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Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:46 AM ET
Here is a question since there is conflicting stories with players knowing or not knowing what happen does Kane and towes contracts get terminated or suspended pending further notice. It sounds like towes knew but not Kane plus all the things Kane did and other things the hawks got him out of. Something does not add up on Kane s side of the story.
Davewn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Des Moines, IA
Joined: 12.16.2015

Oct 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
Another thing very worrisome for me is the idea that Q pushed to not react because of "Team Chemistry". This narrative bothers me because I think it points the players in a negative light.

For instance, lets say NONE of the players knew this video coach was doing these things. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere they find out that Coach Brad has been dismissed of his duties. No need to say why, just prosecute him after the season, whatever, but get rid of him. WHY would this hurt chemistry? WHY?

"Hey boys, Coach Brad is gone, lets get ready for the game". WHY would firing a video coach mess with Team Chemistry?

The ONLY reason I can think of is that the players DID know and there was likely various degree of responses to the episode. Responses ranging from outright harassment of Kyle by some players, to ambivalence, to disgust. Had this issue "come to head" for a team who all players were "in the know", there is no question that probably does ruin team chemistry.

- kwolf68


Maybe Aldrich was a really good video coach. Q had coached a long time at that point without scaling the mountain top. He could have viewed shaking up his staff going into the final as a bigger "distraction" than the complaint of some black ace practice body.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Garbage organization!

Toews is a POS coward that needs to be stripped of the captaincy

Kane will continue to also be a scumbag human being.

Kieth is a coward too.

All the meaningless players in between are scumbags too.

Anyone who says otherwise is a garbage human being.

- KINGS67


Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Oct 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
Here’s my $0.02 on how it should have been handled, unfortunately I have terminated some long term employees in my career. Once the incident is reported, you cannot assume that the predator is guilty.
1. You send the accused home, cannot report to work until notified.
2. You prioritize the investigation, with a target of said investigation to be completed within 72 hours.
3. If accused is found guilty after investigation, accused is asked to report to management.
4. Once accused reports, you inform him of investigation results and inform him of employment termination.
5. Security follows him to collect personal belongings and walks him off premises.
6. NHL, NHLPA, and police are notified of results of investigation.
7. Victim is sent to counseling and management should follow up every couple of days with victim.
If the investigation would have been completed in a timely manner, management would have determined that it was not actually harassment, but assault.

- Angotti


What if the investigation is inconclusive? What if Beach’s story, Aldrich’s story, and if there was a 2nd player his story are different or contradictory?

Hindsight is 20/20. But at the very least you would deny any Aldrich/player contact in person/email/text etc until the investigation is concluded. In addition you advise Beach to seek outside counsel.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:51 AM ET
Garbage organization!

Toews is a POS coward that needs to be stripped of the captaincy

Kane will continue to also be a scumbag human being.

Kieth is a coward too.

All the meaningless players in between are scumbags too.

Anyone who says otherwise is a garbage human being.

- KINGS67


Thank you for your thoughts, Slava Voynov.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:51 AM ET

- mohel

You’re part of the problem

GARBAGE ORGANIZATION
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 28 @ 11:51 AM ET
Here is a question since there is conflicting stories with players knowing or not knowing what happen does Kane and towes contracts get terminated or suspended pending further notice. It sounds like towes knew but not Kane plus all the things Kane did and other things the hawks got him out of. Something does not add up on Kane s side of the story.
- Scott1977


According to this article, it appears they could be terminated under the Moral's clause. I am sure that is why all the active players are doing the Sgt, Schultz

https://deschenes4p86.wor...e-national-hockey-league/


Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
You’re part of the problem

GARBAGE ORGANIZATION

- KINGS67


Make sure to say ORGANIZATION as Canadian as possible, so people understand you.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
While I do believe the biggest scumbags in that room were Q and McDonught and Stan was a young inexperienced executive at the time so I am sure it was very intimidating to challenge McCub or Mustache, Stan had a chance to be a great man and stand up for what was right and he failed. YES, I think of all the men in that room he harbors the "least" amount of responsibility, but he said nothing and played in a cover up for 10 years before finally, for whatever reason, appearing to finally come clean.

Stan's apology was also akin to the players, bloviating hot air, passing the buck basically. In his mind maybe he thought "I did enough" by reporting it, but he WAS the GM and he said nothing while the sexual predator was prancing around the ice with the Stanley Cup.

So while this guy or that guy is probably "more responsible" the fact is Bowman could have changed the outcome, all the men in that room could have. None did, they all suck.

- kwolf68



This hasn't been mentioned yet at all...but what makes it all even worse is that the Blackhawks gave Aldrich the option to have an investigation conducted, or to resign...and then they also paid him $22K + a $15k playoff bonus...while of course signing papers in which he agreed to never speak of this incident. Everybody in management was at fault...they waited three weeks until the playoffs were over while letting this guy remain with the team.

Imagine as a parent, a school allowing a sexual predator to remain with the school until the end of the school year had concluded.

Somebody should also immediately talk to the current players and tell them that being a Stan Bowman sympathizer isn't a flattering look at this point in time. No comments might be the best comments unless they are coming out and sending their condolences to Kyle Beach.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
This hasn't been mentioned yet at all...but what makes it all even worse is that the Blackhawks gave Aldrich the option to have an investigation conducted, or to resign...and then they also paid him $22K + a $15k playoff bonus...while of course signing papers in which he agreed to never speak of this incident. Everybody in management was at fault...they waited three weeks until the playoffs were over while letting this guy remain with the team.

Imagine as a parent, a school allowing a sexual predator to remain with the school until the end of the school year had concluded.

Somebody should also immediately talk to the current players and tell them that being a Stan Bowman sympathizer isn't a flattering look at this point in time. No comments might be the best comments unless they are coming out and sending their condolences to Kyle Beach.

- frafra

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Capfriendly has him listed as non-roster. Covid protocol players are listed here
- powerenforcer



Borgstrom is listed on the roster. Read between the lines, a trade is coming.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Oct 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Borgstrom is listed on the roster. Read between the lines, a trade is coming.
- DarthKane


Eichel?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
Thank you for your thoughts, Slava Voynov.
- Tanuki


Yup the King's organization really handled the Baily the mascot situation really well


You forgot the Mike Richards, Jarrod Stoll cocaine ring.

And the owner who was the biggest fraud of them all; Bruce McNall
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
Make sure to say ORGANIZATION as Canadian as possible, so people understand you.
- Tanuki

Make sure there’s enough windows near you so you have enough to lick to satisfy your needs.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
Thank you for your thoughts, Slava Voynov.
- Tanuki

Glad you brought this up.

Kings handled this immediately and he went to jail.

Also he’s no longer in NHL.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Oct 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
Thank you for your thoughts, Slava Voynov.
- Tanuki

And there you go, people in glass houses should not be throwing stones. I’m sure there are many issues going on, or have gone on with other teams that never come out as well. Trolls will be trolls.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
You’re part of the problem

GARBAGE ORGANIZATION

- KINGS67


KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
Yup the King's organization really handled the Baily the mascot situation really well


You forgot the Mike Richards, Jarrod Stoll cocaine ring.

And the owner who was the biggest fraud of them all; Bruce McNall

- LAHawk

Bailey guy was fired.

Richards was terminated and Stoll retired.

But sure compare drug use to sexual assault. Good on you 👍🏻

Kings handled all situations immediately.

This garbage organization tried to hide this haneous act for 10+ years.

powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
This hasn't been mentioned yet at all...but what makes it all even worse is that the Blackhawks gave Aldrich the option to have an investigation conducted, or to resign...and then they also paid him $22K + a $15k playoff bonus...while of course signing papers in which he agreed to never speak of this incident. Everybody in management was at fault...they waited three weeks until the playoffs were over while letting this guy remain with the team.

Imagine as a parent, a school allowing a sexual predator to remain with the school until the end of the school year had concluded.

Somebody should also immediately talk to the current players and tell them that being a Stan Bowman sympathizer isn't a flattering look at this point in time. No comments might be the best comments unless they are coming out and sending their condolences to Kyle Beach.

- frafra


Already happening. The girl in Carolina that was raped by a boy claiming to be a girl. Honestly - it is sad that the NHL story is bigger than this one.

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Garbage organization!

Toews is a POS coward that needs to be stripped of the captaincy

Kane will continue to also be a scumbag human being.

Kieth is a coward too.

All the meaningless players in between are scumbags too.

Anyone who says otherwise is a garbage human being.

- KINGS67

How about giving us an update on Mike Richards and Slava Voynov from the 100% morally correct LA Kings perspective. They would never employ a player who isn't totally virtuous and ethical would they?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
It's funny you mention "doing the right thing". Months ago you wanted to jab paul and I during a disagreement, so you called us boyfriends. It was not that you thought it was true; it was that you were making fun of us for that. You were called out on it, but refused to acknowledge that it was in poor taste.

And here you are, all high end mighty, preaching about what others should have done to shake the tree. Others who were not the perp or designated as the employee responsible for starting the investigation. You are a phony.

- mohel


I also have to point out when GPHawksfan called me and another poster, i believe he said we were soul mates, where was your outrage then? Not a peep from you or anyone else. Since you're talking about phonies, just like the Hawks brass its fine unless it's going to affect me some way. Hypocrite
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
How about giving us an update on Mike Richards and Slava Voynov from the 100% morally correct LA Kings perspective. They would never employ a player who isn't totally virtuous and ethical would they?
- RickJ

Update is. They no longer are employed by the NHL
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Make sure there’s enough windows near you so you have enough to lick to satisfy your needs.
- KINGS67


Interesting. Is this projection on your part? Are you stuck in a booth in an adult video store and are confused? Either way it sounds like you are having anger management and/or cup envy issues. We are here to help.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
Bailey guy was fired.

Richards was terminated and Stoll retired.

But sure compare drug use to sexual assault. Good on you 👍🏻

Kings handled all situations immediately.

This garbage organization tried to hide this haneous act for 10+ years.

- KINGS67


Drew Doughty? And Baily got fired after a King employee convinced the cheerleader to come back, which she did but quit about 3 months after because of unsafe conditions. Kings only settled after she filed a lawsuit.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
Drew Doughty? And Baily got fired after a King employee convinced the cheerleader to come back, which she did but quit about 3 months after because of unsafe conditions. Kings only settled after she filed a lawsuit.
- LAHawk

Dude. You know damn well the hawks organization F&CKED this situation royally.

No one is defending the hawks right now. So why are you?

Kings handled the situations you guys are bringing up. The hawks didn’t. End of story.
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