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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
colliton seems pissed off

LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 4 @ 1:48 PM ET

John Dietz
@johndietzdh
Working on a column for tomorrow and found this:

Blackhawks' Marc-Andre Fleury (.886, 3.96) and Kevin Lankinen (.882, 3.56) have the worst save percentages and goals-against averages in the league (minimum 240 minutes).

Thirty-five goalies qualify under those parameters.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
I agree, but


Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Jeremy Colliton certainly seems aware of the Dylan Strome discussion in the press and among the fan base. When I asked him about the balance between grinders and skill players, he was adamant that, "We need four lines that are willing to check."

- LAHawk

Okay then, the strategy is to check your way to a championship, might as well sit Kane.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
I agree, but


Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Jeremy Colliton certainly seems aware of the Dylan Strome discussion in the press and among the fan base. When I asked him about the balance between grinders and skill players, he was adamant that, "We need four lines that are willing to check."

- LAHawk

That’s odd, I was told forwards don’t check?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
Okay then, the strategy is to check your way to a championship, might as well sit Kane.
- Angotti

Well they certainly aren’t winning a championship with Strome as important as he seems to have become.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
Well they certainly aren’t winning a championship with Strome as important as he seems to have become.
- paulr

I think that you and I both know that this team does not have the talent to win a championship, but I do believe that they are much better than their record. I don’t believe that Strome makes much of a difference, but I’d rather have him on the ice than R Johnson. Maybe he shows enough offense to get something back in a trade, because he’s not a long term solution.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
Did you see where Keith scored his first as an Oiler? About a foot an a half away from the goalie. So on a good team, D-men are allowed to do this, but on a bad team not?

Virtually every team has a defenseman that will activate heavily in the offensive zone. When the Hawks were good, they did the exact same thing. Some teams do it better than others (better awareness and communication). The Hawks just happen to be one that doesn't.

- Chunk


I didn't say that. I don't know anything about Edmonton and how they play. I don't understand why Jones is being so so so aggressive up 3-1. I've seen Keith with the Blackhawks do the same exact thing. I have no problem with the dman activating as long as we have possession and there is some kind of awareness be it eye contact, something. Or at least knowing who your d partner is and recognizing their limitations.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think that you and I both know that this team does not have the talent to win a championship, but I do believe that they are much better than their record. I don’t believe that Strome makes much of a difference, but I’d rather have him on the ice than R Johnson. Maybe he shows enough offense to get something back in a trade, because he’s not a long term solution.
- Angotti


He might of been able to help on the power play last night. Isn't his bread and butter passing from behind the net. I would even rather have Borgstrom or Reichel out there.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Nov 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
John Dietz
@johndietzdh
Working on a column for tomorrow and found this:

Blackhawks' Marc-Andre Fleury (.886, 3.96) and Kevin Lankinen (.882, 3.56) have the worst save percentages and goals-against averages in the league (minimum 240 minutes).

Thirty-five goalies qualify under those parameters.

- LAHawk


So if we could rewind to 2 years ago, we'd be at least 500 with Crow and Lehner lol. Lots going on this year with the Covid too in these past few games and getting acclimated to new faces.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
I didn't say that. I don't know anything about Edmonton and how they play. I don't understand why Jones is being so so so aggressive up 3-1. I've seen Keith with the Blackhawks do the same exact thing. I have no problem with the dman activating as long as we have possession and there is some kind of awareness be it eye contact, something. Or at least knowing who your d partner is and recognizing their limitations.
- BetweenTheDots


Sorry, I may have been mistaken. I thought you've been saying for a while that you don't want the D-men activating that deep into the O-zone.

From what I saw on the goal against, the Hawks did have possession when Jones was attacking (and for a moment, the forward was back covering). When the puck came loose, the forward had drifted down on the side away from the puck and then Gus half-pinched and got caught.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
strome is being saved for the Playoffs - makes sense now
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
colliton seems pissed off


- BINGO!


Well you would be too if your team kept making the same stupid mistakes and then admitting what they did wrong in the post-game.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
Jeremy Colliton said Jujhar Khaira and Riley Stillman aren't eligible to travel to Canada because of COVID-19 rules.

So that's the reason behind Nicolas Beaudin call-up.

- LAHawk


Additional context:

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
·
57m
Khaira and Stillman can play in the US but not Canada right now because it's been more than 10 days since they got COVID (which is the NHL requirement) but less than 14 (which is the Canada entry requirement), in my understanding
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
I think that you and I both know that this team does not have the talent to win a championship, but I do believe that they are much better than their record. I don’t believe that Strome makes much of a difference, but I’d rather have him on the ice than R Johnson. Maybe he shows enough offense to get something back in a trade, because he’s not a long term solution.
- Angotti


There is a way to win a few games right now. Coach a trap game. Forecheck one man in and four back. In the defensive zone set up a zone defense and fight tooth and nail for every loose puck. Basically hope for mistakes to capitalize on. Considering the talent level and the younger guys in the line up, is this what we want and is this the system we want to see younger players learning?

When the season began I thought the hawks had a chance at a playoff spot. But it’s become obvious there are too many factors that will prevent this. In the first six or so games Kane didn’t look right, even though he’s definitely turned it around the last two games. Toews hasn’t looked good at all. There isn’t one defenseman who really good defensively. Most of the forwards are weak defensively. There are too many AHL caliber players and too many inexperienced players. The goaltending is mediocre to average. Including Kane there are only five or six players capable of being NHL regulars.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
colliton seems pissed off


- BINGO!


Additionally:

He gave this semi-rant today — and when asked afterward if he was referring to Dylan Strome said, "Among others, yes."
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
Jeremy Colliton said Jujhar Khaira and Riley Stillman aren't eligible to travel to Canada because of COVID-19 rules.

So that's the reason behind Nicolas Beaudin call-up.

- LAHawk

Dear Canada,
Thank you
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
·
16h
A play in five acts:

Dylan Strome: *sits out a bunch of games*

Dylan Strome: *finally gets in, plays well, creates chances*

Dylan Strome: *gets demoted to fourth line with grinder types*

Dylan Strome: *doesn't play well in ill-fitting role*

Dylan Strome: *gets scratched*

- LAHawk

I saw that, good stuff.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
Sorry, I may have been mistaken. I thought you've been saying for a while that you don't want the D-men activating that deep into the O-zone.

From what I saw on the goal against, the Hawks did have possession when Jones was attacking (and for a moment, the forward was back covering). When the puck came loose, the forward had drifted down on the side away from the puck and then Gus half-pinched and got caught.

- Chunk


From what I've seen with Jones I'm okay with him not pinching, he's gotten a couple quality shots but to me doesn't really create a scoring opportunity. The series before it sure didn't look like we had possession and there goes Jones just skating down low and all of a sudden its a 2 on 1 the other way. If this team is going to have anyone pinch it should be 56 since he's not very good at defense but as always what do i know.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
·
16h
A play in five acts:

Dylan Strome: *sits out a bunch of games*

Dylan Strome: *finally gets in, plays well, creates chances*

Dylan Strome: *gets demoted to fourth line with grinder types*

Dylan Strome: *doesn't play well in ill-fitting role*

Dylan Strome: *gets scratched*

- LAHawk


Except that second act is BS...
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:35 PM ET
To weigh in on the great Strome debate, here is his ranking among the 16 Blackhawk forwards in multiple categories (5v5 from Natural Stat Trick):

43.01% Corsi For 11th of 16
50.00% Shots for 4th of 16
100.00% Goals For 1st of 16 (1 goal for, none against)
47.25% xGf 6th of 16
45.61% Scoring chances for 6th of 16
55.56% High danger scoring chances for 4th of 16

So he's far from the worst forward and brings more offence that at least half of the Blackhawk forwards. He's gotten himself into JCs dog house, and I'm not sure how he gets out.

And, he hasn't been on the ice for an even strength goal against.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
I guess the Hawk offer of Strome, Connelly and a 2023 3rd wasn't enough.

#AKF

- Rota's Rooter


Sadly that was Buffalo's exact ask from the Hawks, but Davidson wasn't willing to go higher than Strome, Connelly and a 2023 4th round pick.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:40 PM ET
Seeing as how the Hawks aren’t firing the clown show anytime soon, I wonder who’s available as UFA with all of the newfound money we’ll have from Fleury leaving and all of our raises being given out to guys who had either not earned it or never played a game for us.
If I could pick some talent of the UFA class, I wouldn’t mind splashing some money on:
Giroux
Lindholm
Goudreau
Rakell
Miller
Hertl
Rust
Palat

Most of these guys are exiting their prime or already have (29 is when most start a decline), but that’s the way our silly UFA system is set up.
We’ve seen what rakell, Lindholm, and Miller can do when on a good team. While Hertl and Giroux can actually add something to a top six, Palat plays a great underrated game.

The thing most lacking on this Hawks team besides coaching is talent. Replacement level players like Khaira, Hardman, Carpenter, Murphy, and the like are fine if you’re only playing a few of them on a good team with a solid system. Having them show up on the power play and in 6 on 5 late game situations is a major red flag. We need talent.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
Well you would be too if your team kept making the same stupid mistakes and then admitting what they did wrong in the post-game.
- Chunk


Yeah, fair enough really.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 4 @ 2:46 PM ET
To weigh in on the great Strome debate, here is his ranking among the 16 Blackhawk forwards in multiple categories (5v5 from Natural Stat Trick):

43.01% Corsi For 11th of 16
50.00% Shots for 4th of 16
100.00% Goals For 1st of 16 (1 goal for, none against)
47.25% xGf 6th of 16
45.61% Scoring chances for 6th of 16
55.56% High danger scoring chances for 4th of 16

So he's far from the worst forward and brings more offence that at least half of the Blackhawk forwards. He's gotten himself into JCs dog house, and I'm not sure how he gets out.

And, he hasn't been on the ice for an even strength goal against.

- scottak


Because he is obviously not doing what the coaches are asking of him (as evidenced by JC's recent statements). This is why you don't make decisions based on the stats alone.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
To weigh in on the great Strome debate, here is his ranking among the 16 Blackhawk forwards in multiple categories (5v5 from Natural Stat Trick):

43.01% Corsi For 11th of 16
50.00% Shots for 4th of 16
100.00% Goals For 1st of 16 (1 goal for, none against)
47.25% xGf 6th of 16
45.61% Scoring chances for 6th of 16
55.56% High danger scoring chances for 4th of 16

So he's far from the worst forward and brings more offence that at least half of the Blackhawk forwards. He's gotten himself into JCs dog house, and I'm not sure how he gets out.

And, he hasn't been on the ice for an even strength goal against.

- scottak

Incredible that Strome can get in the doghouse so easily while Colliton is petrified of doing it to Murphy. Murphy has at least two giveaways per game, and has made more stupid decisions than David Rundblad on his worst night. But he’s somehow got an A on his chest, and despite being one of the slowest skaters in the league gets 3 on 3 minutes. Don’t know why I’m whining so much because nobody likes Colliton, but if he’s doghousing Strome (which he should), why can’t he apply that logic to the other dogs on the team?
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