors started. |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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Not sure where your looking or what listed as a scratch means but Patrick is on IR. - MJL Was looking at the box score for last night's game. They probably don't list the guys that are on IR/LTIR in the box scores(I didn't know he was on IR). My question remains though. I wonder if the migraines are back. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Even if a GM delegates to the assistant GM for the draft selections, if things don't go well does the team just fire the assistant and not the GM? So with the obvious being the case, the GM is responsible. - MJL
Yes, no one is saying that Clarke at that time was not responsible. Just for the sake of discussion without getting into minutia, there are 4 players on the current roster that Homer had a direct role in drafting: Coots, G, Laughts and Morin. Can we just agree with this and move on? I feel we just all like to argue over tiny facts that in the larger discussion are not relevant. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Ok…ok…ok…
Every time fans talk about draft picks and who chose them, it’s always to the credit of the general manager at that time. Nobody and I mean nobody is looking into the staff that worked on it together, when we all know it was a collective effort of management, coaches and scouts.
Like this right here is obnoxious and missing the point of the original argument. - SuperSchennBros
Agreed ... in the context of the larger or original discussion, Homer had a direct role in drafting G, even though he was not the GM at the time and thus ultimately not responsible for the pick. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Well what they gave up doesn't get you a diff maker. Doesn't make it a good deal mind you. - hello it's me 2050
Agree here, I again will say I don't think the Flyers gave up much for Risto, however I absolutely think he is a big difference maker and its a shame many don't see it. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yes, no one is saying that Clarke at that time was not responsible. Just for the sake of discussion without getting into minutia, there are 4 players on the current roster that Homer had a direct role in drafting: Coots, G, Laughts and Morin. Can we just agree with this and move on? I feel we just all like to argue over tiny facts that in the larger discussion are not relevant. - jd250
What makes you the guy who decides that something is not relevant. If you feel that it's not, that is your opinion and you're welcome to it. You were involved in getting into "minutia". If you don't want to argue over "tiny facts" then simply don't.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Agree here, I again will say I don't think the Flyers gave up much for Risto, however I absolutely think he is a big difference maker and its a shame many don't see it. - jd250
What the Flyers paid for Ristolainen while also considering his contract situation was a significantly large price to play for a player that has been mediocre his entire career. So what is your thinking based on? What evidence is there that he will be a big difference maker. He hasn't been a difference maker in his entire career.
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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What makes you the guy who decides that something is not relevant. If you feel that it's not, that is your opinion and you're welcome to it. You were involved in getting into "minutia". If you don't want to argue over "tiny facts" then simply don't. - MJL
Stupid comment ... just to start yet another argument no doubt!
This has nothing to do with me,. I was stating that in the context of the question: did Homer draft the best players on the current Flyers roster?, its minutia to argue over who was GM at the time G was drafted since regardless, Homer had a direct role in drafting G. I mean, this should not be a controversial statement to reasonable people, but, alas, then there is you! |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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What the Flyers paid for Ristolainen while also considering his contract situation was a significantly large price to play for a player that has been mediocre his entire career. So what is your thinking based on? What evidence is there that he will be a big difference maker. He hasn't been a difference maker in his entire career. - MJL
Bottom line: you don't know what you are talking about! Fact! Not opinion! Your bias against Risto makes it impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you about this topic. |
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Agree here, I again will say I don't think the Flyers gave up much for Risto, however I absolutely think he is a big difference maker and its a shame many don't see it. - jd250
He isnt a diff maker in any way. Come on man.
They did overpay to me. Whether or not they talked to to or pursued other plyers I do not know. There were guys out there available. To me the GM clearly wanted RR and he was going to get him.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Stupid comment ... just to start yet another argument no doubt!
This has nothing to do with me,. I was stating that in the context of the question: did Homer draft the best players on the current Flyers roster?, its minutia to argue over who was GM at the time G was drafted since regardless, Homer had a direct role in drafting G. I mean, this should not be a controversial statement to reasonable people, but, alas, then there is you! - jd250
No, I'll rephrase. You have a choice. You have the power to decide what you involve yourself in. If you don't want to get into debates, arguments or whatever, then simply don't. Exercise some free will and don't. No instead you want to comment and tell other what they shouldn't argue about. In doing so, you're just creating and adding to the minutia. As am I with this post for that matter.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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qBottom line: you don't know what you are talking about! Fact! Not opinion! Your bias against Risto makes it impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you about this topic. - jd250
Bottom line is you have to reply like this because the facts are not on your side. You have a forum here to show and to try and prove that I don't know what I'm talking about. Have at it. Good luck
The facts on Ristolainen are readily available and that along with watching him play is what I base my opinion on.
All of the available information does not support your opinion. In fact you frequently use the adjective "great" to describe his play. So who has the bias?
Your reply here is not an attempt at having an intelligent conversation. How ironic. |
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