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zedniksghost
Location: MB
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:13 PM ET
What's pathetic is people throwing around "Qanon" references and "rape" references in Fake Outrage outbursts.
Qanon is not real and fake as it gets and everyone knows that and "rape" assumes Criminal Charges!
Tell us when you see either be true, otherwise, sthu and let the story work itself out, whatever it is.

- StargateSG1

i know i said i wouldnt respond, but you seem to be the unique type of coolguy who needs things explained a bit better.
i think the story is already has worked itself out pretty well so far. And just because big manly tough you would


totally beat up whoever made a pass at you at the risk of your own career dreams and future, despite it being drilled into you at an early age that you need to listen to your coaches, and that everyone at home is wanting you to succeed and all that pressure associated with it, doesn't mean everyone else is equipped with such immense fortitude as you. Just because you've decided on a very specific criteria as to what constitutes rape, and apparently are willing to die on that hill, doesnt mean you're right.
Fire up the old google machine and read up on 'rape by coercion'.
This isnt fake outrage. I'm 'for realsies' outraged and disgusted that in a community, much less a modern society we still have moron contrarians like you who try and spark outrage and reactions so they can respond with the equivalent of 'why are you so mad?'
So, to repeat my last post. Be better.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 28 @ 8:20 PM ET
I have to close an AD every 10 seconds as it covers content. There’s gotta be a better way EK?
zedniksghost
Location: MB
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:21 PM ET
You get your fill of virtue from this White Knight post?
- TheGame316


I should just edit out the part about not responding. White knight eh? that's the usual 'insult' people like you and your clone buddy throw out when someone decides to question your self serving or close-minded stances.
Because
obvioiusly the ones worth trying to insult are the people who have some sense of societal duty. What happened to you guys/type of people that made you so mad at folks who want people to be better people?

Seriously, enlighten me. Why get so triggered by people who want everyone to be okay? Does it hurt you that some folks actually care about people?
i'll put it plainly for you and tweedle dumb up there, who im sure is typing frantically about me being 'woke' or some poop.

rape is bad. not believing rape victims is bad. trying to explain away a rape by saying what a rape is by your standards is bad.

I wouldnt think this is something that needs to be explained, but i guess it is.





TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 28 @ 8:23 PM ET
i know i said i wouldnt respond, but you seem to be the unique type of coolguy who needs things explained a bit better.
i think the story is already has worked itself out pretty well so far. And just because big manly tough you would


totally beat up whoever made a pass at you at the risk of your own career dreams and future, despite it being drilled into you at an early age that you need to listen to your coaches, and that everyone at home is wanting you to succeed and all that pressure associated with it, doesn't mean everyone else is equipped with such immense fortitude as you. Just because you've decided on a very specific criteria as to what constitutes rape, and apparently are willing to die on that hill, doesnt mean you're right.
Fire up the old google machine and read up on 'rape by coercion'.
This isnt fake outrage. I'm 'for realsies' outraged and disgusted that in a community, much less a modern society we still have moron contrarians like you who try and spark outrage and reactions so they can respond with the equivalent of 'why are you so mad?'
So, to repeat my last post. Be better.

- zedniksghost


Some of us just like to ask questions

Like why does Beach's version of events regarding the unnamed woman differ from the woman's statement of events?

Did he make his statement thinking that there was no way she could possibly be found 10 years after the fact?

HE says: She never came into the apartment and he walked her back to the elevator and she left

SHE says: They went in, played strip poker, got drunk, got naked, the 2 guys performed oral on her, and afterwards she left both guys naked in the apartment and didn't see Beach leave for at least 45 minutes while she waited for a taxi

Why would Beach leave that part out? What would be the purpose of the woman lying about it? This puts Beach's version of events into question. Aldrich is still a dirtbag, but something doesn't add up here. Did she leave a 20 year old, horned up, drunk guy with another horned up drunk gay guy and *something* happened?

maybe, we'll never know because Beach never went to the cops for a proper criminal investigation

Like I said, some of us just like to ask questions
zedniksghost
Location: MB
Joined: 08.09.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:35 PM ET
Some of us just like to ask questions

Like why does Beach's version of events regarding the unnamed woman differ from the woman's statement of events?

Did he make his statement thinking that there was no way she could possibly be found 10 years after the fact?

HE says: She never came into the apartment and he walked her back to the elevator and she left

SHE says: They went in, played strip poker, got drunk, got naked, the 2 guys performed oral on her, and afterwards she left both guys naked in the apartment and didn't see Beach leave for at least 45 minutes while she waited for a taxi

Why would Beach leave that part out? What would be the purpose of the woman lying about it? This puts Beach's version of events into question. Aldrich is still a dirtbag, but something doesn't add up here. Did she leave a 20 year old, horned up, drunk guy with another horned up drunk gay guy and *something* happened?

maybe, we'll never know because Beach never went to the cops for a proper criminal investigation

Like I said, some of us just like to ask questions

- TheGame316



I get pretty worked up about stuff like this, and know i came on strong. Doesn't mean I dont stand by what i typed, but I could definetly have used more tact in my posts.

Yeah, those are good questions for sure, and the fact they dont match up (the stories) does hurt the credibility of the entire investigation. My main stance/hiccup is that the definition of rape is more ..flexible... maybe not the right word, than just a concrete definition/act. Kind of like the reference to rape by coercion .

legit apologies to anyone who I was extra antagonistic to in my posts, I dont really like getting poopty like that.
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

Oct 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
KEvin Weekes is reporting a coaching change imminent in FL, and Torts as possible replacement LOL
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
I know right!!! Only thing worse would be the Republican Party and what they let Trump get away with.

Pathetic.

- ssullivan28

you spelled joe and hunter wrong


but hey, no mean tweets
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Wut? Too many "assumptions" again?
- StargateSG1



What? You’re accusing me of too many assumptions?

This you bud?:
“Don't be surprised, it's the same "geniuses" that bought into a "noose at the NASCAR garage" crap and the Jussie Smollett hoax and many others without even waiting for investigations to complete.”
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:41 PM ET
OK...
How does a 27 years old video coach "forces" a 20 years old fit hockey player into a bj, if a said 20 years old is against it?
Fact is.. It could have possibly been anything, but it was hardly a "rape".

- StargateSG1


Well, clearly not by physically overpowering him, perhaps he used psychological means? This shouldn’t be that hard to figure out.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:48 PM ET
clearly I don't have a fetish talking to rape victims like you do, you sir are correct.
- jtuzyk

What are you, 16? It’s not a fetish, I just have a lot of female friends, and guess what, if you have 10 female friends , statistically speaking, 3 of them will be rape or at least sexual assault victims by some point in life. So yeah I talk to my friends, some of them have been victimized. I have heard their stories.
I hope you’re dumb enough to talk like this around the women you know so if it’s when it happens to them they know not to come to you for support.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:53 PM ET
I get pretty worked up about stuff like this, and know i came on strong. Doesn't mean I dont stand by what i typed, but I could definetly have used more tact in my posts.

Yeah, those are good questions for sure, and the fact they dont match up (the stories) does hurt the credibility of the entire investigation. My main stance/hiccup is that the definition of rape is more ..flexible... maybe not the right word, than just a concrete definition/act. Kind of like the reference to rape by coercion .

legit apologies to anyone who I was extra antagonistic to in my posts, I dont really like getting poopty like that.

- zedniksghost


Ask women who are raped if it was simply being physically overpowered? You were spot on. You shouldn’t apologize. This thread is full of Douchebags.
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