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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
If av goes I hope the next coach is trots or suter
- Peter Richards

Quenville or Babcock
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:39 AM ET
Quenville or Babcock
- hello it's me 2050

Would take q. Not Babcock. No thanks.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
Would take q. Not Babcock. No thanks.
- Peter Richards


Not sure Q will ever be an option again in the NHL.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
Would take q. Not Babcock. No thanks.
- Peter Richards

was kidding on both. Hell probably be Lappy. Or tocchet.....
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 5 @ 11:42 AM ET
Not sure Q will ever be an option again in the NHL.
- mickel25

nor should he be
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
To not have the team sleep walk through games. Loose to a depleted penguins team which would have been a way worse score if not for hart. To not play a 0 0 game for over half of the game against a winless echl team in the coyotes. To flat out not show up against calgary. Need I continue?
- Fopa21


The issue is not leadership. It's that they're not good enough. Not in sync as a team. I blame the coaches more than player leadership.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
nor should he be
- Scoob


Right. Forget he was a part of that whole ordeal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
If av goes I hope the next coach is trots or suter
- Peter Richards


Suter? You're joking right?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
The issue is not leadership. It's that they're not good enough. Not in sync as a team. I blame the coaches more than player leadership.
- MJL


So Lavie, Gordon, berube, haskstol and now av?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
So Lavie, Gordon, berube, haskstol and now av?
- Peter Richards


I think like everyone, the Flyers are missing a top defenseman and a 2C. They have major issues with line 2 and the 2nd defense pairing. Coaches can't do anything about injured players but they can make lineup changes. What are they waiting for?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
Suter? You're joking right?
- MJL


I’m pretty sure you know who I’m referring to. Yes I missed a t.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
So Lavie, Gordon, berube, haskstol and now av?
- Peter Richards


Always someone else. Never the guy who has been the “leader of the team” for a decade. Multiple GM’s, multiple line ups, multiple coaches. But it’s not the one common denominator. The guys is a god
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 5 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think like everyone, the Flyers are missing a top defenseman and a 2C. They have major issues with line 2 and the 2nd defense pairing. Coaches can't do anything about injured players but they can make lineup changes. What are they waiting for?
- MJL


The penguins have been without their 1C & 2C which happen to be their two best players yet outplayed the Flyers horrifically. The coyotes are missing everything & will win less than 10 games all season yet outplayed the Flyers. So find a new excuse.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
The penguins have been without their 1C & 2C which happen to be their two best players yet outplayed the Flyers horrifically. The coyotes are missing everything & will win less than 10 games all season yet outplayed the Flyers. So find a new excuse.
- Fopa21


And one of their top pair d men. And second pair d man.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
Suter? You're joking right?
- MJL

Sutter. No why?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 5 @ 12:07 PM ET
flyers next coach has to be ted nolan or bust
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 5 @ 12:09 PM ET
flyers next coach has to be ted nolan or bust
- 2Real

it will 99% be rick tocchet....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
I’m pretty sure you know who I’m referring to. Yes I missed a t.
- Peter Richards


If you're talking about Darryl Sutter. He is currently the coach of the Calgary Flames. Trotz is the coach of the NY Islanders.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Nov 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
Sanheim. $4.675m /year. THAT was a mistake.

NAK needs to stop taking dumb penalties immediately or he's going to find himself demoted to the AHL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
The penguins have been without their 1C & 2C which happen to be their two best players yet outplayed the Flyers horrifically. The coyotes are missing everything & will win less than 10 games all season yet outplayed the Flyers. So find a new excuse.
- Fopa21


I think someone posting that the issue is Claude Giroux is who needs to find a new excuse.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 5 @ 12:23 PM ET
I think someone posting that the issue is Claude Giroux is who needs to find a new excuse.
- MJL


You’re in denial. The fact that you used missing a 2C & 1D as the reason for uninspired efforts after playing a team missing a 1C, 2C, 1D, 3D says all that needs to be said
wbon22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
I am really glad you posted this Bill, after AV's comments I was seriously thinking I had watched the wrong game.

I agree 100% on missing Ellis. I agree with the 2nd line being in a funk and the third line playing with some fire but just not cashing in. The 4th line is growing on me, but slowly.

I am not sure how where who moves when Hayes returns to the lineup. Does Laughton move Brassard move to the 3rd line and Laughton move to the 4th?

I was worried about Ellis and in the injury factor, here's hoping he has it out of his system for the year.

I am seriously wondering how much of the slow starts and seriously uneven second periods are coaching related. How do other teams always manage to get the jump on the Flyers? How is it the long change in the 2nd period doesn't seem to have an impact on them?

Oh well, great stuff as always...
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Nov 5 @ 12:30 PM ET
You’re in denial. The fact that you used missing a 2C & 1D as the reason for uninspired efforts after playing a team missing a 1C, 2C, 1D, 3D says all that needs to be said
- Fopa21


The slow starts and uninspired play has been going on for years. I needs to end
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
You’re in denial. The fact that you used missing a 2C & 1D as the reason for uninspired efforts after playing a team missing a 1C, 2C, 1D, 3D says all that needs to be said
- Fopa21


LOL. I used missing a key center and a top defenseman as issues with the team. Not as a reason for the overall effort of the team.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Nov 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
The slow starts and uninspired play has been going on for years. I needs to end
- bradster


Exactly. & who has been here throughout all of that? It’s time G gets blame instead of the pass he’s consistently got because he puts up points. He’d rather skate around & call guys pigeons than lead the right way.
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